04-26-2009, 11:56 PM
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The Aleromod PITA
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ok so its not gonna be worth doing?
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04-26-2009, 11:58 PM
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No. CAI just sounds better and gets slightly cooler air. The difference is so minimal it's not worth it if you're looking for extra performance...
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04-27-2009, 12:06 AM
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well i figured with the way i did the duct i wouldnt be alot of difference, but i wanted to find out if that idea was viable, cuase i wanted to try
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04-27-2009, 01:33 AM
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A-mod Pirate
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aleroracing ur looking for numbers. How much air? Thats not the point its the temperature of the air coming in thats important but as ion stated its gonna get heated up before the intake manifold and by the time it hits the head, its gonna be hot, so theres really not that big of a difference, theres gunna be a gain but its minimal. if the amount of air is what your looking for thats forced induction, but ur not ready for that yet.
Last edited by heineck : 04-27-2009 at 01:37 AM.
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04-27-2009, 01:59 AM
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Yes he is...Come on Heineck. You already opened the can of beans, you might as well tell the poor kid how to do it. LOL
-Smurf-
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04-27-2009, 12:29 PM
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i know what forced induction is, and i dont plan on doing that, im improving my engine with minimal things to make it slightly better i could afford doing this, now on my skylark project i may toy with the plans of a supercharged 350 in a 1970 skylark
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04-27-2009, 12:40 PM
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The Drunk
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I got a question... guessing a couple people want to know it but asked in round about ways. If I have a wai, funnel/dam air to the filter, is it worth it? Or is the air velocity determined by the filter? Which obviously would seem the limiting factor.
Also the main factor of a wai and cai seems to be removing the restrictive intake. So something like a cooled intake tube would probably add more weight than the hp gain, unless you're like me and going to win 75 mil cash (after I split the 150 cash with my wife) next week.
But basically with an oiled filter you're gunna dry it out hella quick if you say port both your fogs through 2 foot tubesinto a cai or wai dam/funnel even with a blow off to keep it from imploding them right?
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04-27-2009, 12:41 PM
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In theory, the air coming into a CAI would be measurably cooler than the air from a short ram under the hood, and it gets sucked into the engine so fast that it's not going to heat up a substantial amount before it gets to the engine. With that said, also realize that the engine bay is not sealed air tight. This is not the most amazing aerodyamic car we're talking about here. It's easy for fresh air to get under the hood and circulate around the engine bay.
Honestly, you probably won't feel any difference between a CAI and short ram, and in all seriousness, it's only an air intake. No huge power gains to be had here.
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04-27-2009, 02:15 PM
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go turbo!!!
if you want more horse power do that.
if you want minimal performance and sound just stick with what you have.
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04-28-2009, 07:49 AM
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ill go turbo, if someone donates the parts, and physically helps me install in on the automatic
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04-28-2009, 09:15 AM
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I run WAI on the street and CAI on the track.
I do not take off my bumper and go in thru the headlight hole as well.
Of course I run my CAI wide open, no fog light and no fender liner. Tested it at the track, chops 1/2 second of my ET Mitch can verify, (first points day)
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04-28-2009, 10:48 AM
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A half second is pretty considerable
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04-28-2009, 10:51 AM
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New and Improved
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AleroRacing
A half second is pretty considerable
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thats what your gf said
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04-28-2009, 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AleroRacing
ill go turbo, if someone donates the parts, and physically helps me install in on the automatic
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LOL lets all throw down to pay for a turbo for him!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad99Olds
thats what your gf said
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04-28-2009, 04:50 PM
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The Aleromod PITA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MattismodderX
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cool make checks and money orders payable to my pop Craig Dudley
for purpose put AleroRacings Turbo Fund
could be a tax write off
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04-28-2009, 06:21 PM
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ALEROMOD RAPIST
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redog
I run WAI on the street and CAI on the track.
I do not take off my bumper and go in thru the headlight hole as well.
Of course I run my CAI wide open, no fog light and no fender liner. Tested it at the track, chops 1/2 second of my ET Mitch can verify, (first points day)
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^True dat. BIG difference between CAI and WAI at the track. A bit of a PITA, though, when swapping back to WAI for the ride home.
And congrats again, Ken, for making it to the Quarter-Finals on Sunday.
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