MSD Coils. - Page 2

[ion] C2 · 08-15-2010, 09:55 PM

Duralast lifetime warranty stuff yo, 7mm.

NGK TR6 (4177)

BlackJack · 08-15-2010, 09:57 PM

right on, just comparing....thanks.

robalero · 08-15-2010, 10:18 PM

I like the setup, I thought they came with coils and boots how did you switch it to wires?

[ion] C2 · 08-15-2010, 10:22 PM

By cutting the existing coils off the ICM wires and extending them to the MSD coils.

guiguilandry · 08-16-2010, 12:05 AM

Cool so we need a how to ASAP... or at least a little chart for the pluging of the wires to the new coils and what spark plugs wires did you used ???

Alerojester · 08-16-2010, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2

Duralast lifetime warranty stuff yo, 7mm.

NGK TR6 (4177)

ok we know what size but for what i think is what we are all wondering cause that would probably be a good thing to know cause now you OBVIOUSLY have alot of our attention cause now im trying to con the wife into letting me do it.

NoSweat83 · 08-16-2010, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2

Duralast lifetime warranty stuff yo, 7mm.

NGK TR6 (4177)

1. Why not MSD wires?
2. Why 7mm and not 8mm?

[ion] C2 · 08-16-2010, 08:01 AM

Because there clearly isn't a need for it if I have perfectly strong spark at 18 psi of aiflow from a GT3076R lol

Also, the wires for a 2.2L LN2 Cavalier are what I used.

I'll probably do a writeup later today with pictures.

NoSweat83 · 08-16-2010, 12:58 PM

Sounds good.

Alerojester · 08-16-2010, 01:04 PM

that's a good thing Ion cause we all love write ups on how to do something

robalero · 08-16-2010, 04:09 PM

yes please do a write up, its just one of those things I now officially wanna do since it will match the color of my car ( aside from being really functional )

colonel6632 · 08-17-2010, 10:38 PM

any big differences it would make on a 2.2 ecotec with mostly stock. perhaps mostly a hotter spark so maybe better mpg? better idling? anything really at all?

Oldsnut · 08-17-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by robalero

yes please do a write up, its just one of those things I now officially wanna do since it will match the color of my car ( aside from being really functional )

Rob it is good to see that your fitting in the Alero community. just my .02

robalero · 08-18-2010, 05:52 PM

hey I figured if you could make it here so could I! lol

spyhunter · 08-19-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackJack

spy, throw your 2 cents in on this:

http://www.kennebell.net/accessories...oostaspark.htm

and also, what wires/plugs are you guys using?

I haven't had to need such a device, so I'm just blinking and staring blankly at it. From the Honda guys to the DSM guys to the Evo guys, nobody I know is actually running external ignition boxes to boost their spark, and neither have I.

For all the power I made, I used just MSD coils, and stock 2.2L spark plug wires from a late 90s Cavalier. The car ran better than new with all the whiny turbo stuff in the mix.

Until you make sure what you have is running top notch no reason to add another box to the mix, there are also solutions where you don't need to add a box such as that either.

spyhunter · 08-19-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by guiguilandry

Cool so we need a how to ASAP... or at least a little chart for the pluging of the wires to the new coils and what spark plugs wires did you used ???

The how to, is the very FIRST post of this thread.

You can get away w/ custom cut to fit V8 or V6 MSD/Accel whatever wires, or you can use 2.2L cavalier wires, or you can use wires from a mitsubishi eclipse. You have options.

spyhunter · 08-19-2010, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by colonel6632

any big differences it would make on a 2.2 ecotec with mostly stock. perhaps mostly a hotter spark so maybe better mpg? better idling? anything really at all?

The idea of going w/ the MSD coils was brainstormed i believe on jbody.org because the quad (2.4) guys have issues w/ misfires, lost spark, etc, etc due to the ignition coils, poor insulation, etc, etc, etc, and being right on top and in between the engine. The heat around the head and the cam towers really jacked things up real well.

Now w/ this lil mod when done properly, VIOLA! Things turn out smoother, better, nicer, happier.

When I first did this 2 years ago or so... it was amazzzzzzing.

[ion] C2 · 08-19-2010, 01:03 AM

It is amazing, I can't believe I didn't do it sooner.

Engine > LD9 2.4L Twin Cam > Ignition
How-To: Install MSD Coils

widbyj · 08-19-2010, 02:09 AM

You've convinced me to do this also. I've noticed what seems to be a 'loss of spark' under boost that had me chasing low fuel issues, maybe needlessly. I don't know enough to have an opinion about the multi-spark advantages but I can agree with a stronger spark making more consistent power. Similar to my 73 Olds where the best upgrade ever was to an HEI distributor...

colonel6632 · 08-19-2010, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by spyhunter

The idea of going w/ the MSD coils was brainstormed i believe on jbody.org because the quad (2.4) guys have issues w/ misfires, lost spark, etc, etc due to the ignition coils, poor insulation, etc, etc, etc, and being right on top and in between the engine. The heat around the head and the cam towers really jacked things up real well.

Now w/ this lil mod when done properly, VIOLA! Things turn out smoother, better, nicer, happier.

When I first did this 2 years ago or so... it was amazzzzzzing.

well us 2.2 guys have the same thing, but after looking into it, it's hard to do on the ecotec... soooo... i'll just not do it for my basically stock car. although it does feel bogged down on instant throttle sometimes