Gotta Get me one of these

[Chipmunk-Alero]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-PER...330 350276289

300 Horsepower/Torque +80-85 MPG

[JLw7123]

That is so a scam but it is funny.

[Oldsnut]

Check the Feedback section and your question will be answered.

[Chipmunk-Alero]

I know its a scam no shit.......

[worknprog.99]

how is all the feedback positive lol??

[DansGen1Alero]

Originally Posted by worknprog.99

how is all the feedback positive lol??

the placebo effect, they think it will work, and beleive it so much, that it actually appears to have improved HP/tourqe

[alero_bmxer]

lol hey let the flaming begin but I bought a chip from slr motorsports last week and I swear on the bible I felt a difference. shifts are firmer, rpm's are lower at highway and rural speeds and more power throughout the entire rpm range. simply put: car struggled to turn the tires before and now it does it with no problem.

[wrestlingandrunning]

Originally Posted by alero_bmxer

lol hey let the flaming begin but I bought a chip from slr motorsports last week and I swear on the bible I felt a difference. shifts are firmer, rpm's are lower at highway and rural speeds and more power throughout the entire rpm range. simply put: car struggled to turn the tires before and now it does it with no problem.

If this was true then everyone would have one since there so cheap.

[wrestlingandrunning]

Originally Posted by alero_bmxer

lol hey let the flaming begin but I bought a chip from slr motorsports last week and I swear on the bible I felt a difference. shifts are firmer, rpm's are lower at highway and rural speeds and more power throughout the entire rpm range. simply put: car struggled to turn the tires before and now it does it with no problem.

Read this

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showt...t=ebay+product

[Redog]

If anybody wants to really try this, go to radio shack and buy a 330k resistor for 10 cents. That's pretty much all this is, in fact that's hat they were before they started putting the "box" around it to make it look better

[cherrington17]

Originally Posted by Redog

If anybody wants to really try this, go to radio shack and buy a 330k resistor for 10 cents. That's pretty much all this is, in fact that's hat they were before they started putting the "box" around it to make it look better

actually... they are 5 for $0.99

[Redog]

Originally Posted by cherrington17

actually... they are 5 for $0.99

Even better.

You could make $100 for every $1 you spend

[[ion] C2]

Originally Posted by alero_bmxer

lol hey let the flaming begin but I bought a chip from slr motorsports last week and I swear on the bible I felt a difference. shifts are firmer, rpm's are lower at highway and rural speeds and more power throughout the entire rpm range. simply put: car struggled to turn the tires before and now it does it with no problem.

No.

Originally Posted by BlackJack

yeah, no shit you felt a little more power. Simple chip modifies the intake air temp (IAT) signal to trick the computer into thinking it's colder, which the PCM translates into "need more fuel".

No. IAT is not used for VE adjustments. It's used for spark, and it only subtracts spark (and only when IAT is very hot).

Here's a fun thread about IAT resistors: http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...0&t=439975&p=1

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by [ion] C2

No.

No. IAT is not used for VE adjustments. It's used for spark, and it only subtracts spark (and only when IAT is very hot).

Here's a fun thread about IAT resistors: http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.ph...0&t=439975&p=1

Yes I am aware that is ONE of the functions of the IAT.

While that was a quite interesting read....I didn't see where anyone either proved or disproved anything throughout all that banter. Was simply a bunch of people batting their opinions back and forth.

Do you have a technical reference? I don't. Only thing I saw in there as any attempt from anyone to show proof of anything was you posting a screenshot of your tuning options showing where spark could be retarded based on IAT vs MAP. However, nobody showed where it is proven not to add fuel.

However, my statement in the earlier thread was made when I was about 50% of knowledge of the capabilities of the PCM and sensors, and it was what I had learned elsewhere at multiple sources, and by a (at the time) reputable tuning source.

Here's a couple of examples but by no means all:
http://www.60degreev6.com/content/IAT_Resistor_Mod
http://www.qcwo.com/technicaldomain/...vs-real-chips/

.....all having references to adding more fuel.

While I do know what values are available to be modified in the available tuning software, I do not believe that ALL values used in calculations in a PCM/ECM are made visible for modification.

I will remain neutral on the subject of IAT's effect on calculations of fuel until someone shows me an absolute no-bullshit list of every formula used for calculation of fuel in a PCM.

[BlackJack]

Originally Posted by wrestlingandrunning

Read this

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showt...t=ebay+product

Ah, yes. I remember that. Some time ago. Still holds true, and thanks for linking it in here.

[TheMeaningOfLife]

UNless im missing somthing here, your rpms should turn the same amount at any highway speed unlesss the aleros are a variable gear ration transmission, which oimpretty sure it is not. I know the final drive should not be changed through a computer chip unless i missed something back when i owned mine.

[BlackJack]

yeah, no shit you felt a little more power. Simple chip modifies the intake air temp (IAT) signal to trick the computer into thinking it's colder, which the PCM translates into "need more fuel". Which is why I fail to see how it improves MPG.

Ugh I hate those things.

[20alero02]

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/cadill...p-their-v.html

Came upon this when looking into one of those chips a while back

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/sh...mods&page =12
Every new member should read and know this list.

[El Pablo]

300 horsepower, 85 miles per gallon? Come on, this is a steal LMAO!!!!