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[elitecloud]

when i crank the car, the engine is clicking, clicking accelerates once i increase the gas

slowly stops after 10 or so minutes of driving, deff comming from the engine and i don't feel it is of any result of the cai i put on a month or so ago, or the new filter i put on yesterday

i hope it's nothing major, i just got a job in AZ, from Louisiana cuz of the hurricane so iam about to move and need this car

help guys please

[Vtolds]

Valve Tick?

[jamcllw]

check your power steering pump
mines been clicking for a couple years now

[elitecloud]

what problems would arise from a valve tick Vtolds? costs / labor off the top of your head

and is there any way for me, non mechanic to check the power steering pump? -

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by jamcllw@Oct 13 2005, 09:20 PM
check your power steering pump
mines been clicking for a couple years now
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Power steering pumps do not click, They have a whine, if it is going.

[Redog]

If it's anything like mine, could just be the lifters or the vavles.

Been doing it a while and had my motor rebuilt (not becuase of that), nothing major

[elitecloud]

how much we talking about here red? - i was hit by rita, cash is hard to come by for me now lol sniffle

[alerored04]

im fairly sure that valve tick for the most part is just an annoyance issue, im not sure what happens when you leave it go. mine clicks from the passenger side, when i installed my UD pulley i got a belt a tad too long and it clicks when there isnt tension on it by a motor load. once it is under load and the motor flexes it goes away. so it could be like mine, an old belt that has stretched or a tensioner that is old. but if it directly from the motor valve tick sounds like the culprit.

[-Alero-]

yeah its nothing to be concerned about its very very common on the 3400, all it is, is the lifters and valves expanding, while oil is being circulated. and once htey've expanded to a certain point the noise goes away. its nothing to worry about really.

[jamcllw]

Originally posted by AftermathAlero+Oct 13 2005, 04:52 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(AftermathAlero @ Oct 13 2005, 04:52 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-jamcllw@Oct 13 2005, 09:20 PM
check your power steering pump
mines been clicking for a couple years now
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Power steering pumps do not click, They have a whine, if it is going.
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Mine's clicking. I can't be anything else. Took the belt off no more clicking. Put belt back on clicking. Start to trace clicking with screwdriver to ear trick. Yep it's my power steering pump. Took belt back off. Turned pump by hand. Felt click. Definantly power steering pump. Check all pulleys around power steering pump none click. Turn power steering pump some more and can still feel the click.

[AftermathAlero]

wow.. i guess urs is to the point of no more whineing, to just plain out clicking. Prolly one of the ball bearings or something in the pump broke for it to click like that. never heard that before. You should change it. Very easy and doesn't cost too much for a reman. pump.

[alerochick242]

Originally posted by -Alero-@Oct 14 2005, 12:19 AM
yeah its nothing to be concerned about its very very common on the 3400, all it is, is the lifters and valves expanding, while oil is being circulated. and once htey've expanded to a certain point the noise goes away. its nothing to worry about really.
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Yep, don't worry about it. Mine has done it since it was brand new. Once it gets warmed up and the oil gets to everything, it stops. My husband said that it has something to do with the hydraulic lifters, but it won't hurt anything. It's annoying though cause it sounds like a model-T when you first start it! :wacko:

[elitecloud]

guy looked at it today said it was the lifters losing thier prime

and it might cost me 450 each lifter to be replaced - 2 lifters per cylinder x 6 = 6000, ha i'll pass

or he's like go get some slick 50 and put it in your car, iam like ok, so i did an oil change my self and put 3 quarts in it and slick 50, doesn't click anymore hehe

[elitecloud]

now the car is overheating, jesus

it's usually running at the medium bar, but now gets up to the 3/4 point, turing the heater on helps alot but this is not something i need

so i am going to buy another thermostat today and install it, but where is the thermostat at in the car, do i need to drain all the dex-cool out to install it? and refill it with dex-cool afterwards?

another question, i added the slick 50 and 3 quarts of oil, the oil light is comming on now, should i add more oil or do another drain and change the oil again?

also the low coolant light is comming on....

thanks

[jamcllw]

thermostat basically under the throttlebody. it's where the upper rad hose meets with the block. It's a PITA to change. You got to have small hands.

[alerored04]

tstat isnt that bad if you take off the throttle body. im pretty sure that you could reuse the coolant if you make sure to keep it clean, but id rather play it safe and replace it. good luck.

[bigd6983]

check for any coolant leaks.......you may have had a problem with coolant into your oil or oil into your coolant.......but for sure get a lower intake manifold checked out

[Wildman]

The coolant loss could be one of the two most common things on the 3400. Check these out before you replace your thermostat because if your low on coolant, that will make it run hot also and be the cause of your temp guage going up to 3/4 mark.
Either
A) Water pump. *Check for coolant around the water pump, or a discolored stripe that runs from the front of the hood liner to the back, on the passenger side of the hood. (From the coolant leaking out and being slung around by the turning belts and pulleys)

B) Lower Intake Manifold Gasket *Check where the intake meets the block for signs of cooland seeping out. Or check the oil when you change it for a milky discoloration

When you say your oil light is on, is it the change oil light, low oil light, or low oil pressure light ?? If its the change oil light, then reset it by following the instructions posted elsewhere on this forum. If it's the Low Oil light, then park on a level surface and check the dipstick to see how low you are and to see how much you should add. And if it's the oil pressure light........seek professional help.

And as fas as the "tapping" noise, yes its a common on the 3100/3400. Mines been doing it forever. It causes no harm to the motor. Just annoying is all.

[elitecloud]

well i added 3 quarts of oil and 1/2 quart of slick 50 when i did my oil change, so today i added another quart of oil, i used mobil1 half synthetic 7500 miles approved, and the light went off, i hope that wasn't too much oil...

the coolant, i topped it off about a week ago or so, and it was back down almost bare again, so iam sure i have a leak, but it's not mixing with the oil that i know of

i am going to check for leaks tommorow, should i run the car to see if it's leaking anywhere or should i just do it when it's not running, i can't get under the car with out putting it on ramps tho

what i plan to do, because i really don't have the funds or anything right now to fix the car if something were to go wrong is just pay it so that iam not upside down on teh car anymore, worth 6900 own 9500 on it, and then trade it in for like a ranger or somthing, i really want a truck....

so ;-)

how much is a lower intake manifold gasket? and can that be done myself?

ditto with teh water pump.

and thanks guys for the help

[bigd6983]

the water pump i heard is pretty easy.........remove belt, remove the pulley for the water pump and then remove the pump itself.......the gasket is a little bit more involved........but as far as leaks of coolant, check inside where you pour your oil for anything that looks wrong, check inside your coolant tank for any brown sludge........check ontop off your tranny right below your throttle body for a puddle of coolant.......

[sound_xtreme]

Originally posted by elitecloud@Oct 13 2005, 04:01 PM
when i crank the car, the engine is clicking, clicking accelerates once i increase the gas

slowly stops after 10 or so minutes of driving, deff comming from the engine and i don't feel it is of any result of the cai i put on a month or so ago, or the new filter i put on yesterday

i hope it's nothing major, i just got a job in AZ, from Louisiana cuz of the hurricane so iam about to move and need this car

help guys please
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sounds like your lifters. check your oil, check your coolant. my lifters ticked when i had the lower intake manifold leak. too much coolant will stop the oil from working. change your oil

[sound_xtreme]

you have your lower intake manifold gasket replaced yet? it's pretty important you do so asap if it's leaking and ticking like you say. Means the leak is really bad and WILL destroy your motor.

[elitecloud]

i havn't noticed a leak yet, i checked a few times and nothing

i havn't had to replace any more coolant in the car in a few days, i will check again today tho, should i just go ahead and replace the gasket just in case?

[sound_xtreme]

i never could see any coolant in my oil either. but it was in there. i had the stealership do it and i guess they ran some tests and it was full of it. if you lose more coolant and dont see any leaks on the ground or anything it's most likely the lower intake manifold leaking in the oil. you won't actually be able to see it leak most likely, I only noticed a very small amount puddling under the throttlebody area.

[elitecloud]

ok sound, here's the deal

right now i am in arizona, staying hotel to hotel till my family and i can find a house

iam still losing coolant, and now i see a puddle of coolant under the throttle body area, like it's sitting on the tranny or somthing, that area, i can take a picture of it if ya need it...

now iam sure it's the lower intake manifold gasket..
is this something that i can change myself, i went to autozone, and all they had were the upper intake manifold gasket, not the lower

if this is somthing i can change myself can you give me a basic walkthru as to where the intake manifold is, and what steps iam going to need to install the gasket

if it's not somthing i can change myself, how much is the lower intake gasket and where should i get it, and what should i be paying to get it fixed, iam going to need to change the gasket, the coolant, and the oil in the car right? i need a price to go for man, cash is hard to come by right now, fema is paying for my hotel room for the next month cuz iam close to broke

Thanks man, any help is appreciated

[elitecloud]

bumpy bumpy bump :cry: :cry:

[SweetNLow]

best bet is to have a GM dealership change it. this is not a repair a rookie can make. ur prolly lookin in the $500-$600 range in total costs. i forget what mine was cause i had the extended warrenty so it only cost me like $50

[sound_xtreme]

i had the stealership do mine. i think it was 800. been a while tho

[elitecloud]

how long does it take for the dealership to fix it?

[SweetNLow]

its a one day job

[sound_xtreme]

Originally posted by elitecloud@Nov 6 2005, 07:11 PM
how long does it take for the dealership to fix it?
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took the one i went to a week or more.

[SweetNLow]

^^^ well u got focked then.

call a gm dealer and schedule an appointment. they will tell u its a one day job

[elitecloud]

i just put it in the shop, told him eveything i knew that was wrong with it, and told him about the site lol i got all the info i know from aleromod.com hehe

he said it's going to cost anywhere from 800-1100 bucks to fix...poop
and now my other car, my mom's which is our primary means of transportation is burning oil like nobody's buisness....jesus if it's not one thing it's another..

they said that they were busy and it's going to take about 3 days to get to...w/e i start my job on the 15th, so yeah that's good i guess...i am going to have to pay this off as fast as i can and trade it in, i don't need these problems in the financial situation that iam in.........sniffle

aight guys thanks for the help, now it's not in my hands anymore....pray for me guys.
love

[sound_xtreme]

yes, it may be a one day job. but chances they'll get it in right away are slim.

[elitecloud]

Total = 853.55

labor was like 650 bucks ouch

thanks again guys, i have a 12month / 12,000 mile warranty on parts/labor from the dealership so that's good

Thanks Again guys, i couldn't have done it without ya

[sound_xtreme]

Originally posted by elitecloud@Nov 10 2005, 11:30 AM
Total = 853.55

labor was like 650 bucks ouch

thanks again guys, i have a 12month / 12,000 mile warranty on parts/labor from the dealership so that's good

Thanks Again guys, i couldn't have done it without ya
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ya, that's exactly why i went with the stealership. i havent had any problems since, now 3 years later.

[elitecloud]

it's fugging clicking again, and the temp gauge is getting alittle above the half way mark again!!!

should i bring it back to the dealership and get them to check it out again?

GRRR i'm pissed

but we got a house and are starting to move in tommorow wee

[sound_xtreme]

ya, take it back