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Old 04-15-2008, 08:04 AM   #21
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its a 50/50 chance that the alero has been fixed, but you can never be too sure, by the sounds of it, the previous owner did not take care of it. When i bought my first car i had the tranny go out 3 days after i bought it, spent the next 3 months in/out of the shop with tranny problems, i couldnt do anything about it because it had to many miles, but i asked the owner how could they sell a vehicle if its just gonna brake 3 days later, so they paid for everything, including towing. but i would say just get rid of the alero, thats just my $.02.
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:55 AM   #22
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....guys if these people don't want to deal with you then you have to be aggresive sometimes if you want some type of reconciliation...If one guy doesn't help you then go to the guy above him and so on and so forth. If they don't seem to want to help..then call the BBB you would be amazed at what that can do to solve a problem with these stubborn buisnesses. Once you call and get a case number the BBB handles the rest. I really hate when someone is taken advantage of but this dealer seems to stand behind what they are selling to pay for everything, could see if they would trade it for a different car?
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:58 AM   #23
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....guys if these people don't want to deal with you then you have to be aggresive sometimes if you want some type of reconciliation...If one guy doesn't help you then go to the guy above him and so on and so forth. If they don't seem to want to help..then call the BBB you would be amazed at what that can do to solve a problem with these stubborn buisnesses. Once you call and get a case number the BBB handles the rest. I really hate when someone is taken advantage of but this dealer seems to stand behind what they are selling to pay for everything, could see if they would trade it for a different car?


Amen to that. Better Business Bureau really helps.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:20 PM   #24
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i appretiate everyones post. but some posts are incorrect the lemon law is different between each state yes here in ny my used alero is covered. second the lemon law warranty gets extended every time its in the shop. so yes even after 2 months and 7k im still covered. its just an issue of if this is normal wear and tear rom a neglected previous owner ill keep but i figured ask alero owners if they think these issues are normal or had them with theirs?
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:38 PM   #25
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New York used car lemon law.

(b) If your used car has more than 36,000 miles but less than 80,000 miles, a warranty must be provided for at least 60 days or 3,000 miles, whichever comes first.

4. If your engine, transmission, drive axle, brakes, radiator, steering, alternator, generator, starter, or ignition system (excluding the battery) are defective, the dealer or his agent must repair or, if he so chooses, reimburse you for the reasonable cost of repair.

5. If the same problem cannot be repaired after three or more attempts, you are entitled to return the car and receive a refund of your purchase price or of all payments made under your lease contract, and of sales tax and fees, minus a reasonable allowance for any damage not attributable to normal usage or wear, and, in the case of a lease contract, a cancellation of all further payments you are otherwise required to make under the lease contract.

6. If your car is out of service to repair a problem for a total of fifteen days or more during the warranty period you are entitled to return the car and receive a refund of your purchase price or of all payments made under your lease contract, and of sales tax and fees, minus a reasonable allowance for any damage not attributable to normal usage or wear, and, in the case of a lease contract, a cancellation of all further payments you are otherwise required to make under the lease contract.

7. A dealer may put into the written warranty certain provisions which will prohibit your recovery under certain conditions; however, the dealer may not cause you to waive any rights under this law.

8. A dealer may refuse to refund your purchase price, or the payments made under your lease contract, if the problem does not substantially impair the value of your car, or if the problem is caused by abuse, neglect, or unreasonable modification.

9. If a dealer has established an arbitration procedure, the dealer may refuse to refund your purchase price until you first resort to the procedure. If the dealer does not have an arbitration procedure, you may resort to any remedy provided by law and may be entitled to your attorney's fees if you prevail.

10. As an alternative to the arbitration procedure made available through the dealer you may instead choose to submit your claim to an independent arbitrator, approved by the attorney general. You may have to pay a fee for such an arbitration. Contact your local consumer office or attorney general's office to find out how to arrange for independent arbitration.

11. If any dealer refuses to honor your rights or you are not satisfied by the informal dispute settlement procedure, complain to the New York State Attorney General, Executive Office, Capitol, Albany, N.Y. 12224.


2. A dealer shall have up to thirty days from the date of notice by the consumer that the arbitrator's decision has been accepted to comply with the terms of such decision. Provided, however, that nothing contained in this subdivision shall impose any liability on a dealer where a delay beyond the thirty day period is attributable to a consumer who has requested a particular replacement vehicle or otherwise made compliance impossible within said period.
3. Upon the payment of a prescribed filing fee, a consumer shall have the option of submitting any dispute arising under this section to an alternate arbitration mechanism established pursuant to regulations promulgated hereunder by the attorney general. Upon application of the consumer and payment of the filing fee, the dealer shall submit to such alternate arbitration.

Such alternate arbitration shall be conducted by a professional arbitrator or arbitration firm appointed by or under regulations established by the attorney general. Such mechanism shall ensure the personal objectivity of its arbitrators and the right of each party to present its case, to be in attendance during any presentation made by the other party and to rebut or refute such presentation. In all other respects, such alternate arbitration mechanism shall be governed by article seventy-five of the civil practice law and rules.

The notice required by paragraph one of this subdivision, entitled Used Car Lemon Law Bill of Rights, shall be provided to arbitrators and consumers who seek arbitration under the subdivision.

A dealer shall have thirty days from the date of mailing of a copy of the arbitrator's decision to such a dealer to comply with the terms of such decision. Failure to comply within the thirty day period shall entitle the consumer to recover, in addition to any other recovery to which he may be entitled, a fee of twenty-five dollars for each business day beyond thirty days up to five hundred dollars; provided however, that nothing in this subdivision shall impose any liability on a dealer where a delay beyond the thirty day period is attributable to a consumer who has requested a particular replacement vehicle or otherwise made compliance impossible within said period.

4. In no event shall a consumer who has resorted to an informal dispute settlement procedure be precluded from seeking the rights or remedies available by law.

5. In an action brought to enforce the provisions of this article, the court may award reasonable attorney's fees to a prevailing plaintiff or to a consumer who prevails in any judicial action or proceeding arising out of an arbitration proceeding held pursuant to paragraph three of this subdivision. In the event a prevailing plaintiff is required to retain the services of an attorney to enforce the collection of an award granted pursuant to this section, the court may assess against the dealer reasonable attorney's fees for services rendered to enforce collection of said award.

6. Any action brought pursuant to this article shall be commenced within four years of the date of original delivery of the used motor vehicle to the consumer.

g. Notice of consumer rights. At the time of purchase or lease of a used motor vehicle from a dealer in this state, the dealer shall provide to the consumer a notice, printed in not less than eight point bold face type, entitled "Used Car Lemon Law Bill of Rights". The text of such notice shall be identical with the notice required by paragraph one of subdivision f of this section.


S 199. Penalties. Any person, firm, or corporation violating the provisions of section one hundred ninety-six of this article shall be liable in an action brought on behalf of the people of the state of New York in the sum of one thousand dollars for each of such violations.
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I though each individual state has their own interpretation of lemon laws and follow them accordingly so what happens in maryland isnt the same thing the state of new york does for a car sold in their state
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Old 04-16-2008, 10:07 PM   #27
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Sorry to say, but it sounds like you got taken on this car. At 56K no car should have this many problems. It sounds like this car had the crap beat outta it prior to you're ownership.

Some things I could see, but not a list like that.

I doubt you have a lemon laws case, that's typically for new cars.

I'd investage this lot. See what kind of cars they have been selling try calling the BBB in NY
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