03-02-2013, 01:44 AM
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turbo exhaust manifold for 3.4 v6
I am looking for a Turbo exhaust manifold for the 3.4, Some tips on how to turbo the 3.4 would be good as well. I work on my own Alero myself. I only leave the shop to do the alignments and other work that can't be done by yourself in your garage.
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03-02-2013, 01:53 AM
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first off do you have or plan on getting hp tuners and second do you know how to use it
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03-02-2013, 01:56 AM
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and third....use the search button
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03-02-2013, 02:27 AM
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www.milzymotorsports.com can sell you a whole turbo kit or just the manifolds which would cost around $1200ish for a completed uncoated set if you'd like. You'll also need to relocate your car battery to the trunk and tap your oil pan for oil feed lines. A tapped oil pan and battery relocation kit can also be bought from Milzy. You have a lot of research ahead of you and this isn't just something most people just complete within a year. It'll take a long time before everything works the way it should because of how much custom work it takes to turbocharge an N/A 3400. If you actually go through with this, be prepared to spend more than you've budgeted for yourself.
Also what experience do you have working with engines and forced induction? I can tell you right now that it's a stupid idea just to slap a turbo on a 3400 without thinking about any supporting mods.
If you're thinking about making serious horsepower there's a quite a few things that you're going to want to upgrade to get the most out of a turbo build and to make it more reliable such as an intercooler, wastegate, blow-off valve, full exhaust system, tuning software, stronger bottom end, stronger valve train components, ported heads/intakes, a reliable transmission, larger injectors, a bigger fuel pump, an LS1 MAF, 65mm or bigger throttle body, 2 or 3 bar MAP(optional), etc. A reliable turbo build will easily cost you well over $5000.
If you want to go the cheap way and limit yourself to 6-8 PSI of boost then you can do that as well which would require less upgrades, but is a waste of time and won't be much for reliability IMO. Just for a turbo assuming you're buying it new you can be spending somewhere between $500 - $2000. No offense, but when most people talk about turbocharging their cars on this forum it either leads to nothing happening or the project never getting completed.
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03-02-2013, 03:00 AM
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I'm going with the option, leads to nothing happening. I was getting told it was going to be easy. What I have read up online tonight and what your telling me now. I'm going to stay away from doing it myself or maybe at all. I appreciate the posts. I would like to do something to my exhaust, Headers to muffler.
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03-02-2013, 03:16 AM
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I'm going with the option, leads to nothing happening. I was getting told it was going to be easy. What I have read up online tonight and what your telling me now. I'm going to stay away from doing it myself or maybe at all. I appreciate the posts. I would like to do something to my exhaust, Headers to muffler.
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first get an intake....then exhaust....those are the cheaper bolt on power adders....then go with some headers. Headers DEF make a nice difference but having the supporting mods makes them ever better. Then once you have those three things....a nice tune will help A LOT.
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03-02-2013, 03:39 AM
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Okay, When you are talking about "cheaper bolt on power adders" what do you mean by that?
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03-02-2013, 04:45 AM
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Hes talking intake and exhaust as the cheapest bolt on power adders. I would do those then headers, then ported intake manifolds. You would haul ass and still get great fuel economy
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03-02-2013, 06:11 AM
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I have headers, no cat, full exhaust with the f40 6 speed, I can get around 31 mpg if I keep my foot out of it, but that's just hard.
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03-02-2013, 02:57 PM
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I have the intake done. All the rest is stock. I just ordered my new tires Toyo Proxes 4 all season. The exhaust front to back is whats next. I just need help on what to get. Are ported exhaust manifolds worth getting? and is pacesetter a good exhaust system to look at?
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03-02-2013, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Babyblue
I have the intake done. All the rest is stock. I just ordered my new tires Toyo Proxes 4 all season. The exhaust front to back is whats next. I just need help on what to get. Are ported exhaust manifolds worth getting? and is pacesetter a good exhaust system to look at?
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Pacesetter will get ya by....i had it first....sounds good....it's loud....and easy to put on. Just know that if you drive your car year round and in the winters they put a lot of salt down that the pacesetter will rust out within 3-4 years....but it is a good exhaust...sleepy is in love with his. I like the borla better (of course its more) because it's a little quieter and it's stainless. Ported mani's are worth it....but to maximize the power you'll def need a tune after installing them.
I also don't have a cat....it's nice but if you wanna do that and not throw a code you'll need an o2 simulator. They're cheap and easy to install and fix the light problem.
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03-02-2013, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sleepyalero
I have headers, no cat, full exhaust with the f40 6 speed, I can get around 31 mpg if I keep my foot out of it, but that's just hard.
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Sleepy, how do you like that exhaust with no cat? I've got the same setup with a high flow cat. I just wish it was a little louder.
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03-02-2013, 04:14 PM
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with headers its pretty loud inside the car, id have to say with no cat it is a little louder, but i hear nothing but exhaust when i drive (i like it) in neutral the car is a little raspy at high rpm, but in gear it sounds pretty good and throaty. i have videos posted. search sleepys exhaust you should find a thread with 2 vids
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Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
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He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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03-02-2013, 04:38 PM
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Eh, I'll probably keep my cat then..I don't want any more interior drone, or rasp. I have headers also.
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03-02-2013, 04:49 PM
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Where would I be able to get my car tuned? Is anyone capable of doing it by there self?
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03-02-2013, 04:49 PM
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i like the way mine is. like i said in gear it sounds great. just dont rev it in neutral.
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Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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03-02-2013, 04:50 PM
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Where would I be able to get my car tuned? Is anyone capable of doing it by there self?
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you can buy HPTuners, have someone around your area maybe tune it, or go to milzy motorsports in ohio and get it tuned or buy a tuned pcm from milzy or wot-tech.com
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Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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03-02-2013, 05:11 PM
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Where would I be able to get my car tuned? Is anyone capable of doing it by there self?
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Ben from WOT-TECH has been very helpful and patient with me, I'd recommend him to anyone.
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03-02-2013, 05:37 PM
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Say I buy a tuned pcm from milzy or wot-tech. Is it a reliable source? and has anyone got a tuned pcm form there?
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03-02-2013, 05:43 PM
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Say I buy a tuned pcm from milzy or wot-tech. Is it a reliable source? and has anyone got a tuned pcm form there?
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Yes...they're the only two places who make parts for our cars. We wouldn't recommend a place we haven't tried. A LOT of people on here have gone through both of them.
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