3.4 Supercharger, N/A, Turbo

[Mr_Reed]

Here's the stitch guys..
pretty much everyone I know fixes up imports and everyone wonders wtf is an Alero I know my car has potential and I've seen what they can do from looking into Red Dogs car and Jackals but.. I was wondering whats the best bang for you buck when it comes to moding these cars?
I just have small mods right now.
cat back exhaust system.
MSD wires/coil kit.
I plan on getting the..
PFYC Chip
Chrome Intakes (Ebay cai)
Underdrive pulley

and then the question mark comes up..
I don't want to spend over 2500 bucks I have my own shop to work in and I have lots of friends that can weld.. yada yada..

[pimpalero2003]

well if u can get people to do the turbo manifold or what ever id say turbo

[jackal2000]

turbo, hands down. you could probably piece together a budget turbo build for $2k. if you went N/A, that same amount of money gets you headers, heads, and a cam with a couple hundred bucks to spare, but no where near the power level. if i could do it again i would have just had the blown head gasket fixed and slapped a t3/t4 turbo on it and called it a day.

[YALEROYNOT]

go to reddogs cardomain page. and he listed his mods. he has like 207hp at wheels

[jackal2000]

Originally Posted by YALEROYNOT

go to reddogs cardomain page. and he listed his mods. he has like 207hp at wheels

no he doesnt. his car has never been dynoed and there is no way its even close to 200whp.

[Redog]

^^ Really, who's running 14's

[Redog]

There are a few things you can do. Personally I like the s/c over the turbo.

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out.

The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power

[jackal2000]

Originally Posted by Redog

^^ Really, who's running 14's

we both are clown. prove your claim of over 200whp. you cant just add up the hp of each mod and think thats what you have.

[Lazy-Panda]

srry redog personally 14s for me arent all that.. try lowering it more

[YALEROYNOT]

Originally Posted by YALEROYNOT

go to reddogs cardomain page. and he listed his mods. he has like 207hp at wheels

i said reddog had that hp. sorry to start a f'in war. 207 204 201 the dog is still faster

[Redog]

^^ It's cool.

He's pissed becuase of the money he spent, he should be rinning in the high 13's, not the high 14's to low 15's. I'd be pissed too

[[ion] C2]

jackal has a turbo?

turbo's reach peak power faster than superchargers?

i'm lost

[misslindseysue]

Originally Posted by [ion] C2

jackal has a turbo?

turbo's reach peak power faster than superchargers?

i'm lost

Me too. I've only driven my turbo-ed engine, but I don't get boost 'till about 2500rpm, then it's hangonholytorquesteer!

[Mr_Reed]

My bad I ment Blackjack

[billytheman1188]

Originally Posted by Mr_Reed

My bad I ment Blackjack

if i remember right, blackjack tried to save as much money as he could on his set-up. He made a lot of stuff.... just PM him and he will help you out.

[[ion] C2]

14 is still not that quick.. i can't wait to rebuild and inject meth and feel the wonders of 13-15 PSI

best bang for your buck, turbo it like the poll says

[Redog]

Jackel is right, I'm not putting down 207, I'm putting down around 201

I used this forumla from Daytona:

Calculate HP From MPH and Weight
HP = (((MPH / 234)^3) * Weight)

I pluged in my peak MPH which was 92.04 and the weight that day with driver and cargo was 3306. And for the doubters this was not a 35* day, it was actually in the low 80's on this day. It was during a points day last spring. I'm sure Daytona will vouch for that

Here's the break down:

HP = (92.04 / 234)^3) x 3306
HP = (0.393333)^3) x 3306
HP = 0.06085303703 x 3306
HP = 201.1801404

[Redog]

This web site http://www.race-cars.net/calculators/et_calculator.html

I pluged in all the proper numbers in the proper places and the figures were EXACTLY the same

and on this page of the web site

http://www.race-cars.net/calculators...alculator.html

I pluged in 3306 for weight and 14.825 which is the fastest I ran at e-town, not at Atco which is a 14.539, and guess what it said, 200.54 at the wheels and 260.71 at the flywheel.

Hmmm let's see the 14.539 at 3260 (which was the weight that day, Less gas in the tank, no cooler for drinks (only there an hour) and no other cargo, jack and spare dumped out just like in other weights listed above)

And it's a little bit higher, it said 209.65 at the wheels and 272.55 at the flywheel, so I guess the cold weather did help, a little bit

So I am putting down 200, But I guess the sciene isn't enough. O well, I have to wait to get the car into my wife's school becuase they have a Mustang Dyno there, so maybe when I get some work done, I'll have it dynoed, but then you probably won't belive there either

[Lazy-Panda]

superchargers are great too (more of a sleeper style) but u got a think about it too.. it also costs money to tune it..and one more thing the belt might need to be repaired and ya.. but personally i would go with the turbo XD ..i got one on my rx-7 (modded not the stock turbo) lol.. just go with the turbo

[kwhauck]

Originally Posted by Lazy-Panda

superchargers are great too (more of a sleeper style) but u got a think about it too.. it also costs money to tune it..and one more thing the belt might need to be repaired and ya.. but personally i would go with the turbo XD ..i got one on my rx-7 (modded not the stock turbo) lol.. just go with the turbo

your stupidity is shown in your answer, you need to tune a proper turbo setup just as much as a supercharger setup, and a belt isn't a big deal just measure and order.........

you sir are an idiot........