Aleromod.com Aleromod.com

Go Back   Aleromod.com > General Help > How-To Archive & FAQ

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-02-2005, 06:38 PM   #1
cherrington17
Gone
 
cherrington17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
cherrington17 has a spectacular aura aboutcherrington17 has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to cherrington17
Since i've had several requests to explain this, i'll write up an easy "how to" for wiring Led's. This will just be how to run power to get them lit.
Not how to run them in parallel for specific voltages.
(if someone wants to add that part to the how to, feel free to do so. just please use pics for every step. make it as easy as possible! )

The model i'm doing, i'm using a 3 Volt power supply. Obviously automotive applications have 12 Volt. This is why most leds are sold with resistors. you need to solder that resistor to either of the led terminals and that makes it work on a 12 Volt power, in series.

Step One.

In the picture, i have what is called a "terminal block" it has 4 terminals, 2 screws on each one.
1|2|3|4
5|6|7|8

The metal piece in the back left is connecting screws 1 and 2. This gives them both the same voltage. So as pictured, screws 1;2;5;6 will all have the same voltage. As with 3;4 and 7;8. This is NOT true for screws 4;7 or 3;8. They are not connected, so they will not have the same voltage.

I have connected the + lead of the led onto screw 6 and the negative of the Led onto screw 7
__________________
Frequently Asked Questions
...You only stop learning when your dead...
cherrington17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2005, 06:42 PM   #2
Eh_nigma
the "Why Not?" Guy
 
Eh_nigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: CFB Shilo, Manitoba
Posts: 1,217
Eh_nigma is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Eh_nigma
Pure genious! Thanks!!! I can see where you're going with this... and yes, it is definately simplified!
__________________
"What are you doing to your car that's taking it so long?"
-Everything
"Why an Alero?"
-Why the hell not?
Eh_nigma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2005, 06:43 PM   #3
cherrington17
Gone
 
cherrington17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
cherrington17 has a spectacular aura aboutcherrington17 has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to cherrington17
Step 2.

Now connect your power supply. This will be a Power wire in your car. The easiest place to get that is from the fuse box on either side of the car. I'd suggest consulting the manual and picking one that is NOT that important to proper car function (in case you blow that fuse)

Picture 2 is the image of my make shift power supply.
__________________
Frequently Asked Questions
...You only stop learning when your dead...
cherrington17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2005, 06:50 PM   #4
cherrington17
Gone
 
cherrington17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
cherrington17 has a spectacular aura aboutcherrington17 has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to cherrington17
Step 3.

Connect your power supply to the terminal block.
1|2|3|4
5|6|7|8


Since screws 1;5 and 2;6 are "jumpered" together, you can connect power to either screw 1 or 2 and the voltage will get to screw 5 and 6. This makes thing easier when your using more then one led.

Also in this picture, i have my ground wire inserted under screw 3. This is the ONLY place this wire can go, since screw 3 and 4 are isolated from each other. The only way the voltage can return from screw 7 is directly to screw 3 and thats all.

(w/ this "basic" setup, the power and ground both come from the power supply. In your car, the power will come from the fuses [connected to the battery] and a ground will be any place on the structural metal of the car) Personally, i used a good sized bolt under the center console as a ground. I just unscrewed it a bit, put a wire under it and tightened it back down really good.
__________________
Frequently Asked Questions
...You only stop learning when your dead...
cherrington17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2005, 06:54 PM   #5
cherrington17
Gone
 
cherrington17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
cherrington17 has a spectacular aura aboutcherrington17 has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to cherrington17
That should be all you need to connect power and ground to a LED. The last image is of the complete setup. Very easy to do.
__________________
Frequently Asked Questions
...You only stop learning when your dead...
cherrington17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2005, 07:01 PM   #6
Eh_nigma
the "Why Not?" Guy
 
Eh_nigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: CFB Shilo, Manitoba
Posts: 1,217
Eh_nigma is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via MSN to Eh_nigma
if you hook up the distributor to a steady 3V power supply (use a resistor and then draw power from the car...), you can mount multiple LED's on the same distributor...
__________________
"What are you doing to your car that's taking it so long?"
-Everything
"Why an Alero?"
-Why the hell not?
Eh_nigma is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2005, 07:55 PM   #7
cherrington17
Gone
 
cherrington17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
cherrington17 has a spectacular aura aboutcherrington17 has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to cherrington17
i haven't tried it, but in theory it would work. (as long as all the led's on that distribution were the same.

putting the resistor on the power, coming into the block.... hmm... never really thought of that. lol.
__________________
Frequently Asked Questions
...You only stop learning when your dead...
cherrington17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2006, 02:03 PM   #8
cherrington17
Gone
 
cherrington17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
cherrington17 has a spectacular aura aboutcherrington17 has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to cherrington17
dremelled led tip....

for the members that wonder "how far" to sand them....

just need to get rid of the "cone" top...

__________________
Frequently Asked Questions
...You only stop learning when your dead...
cherrington17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2006, 03:08 PM   #9
Whitetigerboi83
V.I.P. Member
 
Whitetigerboi83's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 325
Whitetigerboi83 is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via AIM to Whitetigerboi83 Send a message via MSN to Whitetigerboi83 Send a message via Yahoo to Whitetigerboi83
http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz found to help alot if needed more info on resistor sizes etc.
or http://metku.net/index.html?sect=view&n=1&...dcalc/index_eng
__________________
2002 4door alero 2.2 ecotech Two tone Pearl White upper, Graphite Lower.
Whitetigerboi83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 03:07 PM   #10
Vir.se
GX Member
 
Vir.se's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 20
Vir.se is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by cherrington17 View Post
dremelled led tip....

for the members that wonder "how far" to sand them....

just need to get rid of the "cone" top...

and for the members that wonder why you sand em? Will it spread the light or focus it?
Vir.se is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 03:51 PM   #11
cherrington17
Gone
 
cherrington17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
cherrington17 has a spectacular aura aboutcherrington17 has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to cherrington17
spread light. the cone keeps a focused beam, which is what you want to remove.
__________________
Frequently Asked Questions
...You only stop learning when your dead...
cherrington17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 04:24 PM   #12
YALEROYNOT
GLS member
 
YALEROYNOT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: PA
Posts: 1,791
YALEROYNOT is on a distinguished road
here is a good calulator that I use:

led calulator



hint : if you run the leds like this (in series) and use 12 V and (6) 2v leds no resistor is needed. but you can only "chain" 6 leds in a group.
__________________

build it to break it, if it breaks it was not built well enuff !
=OFF ALL NARCOTICS ADDICTION FREE PAIN MANAGEMENT FTMFW ."million of years ago the continents were connected...." THATS FUNNY THE EARTH IS ONLY ABOUT 6000 YEARS OLD AND THEY STILL ARE CONNECTED JACK*@# !!! click here www.chronicpainanonymous.org
YALEROYNOT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 12:00 PM   #13
deathwish666
GL Member
 
deathwish666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: nazareth pa
Posts: 410
deathwish666 is on a distinguished road
does it matter what size/type(diffused/wide angle/etc) i get if im going to sand them down anyway? and what is water clear?

im looking at this store http://search.stores.ebay.com/Wellton-Superbright-Led-Store_green-led_W0QQfcdZ2QQfromZR10QQfrtsZ0QQfsubZ3030796QQfts Z1QQsaselZ243256314QQsofpZ0

i need to stay below $11 bc thats all i have in my paypal and i dont want to wait another week to transfer more haha
__________________
00 alero
so far: jvc cd player, sony xplod speakers, jl 1000/1 amp
2 12" kicker cvr, wai, green underglow
coming soon: some led's, better subs
deathwish666 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 06:38 PM   #14
cherrington17
Gone
 
cherrington17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
cherrington17 has a spectacular aura aboutcherrington17 has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to cherrington17
^didn't really go anywhere specific, for leds. just the general store.

its hard to say when to sand and when not to, when your talking about those. i used a bathroom here as a test "lab" since one we have has no windows and can be completely dark (w/ a power outlet) mock mount them w/ some tape, and connect a basic 12V power source to them (w/ a resistor of course) and see how they look. If its like a flashlight beam, then sand... if it makes the whole object glow, then don't sand.

unless your looking for a certain look... then just do whatever.
__________________
Frequently Asked Questions
...You only stop learning when your dead...
cherrington17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 08:32 PM   #15
XanderWiFi
Premier V.I.P. Member
 
XanderWiFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Posts: 1,452
XanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to XanderWiFi
Quote:
Originally Posted by cherrington17 View Post
Step 3.

Connect your power supply to the terminal block.
1|2|3|4
5|6|7|8


Since screws 1;5 and 2;6 are "jumpered" together, you can connect power to either screw 1 or 2 and the voltage will get to screw 5 and 6. This makes thing easier when your using more then one led.

Also in this picture, i have my ground wire inserted under screw 3. This is the ONLY place this wire can go, since screw 3 and 4 are isolated from each other. The only way the voltage can return from screw 7 is directly to screw 3 and thats all.

(w/ this "basic" setup, the power and ground both come from the power supply. In your car, the power will come from the fuses [connected to the battery] and a ground will be any place on the structural metal of the car) Personally, i used a good sized bolt under the center console as a ground. I just unscrewed it a bit, put a wire under it and tightened it back down really good.


I just want to make sure I understand this properly: I understand that 3:7 are connected, but would 7 be your ground under the dash or 3?
__________________
I am happy to say I have added more mods to my car than I have space to list.
XanderWiFi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2009, 08:39 PM   #16
XanderWiFi
Premier V.I.P. Member
 
XanderWiFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Posts: 1,452
XanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to XanderWiFi
Quote:
Originally Posted by cherrington17 View Post
spread light. the cone keeps a focused beam, which is what you want to remove.

Ah...I see...
__________________
I am happy to say I have added more mods to my car than I have space to list.
XanderWiFi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2009, 05:43 PM   #17
fielder87
GX Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: delhi,ontario
Posts: 78
fielder87 is on a distinguished road
3 and 7 are your grounds(plural)
fielder87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2009, 06:00 PM   #18
cherrington17
Gone
 
cherrington17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Lockport Ny
Posts: 19,244
cherrington17 has a spectacular aura aboutcherrington17 has a spectacular aura about
Send a message via AIM to cherrington17
Quote:
Originally Posted by fielder87 View Post
3 and 7 are your grounds(plural)

why..yes... yes they are.


i'm confused as to why you added this comment... but it doesn't really matter.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Eh_nigma View Post
if you hook up the distributor to a steady 3V power supply (use a resistor and then draw power from the car...), you can mount multiple LED's on the same distributor...

i know 'nigma isn't on the board anymore... but it IS possible to do this, however, all resistors have a total Wattage they can supply. (most are 1/8,1/4,1/2W) so... you can only run a few off of a line like this. Just remember, if you are going to try doing leds this way... V*A=W
__________________
Frequently Asked Questions
...You only stop learning when your dead...
cherrington17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2012, 08:39 PM   #19
XanderWiFi
Premier V.I.P. Member
 
XanderWiFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Woodbridge, VA
Posts: 1,452
XanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond reputeXanderWiFi has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to XanderWiFi
How do you direct connect to an LED bulb? Such as one from superbrightleds.com. I bought an extra and wanted to do the cupholder one but don't know how to wire them unless the bulb goes in a stock socket.

Nevermind, I have a 194 replacement so I'm sure that can't be direct wired.
__________________
I am happy to say I have added more mods to my car than I have space to list.
XanderWiFi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.6.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.