trouble removing the front brake - Page 2

cherrington17 · 11-05-2008, 02:08 PM

that sucks.

CactusWill · 11-05-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat

call this: I accidentally tightened the brake line bolt and the head broke off. (this morning before I had a lot of light, so I was just feeling around) and now I'm letting my brake fluid drip into a cup so I can take the caliper back off again to fix it.

10 ft lbs is the MAX for that bolt... gotta be easy on those

AlbinoMonkeyRat · 11-05-2008, 02:27 PM

now you tell me. lol

AlbinoMonkeyRat · 11-06-2008, 01:03 AM

well, now I am waiting for a stealership to get in the banjo bolt...might take a few days. so in the meantime, my Alero rides a tripod in the driveway while I cruise in granny's Charger.

cherrington17 · 11-06-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CactusWill

10 ft lbs is the MAX for that bolt... gotta be easy on those

really? mine was so hard to get back on, i broke the socket wrench. i was retightening the thing with a breakerbar, since i didn't have the arm strength to get it to tighten it enough to stop it from leaking...

... and yes, i can do AT LEAST 10ftlbs my hand.

bolt didn't break either.

CactusWill · 11-06-2008, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17

really? mine was so hard to get back on, i broke the socket wrench. i was retightening the thing with a breakerbar, since i didn't have the arm strength to get it to tighten it enough to stop it from leaking...

... and yes, i can do AT LEAST 10ftlbs my hand.

bolt didn't break either.

Sounds like the threads weren't lining up.... Its alot easier to crossthread or damage the threads than it is to break the bolt

zzyzzx · 11-06-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat

well, now I am waiting for a stealership to get in the banjo bolt...might take a few days. so in the meantime, my Alero rides a tripod in the driveway while I cruise in granny's Charger.

You are having a dealership replace your banjo bolt? Or were you unable to find a replacement banjo bolt at a regular auot parts store?

I'm thinking that a rebuilt caliper put in yourself would be cheaper than taking it to the dealer.

Or just remove the caliper then dril out the existign banjo bolt and retap.

billytheman1188 · 11-06-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CactusWill

Sounds like the threads weren't lining up.... Its alot easier to crossthread or damage the threads than it is to break the bolt

tell me about it.....i stripped my bleeder bolt on my back driver side caliper.

the problem was that i was using a smaller ratchet and i wasnt getting enough torque...... once i switched to the bigger ratchet, they came off nice and easy.

AlbinoMonkeyRat · 11-07-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by zzyzzx

You are having a dealership replace your banjo bolt? Or were you unable to find a replacement banjo bolt at a regular auot parts store?

I'm thinking that a rebuilt caliper put in yourself would be cheaper than taking it to the dealer.

Or just remove the caliper then dril out the existign banjo bolt and retap.

oh, my car is in my driveway. none of the autoparts stores have the right size banjo bolt. they all have coarse threaded and mine is fine threaded. I already have the broken one out, that's how I know. I'm just waiting for the part to come in at the dealer so I can do the work myself. (the stores can't order the part...they don't carry the right size)

Cliff8928 · 11-07-2008, 02:25 AM

Yep, it makes no sense why they wouldn't carry the M10x1.0 banjo bolt but they don't. Many cars with aluminum calipers require that size.

zzyzzx · 11-07-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff8928

Yep, it makes no sense why they wouldn't carry the M10x1.0 banjo bolt but they don't. Many cars with aluminum calipers require that size.

Let me take a guess here. They have plenty of banjo bolts in stock, but none are metric. Am I right?

zzyzzx · 11-07-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff8928

Yep, it makes no sense why they wouldn't carry the M10x1.0 banjo bolt but they don't. Many cars with aluminum calipers require that size.

From NAPA's webpage:

http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPage...+Mounting+Bolt

Brake Hose Banjo or Mounting Bolt
Item#: UP 83166
Attributes:
Features & Benefits: Coated to Resist Corrosion & Prevent Rust.
Product Features: Designed To Match O.E. Fit
Form & Function.
Overall Length: 1.15"
Thread Size:M10 x 1"

Doesn't give a price though. Just says:
Available at NAPA stores. This part can only be purchased from your local NAPA AUTO PARTS Store.

Did you even try NAPA? They seem to have a whole lot more than everyone else, and their other banjo bolts range from $3-$4.70

zzyzzx · 11-07-2008, 10:18 AM

From autozone's webpage:

Motormite / Banjo Bolt for a 1999 Oldsmobile Alero

About this product:
Part Number: 313940
Weight: 0.04 lbs.
Pricing: $1.99

Availability:
Store: Normally stocked at your local store.

zzyzzx · 11-07-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat

I already have the broken one out, that's how I know.

Your lucky to have gotten the old one out! How did you do that?

One time I broke off the head of a bolt it was a valve cover bolt that had been soaking in leaking oil, and the top end was sufficiently rough enough for me to just stick a flat head screwdriver in it and turn it to get the bolt out. The last time I broke one, it was on a lower radiator support and it was completely rusted out. I had to drill and tap it. That took a very long time.

zzyzzx · 11-07-2008, 10:27 AM

Now that I've had more time to think about it, as long as you are going through all the trouble to replace the bolt AND you are willing to wait several days for new bolts, did yu at least think about getting some of those replacement bolts with the check valve in them so that you can bleed your brakes yourself?

billytheman1188 · 11-07-2008, 01:35 PM

^^^^ Thats only for the bleeder bolt.

zzyzzx · 11-07-2008, 02:36 PM

Isn't a banjo bolt a bleeder bolt?

AlbinoMonkeyRat · 11-07-2008, 05:36 PM

Banjo bolt is just a bolt with the channel in it to let brake fluid pass through. bleeder bolts have a moving part so you can bleed the brake line without taking it off...kinda like a valve.

AlbinoMonkeyRat · 11-07-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by zzyzzx

Your lucky to have gotten the old one out! How did you do that?

One time I broke off the head of a bolt it was a valve cover bolt that had been soaking in leaking oil, and the top end was sufficiently rough enough for me to just stick a flat head screwdriver in it and turn it to get the bolt out. The last time I broke one, it was on a lower radiator support and it was completely rusted out. I had to drill and tap it. That took a very long time.

reverse direction drill bits that are designed for just this very thing. I was lucky...and it was pretty easy too. just tap in the bit with a couple taps of the hammer and use a wrench to twist it out. hardly any elbow grease to it...more like knuckle grease lol.

Cliff8928 · 11-11-2008, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zzyzzx

From autozone's webpage:

Motormite / Banjo Bolt for a 1999 Oldsmobile Alero

About this product:
Part Number: 313940
Weight: 0.04 lbs.
Pricing: $1.99

Availability:
Store: Normally stocked at your local store.

Crazy, the one I work at doesn't (or didn't) have them when I needed them.

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Originally Posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat

Banjo bolt is just a bolt with the channel in it to let brake fluid pass through. bleeder bolts have a moving part so you can bleed the brake line without taking it off...kinda like a valve.

No moving parts on a bleeder screw unless it's a speed bleeder.