08-09-2011, 08:30 PM
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I Have ONE NUT
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: North Mankato, MN
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Hope the run goes well.
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08-09-2011, 08:49 PM
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GL Member
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Location: Illinois
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My guess(es) based on 3 scenario's
1- you catch traction and the run goes awesome 12.59
2- you spin the wheels but it finally grips after spinning for a little 13.02
3- in order to get down the track you have to cross fire pits and fight a dragon while in the car...or something fails in the car 13.4 ![:LOL:](images/smilies/lol.gif)
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08-09-2011, 08:54 PM
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GL Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: nc
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hey guys am new here and hope to see how u did on ur run
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08-09-2011, 08:58 PM
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636 whp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,895
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris2000
My guess(es) based on 3 scenario's
1- you catch traction and the run goes awesome 12.59
2- you spin the wheels but it finally grips after spinning for a little 13.02
3- in order to get down the track you have to cross fire pits and fight a dragon while in the car...or something fails in the car 13.4 ![:LOL:](images/smilies/lol.gif)
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i'd say those are reasonably accurate
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08-09-2011, 11:27 PM
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Gone
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris2000
My guess(es) based on 3 scenario's
1- you catch traction and the run goes awesome 12.59
2- you spin the wheels but it finally grips after spinning for a little 13.02
3- in order to get down the track you have to cross fire pits and fight a dragon while in the car...or something fails in the car 13.4 ![:LOL:](images/smilies/lol.gif)
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He gets someone other than his fat ass to drive the car 12.05
Pulls a BJ and limps it over the line missing a cylinder 14.2
It explodes in a giant fiery ball, that is visible... from space. -0.02
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08-10-2011, 06:43 PM
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#26
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636 whp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,895
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Timeslips
Slicks
13.95 @ 102.3
13.99 @ 102.1
Worn Street Tires
13.56 @ 105.2
Observations
I think I flashed the wrong tune (old one) back when I changed my fan settings before sending my HPTuners to sleepyalero so he can use it for a bit. Sucked not being able to log and investigate exactly what is going on with fueling and spark advance and such down the track. I haven't tuned it since last October, and apparently things changed. I was just able to see a glimpse of the fueling status looking at my gauges periodically down the track. - I suck at launching/turbo lag is bad. Seems to take forever then WHAM power comes on.
- ran way richer than it should, and AFR not consistent (10.0 - 11.0).
- bounces off rev limiter on the 1-2 shift causing lots of delay.
- exhaust cutout is closed.
- my tune is made for 100 octane. On 110 my AFR should be like 12.0 or so. tune is also way off.
SUMMARY: Need to retune for either 100 or 110. Preferably dyno tuned, by someone who is better than me. Slicks are not needed it seems. No traction issues.
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08-10-2011, 09:40 PM
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Aleromod part owner
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Far Northeast Philadelphia, PA
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Could be the driver ![Rolleyes2](images/smilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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08-10-2011, 09:43 PM
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Captain Funpark
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Vincennes, IN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redog
Could be the driver ![Rolleyes2](images/smilies/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
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![:LOL:](images/smilies/lol.gif)
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08-10-2011, 09:46 PM
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636 whp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,895
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Ya. Holding at 2200 RPM the car gets to 0 boost/vacuum, it doesn't build boost sitting there. If it does it moves forward, brakes can't hold it.
Next time I go out I'll be more ready than just thinking of going to the track with a fuel I've never used before and an outdated tune and exhaust cutout closed.
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08-10-2011, 10:14 PM
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GLS member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Fort Knox area, KY
Posts: 2,120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2
Timeslips
Slicks
13.95 @ 102.3
13.99 @ 102.1
Worn Street Tires
13.56 @ 105.2
Observations
I think I flashed the wrong tune (old one) back when I changed my fan settings before sending my HPTuners to sleepyalero so he can use it for a bit. Sucked not being able to log and investigate exactly what is going on with fueling and spark advance and such down the track. I haven't tuned it since last October, and apparently things changed. I was just able to see a glimpse of the fueling status looking at my gauges periodically down the track. - I suck at launching/turbo lag is bad. Seems to take forever then WHAM power comes on.
- ran way richer than it should, and AFR not consistent (10.0 - 11.0).
- bounces off rev limiter on the 1-2 shift causing lots of delay.
- exhaust cutout is closed.
- my tune is made for 100 octane. On 110 my AFR should be like 12.0 or so. tune is also way off.
SUMMARY: Need to retune for either 100 or 110. Preferably dyno tuned, by someone who is better than me. Slicks are not needed it seems. No traction issues.
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You're right, must be the wrong tune in there at this point. Otherwise, this defies all logic.
Did you say you ran leaded fuel? If so, I wonder if that could affect an O2 sensor. Hitting the rev limiter kills the runs right there.
But I disagree on the tires, with that beast tuned right, you'll need slicks.
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08-10-2011, 11:22 PM
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GL Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Illinois
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Isn't your car auto too. Look I weigh 130 and i'm good at driving so let me run your car once and if i beat your time its no cost to me for any wear and tear i cause on your car when i hit 108 down the 1/4. But if your time is better than mine ill give you $50. P.s. ive never been to a track. ![Cool](http://www.aleromod.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
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08-11-2011, 06:35 AM
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GL Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Torrington, CT
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Alot to learn.. Where at the slips I want to see 60 ft and all that. GL next time
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08-11-2011, 07:35 AM
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636 whp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,895
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2.3 60' ... like I said car moves out really slow off the line, once it hits 4400 it just pushes you in the seat, at that point it makes 18 psi. Guy next to me took off way faster, and I caught up and passed him to run a faster time than him. I'll post slips when I get home.
I need to practice launching, and I need to tune it. 10.0 AFR is not ideal.
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08-11-2011, 12:25 PM
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Premier V.I.P. Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ferdinand Indiana
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Hmmm... This is just all the more reason for you to come to terre haute on the 19th. I want to see it! Even if you don't do time trials.
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08-11-2011, 12:52 PM
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636 whp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,895
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It would really suck to break something while that far from home.
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08-11-2011, 03:44 PM
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GLS member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 3,201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cherrington17
He gets someone other than his fat ass to drive the car 12.05
Pulls a BJ and limps it over the line missing a cylinder 14.2
It explodes in a giant fiery ball, that is visible... from space. -0.02
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You get laid.. 00.00
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08-11-2011, 04:51 PM
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Gone
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
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Nice attempt, but poor delivery. Try harder next time.
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08-11-2011, 05:03 PM
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GL Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Torrington, CT
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First mistake was the huge slicks...I know they were borrowed so it not like you had much choice. They are to much for your hp, and plus the F/D ratio changed on you not helping in acceleration. Make me believe thats why you even had the rev bounce in first gear, even tho im not familiar tuning auto since im standard. I myself would go smaller diameter than stock and improve acceleration.
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08-11-2011, 07:02 PM
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636 whp
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ
Posts: 11,895
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It bounces on my normal tires. It's something I tuned out. My car makes a lot of power in the high end and the revs move real fast, so the limiter and shift pressure/timing need to be adjusted so it happens before it hits limit.
I'm aware of the gearing change with the 0.7" increase in overall diameter.
With a proper tune on the right fuel, I might need the slicks. Being an auto I can only launch at a certain RPM..
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08-11-2011, 07:36 PM
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#40
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A-mod Pirate
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Big Bad Cali
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx
You get laid.. 00.00
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go manual! eff automatic
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