Aleromod.com Aleromod.com

Go Back   Aleromod.com > General Help > Common Questions & Troubleshooting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-07-2016, 10:58 PM   #1
AleroCzak
GX Member
 
AleroCzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 44
AleroCzak is on a distinguished road
(signal frequency) Think I screwed somethin' up...

After clearing my corners (many hours and several burns from the heat-gun later I can barely say it was worth it) I decided I needed some amber light bulbs for the signals. I got these LED's from Amazon:
3157
194
Now that I put those in, the signal blinks twice as fast. Anyone have any idea what's causing this? Missing resistance in the circuit? Relay? All thoughts welcome/appreciated.
__________________
"Luna"- 2003 GL 4-Door 3400 sold 2023
"Katie"-2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
AleroCzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2016, 05:51 AM   #2
Redog
Aleromod part owner
 
Redog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Far Northeast Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 18,199
Redog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond reputeRedog has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Redog Send a message via Yahoo to Redog
Typically in older cars putting an LED in as a t/s bulb, means the bulb will flash twice as fast because the car thinks there is a bulb burned out due to the low voltage of an LED bulb.

Maybe somebody else can chime in on a fix for this, but I've never done it just because of the problem you are having
__________________
33% ALEROMOD OWNER!!


2000 Olds Alero 3400 SFI 14.53 @ 94.93
1985 Olds Delta 88 307 SBO 17.96 @ 76.99
2007 Volvo V50 T5 6M 15.782 @ 89.12
www.facebook.com/kb0177
Redog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2016, 08:17 AM   #3
03Alerosil
GL Member
 
03Alerosil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 593
03Alerosil is on a distinguished road
I've heard you need to run individual grounds for LED bulbs to work properly. You may also try adding a resistor inline with the bulb so it takes more voltage for the bulb to work and "tricks" the flasher into working normally.
03Alerosil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2016, 11:51 AM   #4
AleroCzak
GX Member
 
AleroCzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 44
AleroCzak is on a distinguished road
I'll try something. This hyper-flashing is irritating me.
__________________
"Luna"- 2003 GL 4-Door 3400 sold 2023
"Katie"-2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
AleroCzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2016, 01:27 PM   #5
falloutboy
GL Member
 
falloutboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Grafenberg, Germany
Posts: 826
falloutboy is on a distinguished road
U may also look if there is a suitable flasher relay for 90s / 2000 GM cars for retrofitting LED signals.
If not, you have to install resistors. Its not the voltage that makes the signals flash faster, its the missing load in the circuit.
eg. 1 bulb has about 5 Watts, 1 LED may only have the equivalent of 5 Watts (meaning it burns as bright, but only draws maybe 0.5 watts) - hence your flasher relay is sensing "missing bulbs".
__________________
My round trip through the US of A
Thanks
Julian
1979 350SB Chevrolet Camaro Project Thread
1995 Chrysler Stratus LX
1999 3.4L Oldsmobile Alero (resource page)
2002 Nissan Primera with CVT
falloutboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2016, 03:01 PM   #6
jhubbz
⌘ Irish Pride
 
jhubbz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Farmington, MI
Posts: 1,033
jhubbz is on a distinguished road
I used to have some of these 3157 bulbs for front turn signals. They look pretty neat, and didn't have any hyper-blink issues since it's still a regular bulb. I know the link isnt to 3157, but I know they exist somewhere.

The far corner 194 bulb was LED with no issues though. I don't remember if that one blinked or not. I think it was more of a corner marker that stayed constant.
__________________

Done lost my mind
jhubbz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2016, 04:00 PM   #7
tw0123
OSV coming soon!!!!!
 
tw0123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: lindsay, ontario
Posts: 2,375
tw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond reputetw0123 has a reputation beyond repute
You need a resistor to stop the hyper flash... Simple fix, one on each side for left turn and right turn signals
__________________

Misty: 3400, S&S headers, TCE 65mm TB, CAI, 180* TStat, Milzy motor & tranny mount, 18" BOSS 328 & much more... going osv!!
Silver: 2.4L, 5 speed, GAGT seats, front & rear STB's, all red tails, led headlights, Magnaflow muffler, Milzy Motor mount, WAI, Cosmo short shifter; sold n missed
Tequila: 2.4L, GA interior swap, scrapped...
tw0123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2016, 06:50 PM   #8
AleroCzak
GX Member
 
AleroCzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 44
AleroCzak is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the help, I'll try LED relays and see if that fixes it, if not I'll add resistors. We'll see what happens.
__________________
"Luna"- 2003 GL 4-Door 3400 sold 2023
"Katie"-2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
AleroCzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2016, 02:16 AM   #9
Papa Rad17
Premier V.I.P. Member
 
Papa Rad17's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ferdinand Indiana
Posts: 2,742
Papa Rad17 is on a distinguished road
You need a load resistor to salve your problem, or more expensive bulbs, with it built in. I still have a pack of them from my white car- same issue. The car doesn't think there is a bulb there because of how little power the LED uses. It's hyper flashing to tell your bulb is out. The load resistor, when placed in parallel with the bulb, will drop the current to simulate an incandescent bulb.
__________________
3rd alero- 02 GX 2.2 5sp coupe. drove for 3 years 55,000 miles. Sold for a kids first car, and missed
01 Intrigue GX
2016 Chevy SS, Jet Black
Papa Rad17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2016, 05:40 PM   #10
AleroCzak
GX Member
 
AleroCzak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 44
AleroCzak is on a distinguished road
I fixed the problem with these resistors from amazon. They were very easy to install. I took some pictures to highlight where I installed them.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg AleroTSResistor1.jpg (68.0 KB, 17 views)
File Type: jpg AleroTSResistor2.jpg (89.3 KB, 17 views)
__________________
"Luna"- 2003 GL 4-Door 3400 sold 2023
"Katie"-2022 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
AleroCzak is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:35 PM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.