05-21-2009, 05:25 PM
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taking the ecotec out
well guys... the second day for street legal racing is tomorrow... thinking about taking out the ol' alero.
just looking for some beginner tips... i've never done this before. and looking for what i should be expecting to run.
here is my car.
2002 alero gx.
bone stock except for a slightly clogged cat and a freshly cleaned k&n air filter.
15" tires on some crap tires.
and a stereo w/ subs
i've read tips about launching and stuff... but might be different for the 5-speed and eco's
i'm just basically gonna pop the clutch at 3k, feather the gas until she catchs, floor it and shift at 5500rpm.
thoughts?
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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05-21-2009, 05:42 PM
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Keepin it Real
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16 seconds later you should cross the finish line.
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05-21-2009, 06:14 PM
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Not a ton you can do, slam on the brakes before you get to the strip, that should help loosen up the clogged cat... Then learn to power shift, that is keeping the throttle floored while you shift.
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05-21-2009, 06:34 PM
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Canada's Ghost
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pull the subs and the spare tire out for a quick weight reduction won't do any thing impressive but I guess it helps.
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05-21-2009, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AbHeLlRaZoR
pull the subs and the spare tire out for a quick weight reduction won't do any thing impressive but I guess it helps.
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Think about it. We have a FWD car. If we can get as much weight as possible out of the back, then it will allow the engine to weigh down forward more on the front wheels, instead of leveling the car out/sloping it backwards.
My subs weigh 120 lbs, I dropped 3 tenths when I pulled em out
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05-21-2009, 06:52 PM
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I saw this in the N-body power forum. I thought itd be pretty helpful if I went to the track one day, but I never went. This should be pretty useful.
http://www.nbodypower.com/nbodypower...?p=434#post434
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05-22-2009, 03:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colonel6632
i'm just basically gonna pop the clutch at 3k, feather the gas until she catchs, floor it and shift at 5500rpm.
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Depending on the tires, 3k might be a little on the low side. Just try and avoid the wheel hop. And don't dump the clutch really hard unless you can afford to break stuff, or your tires really suck that bad.
As for shifting... just a touch under 6500 RPM, not 5500. You can get a good feel for the fuel cut right at 6500.
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05-22-2009, 05:26 AM
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cool... thanks guys!
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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05-22-2009, 05:40 AM
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3 grand to dump the clutch might be high, you'll spin up pretty good and risk tranny and axle damage.
Be sure to go AROUND the waterbox. You do not need to wet your tires to do a burnout, it will hurt your launch.
Don't burnout too much. I just set the e-brake and give it gas and spin them up a bit. My back tires cannot hold the car, I drag them. I might smoke them up a little bit, but the more you smoke them the hotter your tranny is going to get and hurt your e.t.
When the lights come down, leave on the 3rd amber. You'll cut a better r.t. this way. The Mitch method is say BRIGHT, BRIGHT, BRIGHT when the lights are comming down and as soon as you get the BR out of your mouth on the 3rd amber, GO!!! Wait for the gas light, you lost.
Take a little bit of air out of the front tires (maybe to 28 psi) and go from there. I run 25 in my fronts. For fun, increase the air in the back tires to as much as they will hold ( a lot of tires will hold 44 psi ) Less rolling resistance. I usually don't increase mine on a points day, just speical events like import days. A good start might be in the high 30's for the rear tires.
I'd convert the PSI number for you, but I don't know how you measure air pressure in Canada
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Last edited by Redog : 05-22-2009 at 05:50 AM.
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05-22-2009, 01:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redog
3 grand to dump the clutch might be high, you'll spin up pretty good and risk tranny and axle damage.
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Not so much with a nearly stock Ecotec, just be smooth with the clutch. It doesn't nearly make that much torque that far down like the 3400 does.
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05-23-2009, 12:46 AM
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ecotec didn't do so well...
best time was 16.6 at 83.4mph i can post some slips later
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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05-23-2009, 12:55 AM
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Stock 4 banger running 16.6.
Why is that bad?
What time did you expect?
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2000 Olds Alero 3400 SFI 14.53 @ 94.93
1985 Olds Delta 88 307 SBO 17.96 @ 76.99
2007 Volvo V50 T5 6M 15.782 @ 89.12
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05-23-2009, 01:06 AM
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Look at the bright side. You are now #2 on aleromods top ten quarter mile times for the eco
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05-23-2009, 04:18 PM
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i unno... lol. but i'm pretty sure if i had more runs i could get it to 16.5... thats what i really wanted to hit
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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05-24-2009, 08:26 AM
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also... we measure air pressure with psi here... well i do. lol.
and i had alot of wheel hop every time... did i give it to much gas off the line?
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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05-24-2009, 09:48 AM
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dump the clutch?? Should of done what Cliff said.
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05-24-2009, 09:50 AM
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tried not to dump the clutch... i think i need more practice... it was alot to take in while at the track.
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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05-25-2009, 03:37 AM
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posted a slip in the best 1/4 mile times.. my best one... you guys dont want to see the other 4.
going again in 2 weeks i think. hoping for 16.5 or 16.4
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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05-25-2009, 09:30 PM
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Yeah, you should be able to get that 60 foot down a little better.
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2011 Saab 9-5 Turbo4 M6
2004 Corvette Convertible M6
1994 Chevy Beretta - Quad4/M5
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05-26-2009, 05:14 AM
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just slow down on the clutch so i get better traction... thats what i'm gonna try next time
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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