04-24-2016, 09:45 PM
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Found another possibility for the front brake upgrade.
Over on the Blazer forum, I've read where some of the people there have the Corvette brake upgrade on the front of the S-10 Blazer. There's also someone there with an F body kit on the front. Since the Corvette brake upgrade is compatible with both the N body and the S-10 Blazer, that tells me that the Blazer and N body brakes are interchangeable. The advantage: two piston calipers. Just looked up prices, and for me to get a loaded setup including rotors including shipping, is just under $240. The vehicle I searched under was the 1999 Olds Bravada. The part numbers are the same for the Blazer, obviously.
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1999 Alero GLS, 3400, 4T45E, current mods: WAI with Spectre HPR cone filter, VVME 55w 8000k HID kit
275,000 miles as of 05-14-2015 at 1559 est (3:59 pm)
Planned mods: F body front brake upgrade, ported UIM, LX9 top swap, ported exhaust mans, performance cam. Eventually, turbo or supercharger.
1999 Olds Bravada, 4300 Vortec v6, 4L60E. Current mods (on it when I bought it):
75mm ported throttle body, NGK stage 1 plugs, stage 1 heads.
Planned mods: injector upgrade, exhaust headers
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04-25-2016, 05:48 AM
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Always important what kind of rim do you have to have for this, as I am still bound to my 15" OE wheels
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04-25-2016, 11:53 AM
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My 99 Bravada has 15" wheels.
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1999 Alero GLS, 3400, 4T45E, current mods: WAI with Spectre HPR cone filter, VVME 55w 8000k HID kit
275,000 miles as of 05-14-2015 at 1559 est (3:59 pm)
Planned mods: F body front brake upgrade, ported UIM, LX9 top swap, ported exhaust mans, performance cam. Eventually, turbo or supercharger.
1999 Olds Bravada, 4300 Vortec v6, 4L60E. Current mods (on it when I bought it):
75mm ported throttle body, NGK stage 1 plugs, stage 1 heads.
Planned mods: injector upgrade, exhaust headers
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06-29-2016, 11:51 AM
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I want to upgrade my brakes. Has anyone gone through with installing GP GXP front brakes? That is what I would be interested in doing.
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06-30-2016, 04:09 AM
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I dont believe I saw it said for certain.
My question I never saw specifically answered.-
When using the Camaro set up 16" wheel MINIMUM? It would not clear my factory 15" wheels?- Can anyone say for certain?
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07-02-2016, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa Rad17
I dont believe I saw it said for certain.
My question I never saw specifically answered.-
When using the Camaro set up 16" wheel MINIMUM? It would not clear my factory 15" wheels?- Can anyone say for certain?
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For certain you will need 16" wheels. Firebirds and Camaro's that run 15's on the front are the small drag racing rims. Even then you need to make sure there will be clearance with the 16" wheels as some will not fit due to their bulky design.
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07-05-2016, 07:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa Rad17
I dont believe I saw it said for certain.
My question I never saw specifically answered.-
When using the Camaro set up 16" wheel MINIMUM? It would not clear my factory 15" wheels?- Can anyone say for certain?
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It won't, even the stock 16" wheels are a close fit
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07-05-2016, 01:43 PM
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shoot. I'll have to see how things go then. If *cough* C2 *cough* hadn't wimped out and brought wheels to homecoming there would no question about this.
The camaro calipers are dual piston correct?
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06-05-2024, 11:26 PM
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Did the F-body front brake swap using the Rock Auto parts described in this thread simply because i could not find Alero calipers/rotors/pads locally. Never thought i would see the day that the local parts stores would not have everything for the brakes on these cars in stock.
Couple of other things that i learned..
The F-body brakes fit under the stock 16in. spoked aluminum wheels.
Check the new caliper's mating surfaces for the crush washer closely. Both of ours were damaged. Had to return them for another pair.
The Alero banjo bolts are 10mm x 1.5 and the F-body's are 10mm x 1.0
You will have to bend the ABS sensor harness brackets away from the F-body rotors. On ours, it looked like there was enough clearance....but they would touch the rotors when the car was going around a hard turn.
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06-06-2024, 01:32 AM
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Good tips. My big brakes from the CTS-V are working well, but a tad unnecessary. Lots of weight, difficult to fit wheels, but definitely increased heat capacity which is good for safety.
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06-08-2024, 11:05 PM
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Extra heat capacity is a benefit that did not cross my mind. Was only thinking of parts availability and maybe a little more life expectancy from the larger pads/rotors. The swap did not really change the way the car stops that i can tell. Maybe a little less pedal effort is required. Still the same size and style of tires as stock so i guess it would activate the ABS and panic stop in the same fashion as the factory ones did? This is the first time i have ever did this to a vehicle so i did not know what to expect but it seems to have not made a change to the braking when driving it normally.
Going to the extreme like you did with better/wider tires and CTS-V brakes did you notice a big difference? Did you keep your stock master cylinder?
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06-09-2024, 02:15 PM
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No difference. Stock master cylinder was fine for the piston size.
If your car can lock the brakes and engage ABS before the upgrade, the only thing a big brake kit does is increase your overheating safety margin and likely reduce wear due to larger components.
I watched a ton of very informative videos on the topic, and they compared econobox braking versus supercar braking etc. and they both stopped in the same distance. The difference was the supercar one can go hard on track days and mountain roads without fading.
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06-10-2024, 12:07 AM
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Yep, all of that makes sense now. It's weird how intuition works though. Part of me was thinking that the larger brakes would make a noticeable difference with the braking and when they didn't i was honestly disappointed with that side of things lol. Never looked into the actual science and testing behind it though. Extra heat capacity is def. a good thing and ran DOT 4 through the whole system as well so maybe that will help if the car is ever in a situation where the brakes have to take some abuse.
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