11-17-2011, 11:58 AM
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Engine build
So i want to build up my engine but people keep talking down the Alero telling me it's a waste of time ):! But i say Screw them! I have had a bit of help from Shiwnath in a previous forum but now im really serious about this and need as much help as i can get! I'm wanting to order my CAI tomorrow as soon as i deposit my check. I am also wanting to get the Stage 3 performance kit for WOT-Tech and wonder if i need the HD tranny? Anyway help me out!
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11-17-2011, 12:15 PM
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i speed up for corners
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well depends if you want to boost or not. how much power are u looking to have. Also do you have a big budget to buy all of this stuff because it can add up quickly. you are looking to spend more than 3000 just on the engine build. The stage 3 kit does not include pistons ,rods, crankshaft, piston rings, 65MM TB. If you are just going to build the engine and not boost i would say no to the 4t65eHD tranny.
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11-17-2011, 12:18 PM
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See i was looking at a turbo kit but thats not going to come for a while ( im sure you know why) and i know im looking to spend a lot but happiness doesn't come cheap! and i looked what the kit comes with i just wanna know what else would be recommended?
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11-17-2011, 12:29 PM
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i speed up for corners
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pistons, rods, headers and exhaust, crankshaft, piston rings, billet engine mounts. HP tuners, A/F ratio gauge oil pressure gauge, water temp gauge.
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Alero is gone but not forgotten
1999 black gls coupe R.I.P 130k
1999 auburn mist metallic gls sedan R.I.P
2005 Subaru legacy 2.5i 190k. New rims and tires for summer.
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11-17-2011, 12:29 PM
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mine gets talked down on too saying its a waste of time, idc i love my car and one day she will be a sleeper.... and people will bow to it....
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Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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11-17-2011, 12:30 PM
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2Screwy
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Your stock tranny should be fine for awhile. People don't give the 45 enough credit for what it holds.
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11-17-2011, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JLw7123
well depends if you want to boost or not. how much power are u looking to have. Also do you have a big budget to buy all of this stuff because it can add up quickly. you are looking to spend more than 3000 just on the engine build. The stage 3 kit does not include pistons ,rods, crankshaft, piston rings, 65MM TB. If you are just going to build the engine and not boost i would say no to the 4t65eHD tranny.
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I agree with all of this..except holding out on the trans, with the stage 3 kit (even N/A) your still looking at some good power. I would rather upgrade to the 4t65eHD and have a spare sitting or sell my 4t45e instead of smoking the 45..
4t45e was only made to withstand 205 ft lbs. you will be over that.
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11-17-2011, 12:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sleepyalero
mine gets talked down on too saying its a waste of time, idc i love my car and one day she will be a sleeper.... and people will bow to it....
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Hahaha yes! i wanna make a sleeper but i also want to make something that looks and is fast! So im going with appearance and engine... maybe buy another alero...
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11-17-2011, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellfire5670
Hahaha yes! i wanna make a sleeper but i also want to make something that looks and is fast! So im going with appearance and engine... maybe buy another alero...
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Start with engine first, you'll find that after all the time you spend learning about things and making it happen, you might not want to do any crazy visual modifications. Need to learn to keep it subtle.
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11-17-2011, 12:39 PM
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dont rush it though, do one step at a time haha.
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S. . .L. . . E . . .E. . .P. . .Y. . .IS A TRAITOR--HE GOT BORED SO HE SOLD ME AFTER HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH A RICE ROCKET
Oldsnut is my Hero!
Meet Destiny, shes a 2001 Oldsmobile Alero GLS, F40 6MT swap. (#2 of 3)
2/24/14 - 200,000 miles body/motor. 22,300 on F40.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsnut
He would Plasti Dip his pecker if he could.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tipnitty
A girl touched my Pee Pee. So you can say things are getting pretty serious for me.
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11-17-2011, 12:41 PM
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15.65 @ 87.3 MPH
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A stage 3 kit should be pretty fun.. Thats what I'm going to be aiming for in Spring/Summer.... Along with a 5 speed swap.
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11-17-2011, 12:41 PM
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2Screwy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2
Start with engine first, you'll find that after all the time you spend learning about things and making it happen, you might not want to do any crazy visual modifications. Need to learn to keep it subtle.
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I agree!!
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11-17-2011, 12:43 PM
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looking at the stage 3 kit a realllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyy want it but gonna get the cheaper things first :P
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11-17-2011, 12:50 PM
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636 whp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiwnath
A stage 3 kit should be pretty fun
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I wonder what stage I'm on
stages are silly ^_^
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11-17-2011, 12:54 PM
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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/00-02-04-05-G...item4cf385e52b Ordering this tomorrow if anyone else can't find me something better
I also want a great sound from them inside the fender well how will it sound?
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11-17-2011, 01:00 PM
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15.65 @ 87.3 MPH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2
I wonder what stage I'm on
stages are silly ^_^
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LOL tell that to Ben.. I call it what its called.. All I know is that the Stage number means that it's taken to a whole 'notha level ..(usually)
As for which stage you're on? Currently the one where shit keeps breaking :P
Also Hellfire you should look at the 3400/3500 Hybrid package... Cant argue with 3500 cylinder heads.
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11-17-2011, 01:02 PM
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Yes i was looking at that im not sure what i want! I want HP Hp Hp HP! buttt i want that HP to be put to good use..
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11-17-2011, 01:05 PM
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15.65 @ 87.3 MPH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellfire5670
Yes i was looking at that im not sure what i want! I want HP Hp Hp HP! buttt i want that HP to be put to good use..
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Exactly why you would want 3500 heads/3500 lower intake mani instead of 3400 heads/3400 intake mani... A Better design for better flow.
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11-17-2011, 01:08 PM
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ok what i don't get is the core thing do i send my stuff in? and if i get the 3500 then ill have to pay that extra?
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11-17-2011, 01:08 PM
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i speed up for corners
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well if u want hp build the engine and then boost.
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