Transmission Quit

[Wild Country]

At only 46K miles... I HATE DOMESTIC'S!!!

[misslindseysue]

What did you do to it? The 45 is damn near bulletproof. If you weren't abusing it GM should help you out at less than 60k miles.

[FormulaNERD]

bulletproof? lmao. mine went at 70k

[Redog]

Bulletproof, ummmm no

[misslindseysue]

Ok, bulletproof in its stock condition. And we all know how you two treated yours.

[Wild Country]

The only bad thing I did to it was I was about 2K miles over on my oil change. Other than that, I babied her. Anyone have a contact with GM... Scot maybe... that I can see if they will help with this??? If so, drop me a PM. Thanks!

[jamcllw]

i believe it's 1-800-442-OLDS

[misslindseysue]

Yup, start with 1-800-442-OLDS. Overdrive75 is the GM transmission hookup around here. He can't get you any help, but he might know who can.
Did you have any mods at all?

[Wild Country]

Originally posted by misslindseysue@Sep 23 2005, 08:00 PM
Yup, start with 1-800-442-OLDS. Overdrive75 is the GM transmission hookup around here. He can't get you any help, but he might know who can.
Did you have any mods at all?
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Just an intake

[Oldsman]

didn't you buy that ar from marc.....................lol

good luck getting any help from GM. customer support isn't their highest quality. but if your a presistant about it you might get somewhere. good luck.

[misslindseysue]

CAI? How long did you have it on? Hate to tell you, but there's a reason aftermarket parts and mods void your warranty. Your best bet is to get your dealer to goodwill it (assuming you have a good relationship with them).
Scot's right though, GM is piss poor at customer support, they even tell their employees to suck it, ask Overdrive75. That's still the first place to start though, a tranny shouldn't quit like that. Be nice to them, and tell them you're asking for help because you know that a trans shouldn't go out like that, and if they don't stand behind a trans with 46k miles they've lost a customer for life.

[Wild Country]

Originally posted by misslindseysue@Sep 24 2005, 11:52 AM
CAI? How long did you have it on? Hate to tell you, but there's a reason aftermarket parts and mods void your warranty. Your best bet is to get your dealer to goodwill it (assuming you have a good relationship with them).
Scot's right though, GM is piss poor at customer support, they even tell their employees to suck it, ask Overdrive75. That's still the first place to start though, a tranny shouldn't quit like that. Be nice to them, and tell them you're asking for help because you know that a trans shouldn't go out like that, and if they don't stand behind a trans with 46k miles they've lost a customer for life.
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Good relationship with my dealer??? Haha, yea right... they aint nuttin but a bunch o' scumbags. One of the many reasons why Marc isn't working for them anymore (he was my salesman). I dropped them an email yesterday so hopefully I'll hear something by tomorrow.

Thanks everyone for the advice.

[razzigls]

My shifting is getting a lot more play in it than normal... i had the fluids flushed out and ever since it seems like the transmission is slipping more and more....

i have the 3.4 w/130k on my car right now. When i baby it....does fine, but if i try to accell fast then it decides to slip between gears...and a little bit while in gear..... wonder how long i have before it goes out? And what will happen when it does go out lol?

[cobra621]

razzigls,

probably soon, and you'll quit moving ;)


I thought these trannies had a decent reputation.

[misslindseysue]

They have a great reputation, they're the best in the world. But if you flush the fluids that can mess things up, especially if you put the wrong ones back in. Sometimes when a trans is old you do more harm to put in new fluid. All the old gunk in the fluid is all that's making the clutches grab.

[Fast Eddie]

Originally posted by misslindseysue@Sep 24 2005, 10:52 AM
CAI? How long did you have it on? Hate to tell you, but there's a reason aftermarket parts and mods void your warranty. Your best bet is to get your dealer to goodwill it (assuming you have a good relationship with them).
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The only warranty voided is on the parts replaced, unless they can prove the aftermarket components CAUSED the failure. I just got a brand new engine from GM with a CAI, header, and full exhaust. more info (http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm)

[Fast Eddie]

Originally posted by Wild Country+Sep 25 2005, 07:02 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Wild Country @ Sep 25 2005, 07:02 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-misslindseysue@Sep 24 2005, 11:52 AM
CAI?Â;-) How long did you have it on?Â;-) Hate to tell you, but there's a reason aftermarket parts and mods void your warranty.Â;-) Your best bet is to get your dealer to goodwill it (assuming you have a good relationship with them).Â;-)
Scot's right though, GM is piss poor at customer support, they even tell their employees to suck it, ask Overdrive75.Â;-) That's still the first place to start though, a tranny shouldn't quit like that.Â;-) Be nice to them, and tell them you're asking for help because you know that a trans shouldn't go out like that, and if they don't stand behind a trans with 46k miles they've lost a customer for life.
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Good relationship with my dealer??? Haha, yea right... they aint nuttin but a bunch o' scumbags. One of the many reasons why Marc isn't working for them anymore (he was my salesman). I dropped them an email yesterday so hopefully I'll hear something by tomorrow.

Thanks everyone for the advice.
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YOu could always go to another dealer if the warranty is from anyone but that dealer, which is highly likely. Being in or near chicago you should be able to find a better dealer.

[misslindseysue]

Well if you really want to get into it with GM, I know plenty of engineers who can prove that a CAI will fry an engine and trans.

And if you read the Mag-Moss Act, it applies to direct replacement parts, not "upgrades."

[Redog]

Originally posted by misslindseysue@Sep 23 2005, 12:56 PM
Ok, bulletproof in its stock condition. And we all know how you two treated yours.
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It was the burnouts that did mine in, Racing didn't help but wasn't the main cause

[Chucklez05]

Yea i am having the same problems as razzi anybody know whats going on, I don't know much more then the basics about and automatic tranny so im kindda a newbie in this area.

[Fast Eddie]

Originally posted by misslindseysue@Oct 7 2005, 11:21 AM
Well if you really want to get into it with GM, I know plenty of engineers who can prove that a CAI will fry an engine and trans.

And if you read the Mag-Moss Act, it applies to direct replacement parts, not "upgrades."
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I don't really want to get into it with GM but they evidently didn't want to get into it with SEMA, or my lawyer either, :shrug: . Out of morbid curiosity I'd to see how a properly functioning and installed CAI would fry an engine, unless it pushed the engine into an extremly lean condition and holed a piston or something, id especially like to see how it would fry a trans.

I have read the Act. It basically says that if you have a CAI (for example) the intake is no longer warranted. Anything downstream is covered, unless the warrantor can prove it caused the failure. Basically anything you replace is no longer covered. If some other part fails the burden is on the warrantor to prove the failure was the result of the aftermarket part, sec 2302c. If they can't they have to fix it.

[misslindseysue]

A CAI will cause it to run lean, eroding the pistons and cyliner heads. As for the trans, I'll have to get Pat to explain. But basically it's cal'd to shift differently in lean conditions, which aren't good for it all the time.

I'm really not trying to start a fight with you. Obviously you're smarter than "I put NAWS on my car and blew it up." It's just those assholes who screw their dealer out of a new engine who cost my boyfriend his job in the long run (only any sort or raise or promotion this year, but who knows what to come).

And there are dealers who won't do legitimate warranty claims, giving GM a bad reputation, again, costing people near and dear to me their living.

So, assholes all around I suppose. The law is there to protect everyone.

[Fast Eddie]

I'm not trying to argue or fight either. I just don't want people to think that just because they add a CAI their warranty is voided. Or that a properly installed and functioning CAI will cause an engine to fail. After nearly three years with a CAI My old engine showed no signs of running lean.

I think I have seen how the auto trans can be affected by a new intake before, something to do with vacuum lines or something if I recall correct, i've got a manual so never really paid too much attention.

I have never heard of a CAI leaning an engine out before though. I would think most EFI engines should be able to compensate for the (slightly) larger quantity of oxygen entering the engine. They typically measure the air pressure and based on a number of other calulations determine the correct amount of fuel to spray into the cylinder. The post combustion sensors also come into the equation and help correct any lean/rich condition. I suppose if you crammed more air than the MAP or MAF sensor could read into the engine you would have problems but I think that would require some form of forced induction.

The only problem I could think of, short of sucking debris into the engine, is to run into a rich condition where the air is flowing too fast through the CC and does not burn completely, like what hapens when you port a head too much. This typically clogs the cat and post combustion sensors with little negative effect on the engine itself.

I may be wrong. IF someone knows something different please post it.

[sheldo79]

i got 88k on mine and i got it used (the car) to tell u the truth i beat the livin crap out of it and runs and shift good (i got a heavy foot) but some times it shifts rough i got but i think when i change the cat itll be good:)

[Midgear]

My transmission seems to be slipping a bit in first gear.. (curse my lead foot).. i'll have to baby it around untill i have the money to either get it fixed, get a new one, or just go ahead and get a "high performance" one and just stick with that, since i plan on modding the rest of the car anyways.

[alerored04]

you aint gonna find a "high performance one" anywhere. You will have to swap to 4T65 which is overkill or build the 45 yourself if you want high performance.

[Redog]

I did see a hd 45 tranny, but it was very expensive.

Try a tranny flush first