3.8l

[Sinatra]

I don't really plan on doing it but I just had to ask. Will the monte carlo's 3.8L fit in our Alero?

[Vtolds]

Sure, and its been asked a Million times. No one has ever done it in a Alero, but it has been done in GA's. Another question would be, is it worth it? and the answer is no you can spend the same momey and get more power out of your 3400.

[germ]

mmm, Ft Polk, Louisianna

i remember that place, almost died there 7 years ago from heat stroke.

[cherrington17]

um... how about you keep this on topic, germ... :offtopic:

anyway... it will fit. if you want to REALLY cram an engine in there... there are a few people i've seen w/ the V8 northstar (termed shortstar) engine. it fits in our cars like a viper engine. litterally no room left anywhere.

[Pimpalero03]

soo not worth it.... my alero would be right next to a 3.8 monte carlo. s/c or t/c or do engine work and you'll still spend less then what it would cost to put in a 3.8

[Redog]

Yes this it all true

It would be cheaper to fix up the 3400

[SweetNLow]

by the time u boost a 3400.......... and blow it up.......... cause it will happen....... u might as well go with the 3.8........... they can handle the boost

[ImSoBored]

not if your go dont go overboard with it. Then your engine will be fine

[Chucklez05]

I am actually planning to take on this project after i complete school. I am gong to put in a 3800 L67, which i am goning build up with the MP112 supercharger, stroker kit, and verious other thinks and the stock tranny that comes with the engine which will also be rebuilt. it will fit with some modifications to suspension and more then likly custom drive axles.

When i get started i will start to post pics of everything.

[alerored04]

you wont blow up a 3400, just the tranny, ask germ.

[mike2002]

i was gonna...im gonna.....i was about to.....


no, you wont get a working 3800 supercharged or not in your car


show me 1 99 + ga or alero that has a working l67

i can show you pics of someone who spent thousands and thousands, and hours and hours and it still doesn't run right

buy a l67 powered car if you want the power

[SweetNLow]

Originally posted by alerored04@Nov 10 2005, 08:44 PM
you wont blow up a 3400, just the tranny, ask germ.
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oh ya........ ask crazytaxi and about half the GA guys who have blowers on there car's

[-Alero-]

both the motors are underpowered. so they both arent really worth fixing up.unless you have alot of spare cash.

too me. i'd be satisfied with the 3400 being supercharged. get yourself a nice full exhaust.....a nice PCM. maybe some pulley love, and i'd really just call it good.

sure you can make just about any car fast. but the questio nreally is......do you have the money.

when money is no object you can go ape poop. :P

[SweetNLow]

the 3.8 is a much better motor to build...... much bigger aftermarket..... and those thigns run forever.... my bro had a 97 GpGt with about 170,000 and runs like new. only work ever done on it was the water pump 5,000 ago

[germ]

Originally posted by 2Sweet+Nov 10 2005, 10:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(2Sweet @ Nov 10 2005, 10:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-alerored04@Nov 10 2005, 08:44 PM
you wont blow up a 3400, just the tranny, ask germ.
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hahah, and 95% of those people are running untuned or a crappy tune or are running some hack job fuel management setup. to avoid blowing up, you have to tune the car. and if i recall the many posts on the s/c GA's, their biggest problem is the tranny blowing, not their engines.


ive been boosted for a while now and the only reason why i chunked a piston is due to a faulty spark plug thread that allowed the top of the piston to meet the bottom of the spark plug.

so whomever told you your info or however you came to the conclusion that the 3400 cant handle boost, you may actually want to boost your car before you believe everything you read on the internet.

[germ]

so let me make sure i got this straight....


Originally posted by 2Sweet@Nov 10 2005, 10:37 PM
the 3.8 is a much better motor to build......

opinion :alcoholic:



much bigger aftermarket.....

ummmm, ok.

not sure where you have been looking, but the 3400 and 3800 have about the same amount of engine mods that can be made, just not as many options....

the only thing that the 3800's have over the 3400's is roller rockers that have a higher ratio.

ill list off some things that both engines have for mods (please feel free to correct me if im wrong)...

forged pistons
forged crank
valve springs
valves
porting and polishing work
under drive pulleys
overdrive pulleys
throttle bodies
turbo kits
supercharger kits
hardened pushrods
cams
aftermarket head gaskets
PCM work
mini AFC
Powertuner
HP Tuners
ICCU
Larger MAF sensors
spark plugs
spark plug wires
hi flow fuel pump
fuel injectors
adjustable fuel pressure regulator
lower temp tstats
aftermarket lifters
double roller timing chain
exhaust
CAI's
WAI's
aftermarket bearings
Headers
built tranny


ok, so im thinking that the 3800's aftermarket isnt bigger than you had thought?



and those thigns run forever....


opinon




my bro had a 97 GpGt with about 170,000 and runs like new. only work ever done on it was the water pump 5,000 ago
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random story that has no relevance to providing any factual information

hell, ive got 3 3100 engines that have over 175k on each of them and the only thing they needed was the lower intake gasket replaced once.




im not saying one engine is better than the other, i just hate when someone says the 3800 is better because there is more aftermarket out there for it.

there is a reason why GM is not bringing the 3800 (90* engines back) and moving forward with their 60* engines.

think about it :blink:

[kwhauck]

well said germ on both posts......

[germ]

thanks

[SweetNLow]

wow didnt know i was gonna get attacked for stating my opinion. guess ill just keep it to myself next time...... mr. know it all

[2fst4u]

why don't we get this one locked before it gets ugly. it's off topic and complete opinion

[germ]

Originally posted by 2Sweet+Nov 11 2005, 10:42 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(2Sweet @ Nov 11 2005, 10:42 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>wow didnt know i was gonna get attacked for stating my opinion. guess ill just keep it to myself next time...... mr. know it all
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dude, your not getting attacked. if you think you are, hahaha, your misinformed.

and by calling me names is not going to help the situation either, if anything, its going to cause me to laugh you off and make you look more misinformed. ask anoyone, i was being nice in my post. did you miss the smilies i put in there?


you portraited your OPINION as a fact in your previous posts. your intitled to your OPINION, but dont try and claim it as fact. im not trying to be a know it all, as you so kindly called me earlier, however, im not going to sit back and see some bogus info get posted by someone that evidently may not fully know about the mods available, ESPECIALLY when the member is only a MONTH old and has a total of SEVEN posts.


and the thread is not OT. the posters question was asked and spawned another comment/opinion by 2sweet. i was simply correcting wrong info.


and since when is having an opinion grounds for having a topic locked?

[Sinatra]

well I knew that the question was asked a million times, I just I had to ask it. I really don't think its worth it at all, thats probibly why no one has done it. We have a nice v6 that just needs a little love and thats it. Who cares if your getting off topic, I like it when one topic raises another. And no one...NO ONE, should get offended or angre or defensive just because someone questioned your opinion...thats what a chat forum is all about, just have fun and think of it as a friendly debate

[jamcllw]

These should help you out. As you can see a real simple search can net plenty of results.

http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?sho...92&hl=3\.8 (http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=14592&hl=3\.8)

http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?sho...30&hl=3\.8 (http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=13230&hl=3\.8)

http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?sho...28&hl=3\.8 (http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=13228&hl=3\.8)

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http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=1881&hl=

http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=1054&hl=

[Chucklez05]

As for those who are saying that there is no way a 3800 can be put into an alero thats fine if you don't think it can be done all i am saying is that i plan to try to do it after school when i have to time and money.

I'm not saying that it will for sure work or that it will be easy all I am saying is I am going to give it a damn good try.

[-Alero-]

oh yeah Germ you forgot.

NAWZ kits.
fuel pump boosters (in line)
and interchangeable injectors (like with the chevy 4.3L)

i really wish we had aftermarket aluminum radiators :( or maybe a nice little fuel rail :(

[Pimpalero03]

we had a regal come into the dealer yesterday and i had to inspect it after it got an oil change. the engine was a series one 3800 and had 198,000 miles on it!!! i was like holy sh*t.

[mike2002]

my new car ($1000 beater) is a 93 ssei, 175k. runs like a champ, and a raped ape- this old pos can smoke the tires for 30+ feet, not just a little spin and chirp like my old 3400 alero - gotta love the torque from a roots type blower, they do seem to run longer too.

[germ]

i agree, there is nothing like some good ol low end tq. that i will say is good about the L67.

but you can make the 3400 do the same thing if you give it some love.