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Originally Posted by negolien
In all fairness sometimes honesty is brutal. At 82k miles with the vehicle in questionable shape whoever gave you an honest answer should be congratulated. They could have always just bilked you for whatever they could squeeze out of you.
One of the bad things about living in snow country is salt. Probably worst than living in a southern state to be honest. Not sure which one you are in or the car was in. Chances are if there's rust there there's rust elsewhere. Lift the carpet in the trunk and pull the back seat and look under the mat. You're talking about cutting sheet metal and tack welding another piece on then grinding, primer and paint.
Some people on here have oodles of money to spend on the vehicles they have. Average Joe's like me and it sounds like you don't. Hell I been saving the part I can spend out of two paychecks just to have a small part of my audio system done at a time. Don't go overboard if there's rust what's the condition of the engine, brakes, coolant system yadda yadda yadda. Prioritize my friend I think that's the best advice someone could give you.
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82K miles is fairly low mileage for a 2002 car. Yes, it's 12 years old, but I'm pretty sure a 2008 car with 82k miles isn't going to cost any less than $7,000. I've already tried this angle and the fact of the matter is that cars are holding their value a lot better nowadays.
The average mileage driven on a car is usually 12,000. If the car is a 2002, in 2014 a car should be around 144,000 miles. To me, that's the point you shouldn't be worried about rust and more worried about timing chains, transmissions, fluid flushes, and other enigne components. 82k, that's fairly low. My 1994 Cutlass had 90k when I bought it in 2013. That means, on average my Cutlass was driven 4,000 miles a year. The gaskets were shot, but after fixing it the car feels just as new as a 2014 Toyota Crapola and looks a lot better than one too.
With that being said... you have a valid point. IF there's rust somewhere, there's rust in more places. My Camaro is bubbling by the fuel door and sure enough, I need to fix the inside of my quarter panel. Everything else is solid, I just wish the previous owner didnt' drive it in the Maryland snow. SMH but whatever, all I can do is make sure it doesn't get wet and get it fixed asap. At least with that car it's still worth fixing considering that it's a 2002 (last year for Camaro and F body), and my car would be worth $4000 or so if it was in mint condition. Besides the rust, all it needs is the LIM gaskets, which I plan on doing. It's supposed to be my fuel sipper (because it has a 3800 and it gets 22-25 mpg) so little increments is all that can be done.
With that said, the fact that it's an Olds he should do the same. Prevent as much as he can and save up for the repair.
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Originally Posted by Papa Rad17
i agree entirely. so few people other then us semi few and far between car guys get that. to may people its just a car unfortunately, and they dont really give a crap.
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Many people don't appreciate anything at all. It's the same with houses. To a lot of people, a house from 1900 is just an outdated dilapidated house, but to someone else it carries history. DC and Baltimore have that problem. Many people see the houses as old and should be condemned not realizing that it is an architectural design that is long gone. Baltimore is known for their row homes... imagine all of them condemed with cookie cutter townhomes in their place. Imagine DC without its mix of architectural designs and everything being the same old cookie cutter vinyl sided building. It would take away from the flair of the city and make it look like a boring suburb.
Cars is the same. Anyone can have a mass produced car but it takes someone with taste to keep a design on the road 25 years after production ended; whether or not the brand itself still exists. My Cutlass Supreme convertible keeps interest in Oldsmobile alive becuase no one really knew that car existed. Most people thought they stopped making convertibles in the 70's. I get a lot of bone head questions about the car, but I also get a lot of people intrigued (no pun intended) as to what car it is and etc. A lot of people think it's worth more than what it really is since it's a rare car.