Turbochargers

[TrickedAlero]

does anyone know where i can get one for my 99 alero

[Insane75]

Try This (http://www.turbochargedpower.com/Pontiac%20Grand%20Am.htm)

[TrickedAlero]

thanx just bought one

[misslindseysue]

^ Wanna pick one up for me, too? It's almost my birthday. :wub:

[Insane75]

I wonder if they'll give me one for reffering them? :D

[brad_galles16]

Hey,
Can you get a turbo for a 2.4L 4cyl. alero?? Would that be a good thing to get?? I don't want to buy a whole new engine to get some hp in the thing. I want a v6 or the power of a v6. I just don't want to spend the money on a new v6 engine or a new alero. I love the car I have!! Thanks for the replies. And my car is stock so where could I get a good ground effects kit?? Thanks.

[r53silver91s]

I don't know about turbo's for the 2.4 because I have the 3400, but I think you can find one. A good place to start for some power is CAI, exhaust, and headers.

The razzi kit is the only ground effect kit right now. You can find it on www.razzi.com or www.pfyc.com(banner at the top of the screen). But there are a few body kits out, check www.andysautosport.com and click on body kits then oldsmobile, there is another body kit I can't mention but email me and I will tell you, and an OSV kit is in the works. I may have forgot one but I don't remember right now.

Best place to look for the 2.4 is in the 2.4 section, read through all of the info in there and you'll find all the answers you need.

[brad_galles16]

Thanks alot!!!! I appreciate the help. I don't know if I should keep this car or not though. It has 60,000 miles on it and the trade in value on the car is 10,000. It is a 4cyl and I want a v6 and a lot more power!! I want a Tiburon. The alero is a great car and fun to drive but I think I want something a little more sporty. I am just going to have to compare them and find out what is best I guess. Let me know what yall think. Thanks

[Naich]

not to spoil your fun, but the trade-in value on an alero with 60k is not going to be 10,000... espcially the 2.4L. Might want to check into that before you plan on trading it in for a tib.

However, we have an entire section of info on the 2.4L twin cam... check it out. There are quite a few things for that engine.

[Alerosince99]

but the trade-in value on an alero with 60k is not going to be 10,000

amen to that. Wont be close to that! When I traded my other alero in a year ago it had about 54k on it and was a 99. I got 8k for it and that was making them stretch.

[r53silver91s]

I thought about trading mine in too, but I would lose to much money, I'm keeping it until it is paid off and dies.

I would keep it if I were you. Like Naich said you will not get $10,000 for a trade in on that. There is alot you can do to aleros, more than I knew when I bought mine.

[brad_galles16]

Thanks for the help. I guess I'll keep it!!! I could do modifications on the body cause the body is in great shape. I guess when the motor goes out I can put a new one in instead of getting a Tiburon. How much do you think it would cost to put in a v6 engine?? And I looked into the turbochargers for 2.4L and they are $2000!!! I am 18 and about to go to college so my mom thought I would get tired of this car soon and want something different. I really like the body style and the handling though. Thanks for all the help. I don't know where I found the trade-in-value at but i'm sure you are right...That is pretty high!!!

[r53silver91s]

You can find your trade in value at www.kbb.com and just click on trade in value.

And if you don't have enough for a $2000 turbo, you probably willn't have enough to change engines to the 3400 cause there is alot more involved then just swapping out motors.

Good luck man, and check out www.aleroupgrades.com and you'll find everything you need to get started. The site isn't working right now, but it will be shortly.

[99ALERO]

wow a company with proven results! Better than http://www.itsturbo.net/products/productsd...+AM&qvendor=ITS (http://www.itsturbo.net/products/productsdccd.html?view=page&qcategory=Turbo+Kits&qtype=Pontiac+Grand+AM&qvendor=ITS)

I would like to see the intercooler, and that wastegate is in a godawful spot, but they back up their kits with dynos. Thanks for the link Insane75

[ImSoBored]

or for less money, you could make your own from used parts

[StealthAlero]

I want to hear more about this kit once you install it, pm me or something. Does this kit, bolt directly onto our cars. I know its made for the grand am and our parts are interchangable, but its a complete bolt on? Also, does anyone know if its an adjustable alki kit? and do you need new internals for this kit? I wouldn't mess with the boost but, just for the stock settings would you need them? thanks.

[Travis99Alero]

Originally posted by 99ALERO@Jan 22 2004, 08:34 PM
wow a company with proven results! Better than http://www.itsturbo.net/products/productsd...+AM&qvendor=ITS (http://www.itsturbo.net/products/productsdccd.html?view=page&qcategory=Turbo+Kits&qtype=Pontiac+Grand+AM&qvendor=ITS)

I would like to see the intercooler, and that wastegate is in a godawful spot, but they back up their kits with dynos. Thanks for the link Insane75
ITS turbo is a joke. their shop is/was about 5 minutes from my house, but i know they were having a lot of financial trouble, and pissed off a lot of people. they have a really bad reputation locally, as well as on the net.

[StealthAlero]

I got an email back from their rep. and heres what he said

"The car made 220 horsepower and 255 torque at the wheels @ 5 lbs boost on the dyno; the guy who owns this car plans to take it to about 10 lbs. as soon as he gets his tranny re-done. The price is good through the end of this month or as soon as the existing stock of kits is sold. The alcohol injection is programmable, and the chip will also be available very soon at a price of $400."

[StealthAlero]

Has any alero owner actually put this on their cars yet?

[Final-Reality]

Tricked alero claimed to have boughten one for his alero... any word on if that's true, and if so how it runs?

[jturkey69]

so far they havent fit one to an alero yet...i plan on picking this up in a month or so yet...but now springs(john) has been dealing with them...seems hes bailing on his s/c, and it now sounds like hes gonna be dealing with them on many levels...not sure about that

looks like a grudge match in the future..lol

[StealthAlero]

yeah i'm saving for it too, but i want to make sure this is an absolute bolt on. So there's no problem for this kit going from the grandam to the alero.

[TrickedAlero]

I got an email back from those people saying they sent it and it should be here within 2-3 weeks i will post pics.....

Im going to be broke afterwards.. I got to pay to have it installed DANG....

[StealthAlero]

Pay to have it installed? Why don't you do it yourself? They even claim its so easy you can install it in 12 hours. Ofcourse to a newbie it might take a whole day or two but trust me, if your good with cars and have the proper tools, install it yourself, you'll save big.

[Final-Reality]

Proper tools and/or a place to do the work is probably the reason he won't be doing it himself

[jturkey69]

they sent it?...did they send info about the pcm tune?

[StealthAlero]

Does the downpipe in this kit replace the cat?

[jturkey69]

^^no...stock cat remains

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by jturkey69@Feb 22 2004, 08:11 AM
so far they havent fit one to an alero yet...i plan on picking this up in a month or so yet...but now springs(john) has been dealing with them...seems hes bailing on his s/c, and it now sounds like hes gonna be dealing with them on many levels...not sure about that

looks like a grudge match in the future..lol
I'll be working with them and with other companies to make this kit work
we are not sure yet if the intercooler will fit an alero.
this is why at this time the kit only shows to be available for a gagt.
they have no computer tune yet for the gase or the alero.
however I'm working with dhp too.
I should be getting my first tunned computer back from them soon.
but yeah the sc kit is off as of right now
the turbo price is hard to compete with.
and whipple raised prices making it even harder.
if anyone wants a whipple head unit, 8 1/4" drive shaft and bypass valve I have them for 1900 plus shipping.
retail on the head unit is now 1900

[StealthAlero]

So your saying the 2 people that just ordered the hp kits for their aleros are screwed. At least with the intercooler part?

[jturkey69]

i dont think there will be any problems with the IC, however the tune is a different story.
so john....whats the deal....are you gonna be selling these thru apoc as well or something?....you had mentioned a dealership with them.
either way i will have this soon, but i am gonna pay their intro price of 2995, rather then wait and get the price jacked up

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by StealthAlero@Feb 24 2004, 04:32 PM
So your saying the 2 people that just ordered the hp kits for their aleros are screwed. At least with the intercooler part?
Well your not screwed but the kit was not designed for the alero.
and they have not tested if the intercooler fits are not.
and currently only the alcohol kit is available for the alero. no chip yet.
being the front end is different on the alero it may not fit. but we (hp or I) have not tested it on an alero.
this is a risk you take when you buy somthing not designed for your car.

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by jturkey69@Feb 24 2004, 06:05 PM
i dont think there will be any problems with the IC, however the tune is a different story.
so john....whats the deal....are you gonna be selling these thru apoc as well or something?....you had mentioned a dealership with them.
either way i will have this soon, but i am gonna pay their intro price of 2995, rather then wait and get the price jacked up
I'm a dealer now but they are selling it basically at dealer cost so it does me no good till the first 10 kits are gone. (they are down to 4 or less now)
I'm calling dhp up in a bit about an alero tune.
I'm also looking at getting 3" exhaust systems made and optioning for a 3" down pipe in my kit.

and have you seen the pix of phantoms front mount?
it comes low on a ga and our front end cuts a little higher.
it may fit but it's prolly going to sit low

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by StealthAlero@Feb 22 2004, 08:01 PM
Pay to have it installed? Why don't you do it yourself? They even claim its so easy you can install it in 12 hours. Ofcourse to a newbie it might take a whole day or two but trust me, if your good with cars and have the proper tools, install it yourself, you'll save big.
lol they recomend doing this install on a lift.
I'll prolly be going to pick mine up/install because it will cost me less in gas getting there than shipping.
then we will know on the spot if things need to be changed and I'll know ecactly how to install one.

[StealthAlero]

yeah, i have access to a bunch of lifts and all required tools so this will be no problem. Can't wait to here back from ya. I plan on ordering this kit soon.

[jturkey69]

yeah john, i did look close at the pics of toms car...and i have kinda mocked up a IC from a honda/edelbrock kit on the alero before...being that i will the razzi front, ill have to see how much trimming i will have to do....

on the other hand tho...anyone with a AAS front will be rockin all kinds of room, so that may be a viable option as well

[StealthAlero]

Originally posted by springs fastest alero@Feb 25 2004, 01:20 AM
I'll prolly be going to pick mine up/install because it will cost me less in gas getting there than shipping.
then we will know on the spot if things need to be changed and I'll know ecactly how to install one.
So how long are we talking about, when are you driving there?

[Alerosince99]

Man I have been so close to pulling the trigger on this. If there werent concerns with the tranny and tune I think i would have clicked the button by now. Must resist...lol! ;)

[jturkey69]

^im kinda with you on this...but since john is in a hurry, ill let him go thru all the hassle and save myself some money and wait. besides there is now a custom ADJUSTABLE piggyback soon to be available, along with the DHP tune, so it will eliminate needs like a super afc an all that crap.

so far tom has boosted up to 264 hp and 280 something torque, at 9 psi on his stock tranny, but he said with hard dyno runs it starts to slip.

so as of now im putting this on hold so i have money for both the turbo and trans in one shot, downside is ill have to wait til july, upside is i will have my heads and intake installed, and of course all the rest of the appearence mods

[Alerosince99]

Yeah I saw that piggyback...that will be a very nice thing to have. Its tough not to be impulsive but like you I have a ton of stuff to install already. Ill probably shoot for this fall and do it as next years winter project. ;)

[Pimpalero03]

it would be tight havin a turbo'd 3400 but not sure its worth all that money and voiding of warrenty.

[dopey]

i gotta feeling htere are gonna be alot of cooked trannies once people start installin this monster.

be carful dude...... turkey ur doin the smart thing and doin ur tranny at the same time. good idea

[Alerosince99]

I have to agree the tranny is a must. I think you would be ok for a bit if you kept the #s down to around 5-6 but who wants to go on a guess. If the trannys from domestic performance end up being high quality that would be for sure the route to go.

[StealthAlero]

Are you going to just install a whole new stock tranny or rebuild yours jturkey?

[jturkey69]

sweet......yeah, i figure i want my car to look good first, so ill get all the body and stuff done for Power Tour, and even though the turbo kit will cost more after the intro period, i figure as with any product, all the kinks will be ironed out

stealth....i will be going with Domestic Performance for the trans, im not sure if Ty will have cores available for the alero/se, but more then likely he should, otherwise i have a core trans in the garage for this purpose, there is some more in fo on the trans here http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread....20&pagenumber=1 (http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27320&perpage=20&pagenumber=1)

turkey

[Alerosince99]

Why bother getting a tranny made for the alero...might as well get the gt tranny from domestic performance and just get a chip from dhp. I was under the impression he didnt need cores.

[StealthAlero]

Ok, so that thread at GAGT.com was old so update me.

Are you getting it for around $3,700 or $2,500 like Domestic Performance is offering. Is it still a custom kit or can you buy the grand am one now for the alero.

Plus the torque converter is not included, its extra and is another $450. At least for the ga at Domestic P.

I'd be interested in this probably around fall after the turbo is in and i have more time to save. I would definitely like to hit 300 but it all takes money and i need time to get that.

Keep me updated please. This is something i'd be interested in later on.

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by StealthAlero+Feb 24 2004, 07:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (StealthAlero @ Feb 24 2004, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-springs fastest alero@Feb 25 2004, 01:20 AM
I'll prolly be going to pick mine up/install because it will cost me less in gas getting there than shipping.
then we will know on the spot if things need to be changed and I'll know ecactly how to install one.
So how long are we talking about, when are you driving there? [/b][/quote]
hopfully soon
just depends on cash flow
things are tight right now
I dont exactly have 3k laying arround :(

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by SweetAlero99@Feb 25 2004, 11:49 AM
i gotta feeling htere are gonna be alot of cooked trannies once people start installin this monster.

be carful dude...... turkey ur doin the smart thing and doin ur tranny at the same time. good idea
everyone says this but how many have actually busted a trans???
homegrown blew his engine and his trans is still ok.
key is this
trans cooler, a tune or auto trans to firm things up, and never change the fluid no matter what.
the only one I knwo of to destroy this trans changed the fliud and thats when it started to slip.
mine has seen 10psi of boost, 75 shot, 100 shot, 50hp in bolt ons and still shifts great with almost 70k on it.
this trans needs more credit than people give it.
you guys act like just over stock power and your screwed.
considering what my trans has been through, its pretty strong

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by Pimpalero03@Feb 25 2004, 10:37 AM
it would be tight havin a turbo'd 3400 but not sure its worth all that money and voiding of warrenty.
screw the warranty! :P

[StealthAlero]

Good thats re-assuring to hear. Because i plan on turning it up to 10 lbs. And with the alki kit, it should be able to handle it no problem.

[jturkey69]

alerosince99.......thats what i mean...i have a gagt trans in the garage waiting for whatever, but if they can succesfully change toms gears to 3.69 and spoof the puter perfect, then it doesnt matter what trans i use

john...tom says his is slippin here and there, and his hasnt seen the extended abuse yours has,

stealth....the reason for all the price ranges , and the torque converter seperate is because some people have interest in only a few things, like the torque converterr, or input shaft and clutch packs, etc.

[Final-Reality]

Your trannies should be ok, I bet they hold up pretty well to somewhere close to 300HP/300ft-lbs... just don't go flooring out around corners to make sure the diff. doesnt grenade (definately the weakest point in the tranny) and you should be good....

[dopey]

prove me wrong then john!!

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by SweetAlero99@Feb 25 2004, 09:34 PM
prove me wrong then john!!
70,000 miles 75 shot, sc, sc +35 shot, 75shot, 100 shot isint enough proof?
my car has seen some type of forced induction 75% of its natural life
mike in denver ran 15 psi on his alero. what broke? the pistons
homegrown ran his car hard too, what gave? somthing in the engine
what more do ya need man?
show me the numorus numbers of people that have blown it then.

not only that but nitrous is much harder on your trans than turbo or sc.
I'm making .6 hp shy of 300 ft/lbs at the wheels on a 75 shot
seriously yes the trans does need help. but it will hold up to more than people give it credit for.
I'm honestly more worried about my stock engine parts than my trans

[overdrive75]

The 4T45E is a stout transmission, John is right. I have seen some things hooked to this transmission that would really change your way of thinking on it. Currently the weekest link is the direct clutch assembly, not the diff.

[Alerosince99]

Just to get a consenus on this.

You can get the turbo first and the tranny will be fine 250-300whp. If you plan on consistently being at or over 300whp then we should be looking to upgrade the tranny and engine internals? By engine internals do you mean forged pistons and rods or is it in regards to the valve train and springs? In my case I have alot of things being changed on the engine already and might as well upgrade the rest if it something Ill be needing to do in the future.

[Crazy_Canuck]

I'd suggest a good engine balancing rather than the tranny. The tranny will take more abuse, but once you start putting more pressure on the engine, it's crucial to ensure it's in balance and that you have parts that can stand up to the additional stress.

[jturkey69]

well as far as engine internals go.....
1st the pistons...for the turbo you should be runnin a deeper dish..cr should be at 8.5:1...this is the best for the turbo,
2nd...rods...go to a better set like forged h-beams, i forget who all makes them, but i know scat does too
3rd....crank....even though this should be the weakest point because of the split throw journals, the powdered metal rods are goona give before the crank does, only thing id do for the crank is cryo treat it. it doesnt really pay to have the edges knifed, and filled with mallory metal..too expensive
4th...valvetrain...pushrods, rockers, valves, and screw in studs

granted all these things above are for going above 12psi constantly, i think out of all these i would most want new pistons to lower the cr, which keeps some stress off the rods

[Alerosince99]

I had been planning to order new rods and pistons. Having never order anything like this before what info do you think they will be looking from me. Ie engine type and what compression or will they want more than that?

[overdrive75]

Remember it is the torque that is going to kill the trans, well hp will to but not to the extent that torque can. If the wheels slip, then you can never get to peak torque. If you are staying under 300 hp you should be fine.

[Alerosince99]

nevermind on the what info is needed for the custom forged rods and pistons. Found that info of JEpistons oder sheet.

[dopey]

Originally posted by springs fastest alero+Feb 26 2004, 02:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (springs fastest alero @ Feb 26 2004, 02:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-SweetAlero99@Feb 25 2004, 09:34 PM
prove me wrong then john!!
70,000 miles 75 shot, sc, sc +35 shot, 75shot, 100 shot isint enough proof?
my car has seen some type of forced induction 75% of its natural life
mike in denver ran 15 psi on his alero. what broke? the pistons
homegrown ran his car hard too, what gave? somthing in the engine
what more do ya need man?
show me the numorus numbers of people that have blown it then.

not only that but nitrous is much harder on your trans than turbo or sc.
I'm making .6 hp shy of 300 ft/lbs at the wheels on a 75 shot
seriously yes the trans does need help. but it will hold up to more than people give it credit for.
I'm honestly more worried about my stock engine parts than my trans [/b][/quote]
i wasnt bein a dick (for once) when i made my previous statement. im just sayin..... get that turbo in and turn her up...... cause i hope everything does hold up.....

[Final-Reality]

Do you have an oil cooler on the tranny? That's probably one of the best and easiest steps to making sure it lives a long life...

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by SweetAlero99@Feb 26 2004, 10:59 AM

i wasnt bein a dick (for once) when i made my previous statement. im just sayin..... get that turbo in and turn her up...... cause i hope everything does hold up.....
lol
I know.
I'm just saying I've allready put this trans through hell.
but on the down side a friend of mine with virturally no mods is haivng trans troubles. go figure....
I think you guys are more excited to get this on my car than me.
if it will hold 100 shot it will hold boost.
but I'll see what it does.
of course I'll have everything for the manual swap before going sick ;)
just got my builder 3400 today.
75 bux and an intake for an S-10
not a bad deal. B)

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by Final-Reality@Feb 28 2004, 08:09 AM
Do you have an oil cooler on the tranny? That's probably one of the best and easiest steps to making sure it lives a long life...
one of my cars first mods

[StealthAlero]

Oil Cooler? Anyone want to elaborate for me...

[overdrive75]

Originally posted by StealthAlero@Feb 28 2004, 11:34 PM
Oil Cooler? Anyone want to elaborate for me...
They are refering to an auxiliar transmission fluid (oil) cooler. The car comes with a trans cooler in the tank on the cool side of the radiator, but these guys I want to say have installed an additional cooler in between the radiator and the trans.

So the fluid flow should be, I am not sure how these people have it set up. The correct install, following fluid flow, would be transmission trans fluid out, radiator, then aux. cooler, then back to the transmission.

[kwhauck]

UPDATE about turbo chargers!!!! i read on GAGT.com that a guy dynoed the hp performance turbo along with a DHP tuned computer chip, y pipe, borla exhaust, i think that's it, anyways, at 9 psi he got 264hp and 28 lbs/ft torque, pretty sweet imo

[Final-Reality]

264HP and only 28lbs-ft of torque? Holy crap! What RPM was he turning to make that much HP then? 20,000? :D

[dopey]

Originally posted by springs fastest alero@Feb 28 2004, 10:10 PM
of course I'll have everything for the manual swap before going sick ;)

i hate u ;)

[Alerosince99]

264HP and only 28lbs-ft of torque? Holy crap! What RPM was he turning to make that much HP then? 20,000?


:lol:

[kwhauck]

whoops my bad, 284 lbs/ft of torque

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by SweetAlero99+Feb 29 2004, 01:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SweetAlero99 @ Feb 29 2004, 01:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-springs fastest alero@Feb 28 2004, 10:10 PM
of course I'll have everything for the manual swap before going sick ;)

i hate u ;) [/b][/quote]
:P if you knew what I'm getting the stuff for you would really hate me
I'm on a broke mans budget :(

found a few transmissions for under $200

[StealthAlero]

Alright so 2 or 3 people ordered these i believe, has anyone recieved theirs yet? I want to know if this dam thing fits :wacko:

[Naich]

its not ready yet.

[StealthAlero]

What do you mean its not ready yet, i thought they had 3 or 4 kits left on their shelves, when will it be ready?

[Alerosince99]

The only test car has been a grand am gt. You could order it now at your own risk as it hasnt been tested on an alero. John is going to be the alero test car. More than likely everything will fit. Then its a matter of getting dhp to tune the pcm for it.

[StealthAlero]

ohh i know that no ones tested it out yet and john is working with them and DHP is putting off the chip til next year if that. I was just wondering if the author of this thread who ordered the kit installed it yet?

[-Alero-]

i had a question for the 3400 turbocharger. does it give you 220 hp or does it bring you from 170 to 220? cause if its only giving you 50 hp in a turbo charger thats kinda low..... but whos complaining :D

[Alerosince99]

The 220 is whp. So it wouldnt be 220-170 it would be 220-140. The 3400 is about 140 whp stock. That is about an 80 hp gain at only 5#s of boost. The test car has it turned up around 9#'s of boost and is at about 268 whp and 284 torque. At about 12#s he should be over 300 whp and torque. This would be about 160 whp over stock and over 140 torque over stock.

[b-spot]

Originally posted by StealthAlero@Mar 8 2004, 01:26 AM
220hp add on r u joking. We aren't running twin-turbo supras here.
Um wow.. first of all, twin turbos don't make your car faster. The first turbo is a smaller turbo used to spool up faster and reduce turbo lag. If you want to make a supra faster you actually GET RID of the twin turbos and put one big ass one.

You are just making yourself look like a fool man.

[misslindseysue]

LOL. You could have two big turbos, like one for each bank of a V-8 like my coworker's husband has on his Corvette. That just makes fitting them under the hood easier though. But on a Supra, yeah, that first turbo just makes it feel fast off the line. That's the way my dad's Volvo is.

[StealthAlero]

First off, putting a turbo on an alero that boosted 220whp would be almost impossible, because after everything part you replaced, it would not be an alero anymore, more of a custom car. Like is the srt-4 a neon? And if you really don't know srt-4s don't answer.


And B-spot, like you've stated, yes most "HIGH-PERFORMANCE" Tuners will swap out the twin turbos and upgrade to 1. But the point i was trying to make is that the average turbo upgrade will not bring you 220whp unless your running a supercar like the supra, which most twin turbo kits will boost to for them. Although this is not saying that 1 turbo is neccessarily better then 2. Its more of an opinion. What you want, faster spool, more power, better powerband. The more popular choice is the single for the supra, but you get my point. I'm not the fool here, don't be so ignorant when reading my posts and assuming I'm so dumb.

.

[Final-Reality]

Probably, nothing useful has been said here for 5 pages :ph34r:

Also, 220HP at the wheels at 5psi? I call a big bullpoop on that... but hey if it's proven to be true than it's damned impressive.

[StealthAlero]

if your talking about HPs turbo kit, yeah they did dyno it at 220hp @ 5psi. I guess the grand am that put this kit on, is going to be running 10psi pretty soon. Try the GAGT for more info.

[Alerosince99]

Also, 220HP at the wheels at 5psi? I call a big bullpoop on that... but hey if it's proven to be true than it's damned impressive.


Well it may have been 6psi. ;) If John is willing to put this on his car there must be a reason. :)

Im sure well get a good idea of true whp once John has it installed. I expect his car will put down better numbers than the test ga. Guess we will know soon enough.

[springs fastest alero]

I guess I can cut it back to 6 psi to check
the exhaust on his car was not stock but I dont think anyone would put on a trubo and leave the exhaust stock.


StealthAlero, only a couple inches shorter? well is 6 or so is a couple then yea.
you can tell by looking that there is a difference in length.

220 extra from a turbo is cake
we make 140 stock
220 extra is then 360
I'll be closer to 400 at the wheels when done.
I've seen our stock engine take 13-15 lbs properly tunned.
imagine what a built engine would do with a trans that will hold it as well.

I remember a time not so long ago when you barely knew anything about this car either. and as for the flaming you in a thread... maybe you should take your own advise after starting the whole flame session in this thread.
I"ll leave this up for a little while then edit and delete as needed.

[dopey]

Originally posted by StealthAlero@Mar 8 2004, 08:33 PM
And for you sweetalero99, do i really know alot about cars? Well maybe not as much as you about vinyl cut outs and clearing corners or all the other things you think makes you more of an expert then me, but yes i do know a few things.

Unlike your sorry attitude, that has no other life then to just stay on here 24/7 and post negative comments to anyone who comes around.

But that doesn't give you the right to make fun of everyones rides, all you have to say is "it aint my style" and thats it. Your vinyl and rims aren't my style, but i don't bash on you unless you bash me first
ok first........... i invite u go go back and try to find one since post where i said something about ur car......... actually ill save u the time cuase ive never critizised ur car.

as for my sorry attitude of sitting on her 24/7....... actually i have a full time job and on top of that...... well i went and had sex with my girlfriend tonight..... and im just now responding to ur pm at 3am est.... so i cant be on 24/7.... just seems like that cause all my posts make points.

next.... i dont rip on everyones rides...... i give plenty of compliments.... but no1 remebers those posts.... just the negative ones. and who are u to tell me how to respond to peoples posts. dont be a hipocrit after u basically made fun of that alero kid for askin his question in this thread.

and finally u say u dont understand why u are treated they way u are........ and ill tell u this.... it all started back in they day when u joined this site..... u tried to act like u were gonna save the alero community and u were gonna get this body kit made and that turbo kit and so on and so forth. rubbed alotta people the wrong way..... that and along with the fact that u obvsiouly really dont know much about cars.... well some people jsut dont like that attitude.... just as some people dont like mine.

u can say whatever u want about me...... i dont care...... but atleast i dont act like an ignorant fool like u do 99% of the time.

[-Alero-]

ok wow i guess i apologize for being interested in the car i drive. i just want to be unique. and this is the first car ive ever owned in my life, and i wanna make it stand out. im sorry if i ask dumb questions here and there. its just cause i dont know. and alll that stuff on my signature, is stuff i want, not stuff i can afford, its not like im gonna buy everything all in one day. at my rate i can only assume i'd get half the things done to my car that i want in over a year.....i never cared about price cause, im willing to divote alot of time to this car, because i care for it. and sorry if i had plans and ideas for my car.... :( pshh

[springs fastest alero]

Dispite prior warnings a certan somone couldn't keep things civil.
thread has been edited for content. if it gets off topic agian I will lock it.

[StealthAlero]

Just asking again, has anyone who ordered their kit installed it yet? It seems like the author of this thread, bought his and never came back on. Hum....

[TrickedAlero]

i have got the turbocharger it came 2 days ago.....but im going on vacation but when i get back i will have it installed and up with pics....

it will installed in april

[King Asoka]

^cant wait!!

[wy3134]

Hey trickedalero, im from indy too, let me see it when u get done and where u have work done, im lookin at turbo in the near future as well. Thanks and good luck!

[BatmanSade]

New to the site but the turbo topic intrigues me. I havent done any performance enhancement yet but I plan on it in the future, I'd like to know how it works out for you guys.

[StealthAlero]

EDIT: Probably shouldn't have posted all that info yet. I'll repost it if everything is a go for sure.

[wy3134]

Please keep us updated on that, thats some good news!sure will be nice if there is a kit that has the reprogram with it, hopefully if that works out then perhaps something can be looked into for the ecotec....which is what Im researching right now...

[StealthAlero]

Well i'm awaiting to talk with HPP to see if it is a go, but you'll want to talk to springs..... because he'll be the guy caring all this stuff soon i hope.

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by StealthAlero@Apr 4 2004, 06:42 PM
but you'll want to talk to springs..... because he'll be the guy caring all this stuff soon i hope.
:thumbsup:

[jturkey69]

yeah...for how much

[springs fastest alero]

after the intro price is over you will se them on my site
pricing depends on what hp allows me to do

[jturkey69]

after the intro..the price would raise to 3995.00 from HP

[wy3134]

Just popped into my head, will there be different stages? or upgrades to the kit? I know this is still early in the process but if theres a chance HP can have a turbo kit for the ecotec then I would love to throw them into the mix of turbo kits im looking at...perhaps we can even get numbers of what these turbos will withstand psi wise or Horsepower wise?

[jturkey69]

for your eco-tec, you should e-mail hahn racecraft....i dont think they have up-dated their site yet, but they always put out kits that make power

[StealthAlero]

Well just recieved emails back from both HPP and DHP.

HPP- says they would love to talk with me when i get down there on custom fitting the turbo onto the alero. Which i'm very psyced about, hopefully we can get this thing goin for john alot quicker. I would still like to talk to them about that intercooler, i don't like the 2 inch piping hanging out the bottom, but hopefully it fits better on the alero. We'll see.

DHP- says that for tuning, they don't have an ICCU out for the alero yet so you have to go to chicago to get the turbo tuned, at least from them, which is not a possibility for me, so that sucks. But if someone does have time to stop by roswell and chicago, that'd be sweet. Anyone up for a road trip over summer? :P

So thats were i'm at. I could make it down there around late june/ early july but i wouldn't do it unless i knew that it would be tuned. So.....

My head is starting to spin like crazy :wacko: from all this research from gagt and the emails and the chatting with john. You gotta give him alotta credit, it aint easy getting this shiz together.

[jturkey69]

John didnt put this together...Tom McGill did

[StealthAlero]

yeah tom put it together for the grand am but did little for the aleros, yes he does deserve alot of credit for getting this whole dhp/hpp thing going for the grand am guys. But the alero is a whole nother story.

Anyways- DHP sent me another email saying the only other way to get the PCM tuned without taking my car to Chicago is to pay to fly them to come to roswell :lol: thats a good one. Anyone else have any other ideas.

[jturkey69]

i sent them 2 e-mails about fitting it to my alero way before john contacted them, but since hes working a dealership with them, i havent heard from then since <_<

[jturkey69]

well i found out why Tom at HP never got back to me.,...they had a major computer crash back in late jan early feb when i was in contact with them, so thats why i havent heard anything....Tom also said ther is someone in arizona with an alero that is working on wanting to get it fit, but either way it will fit anyways....so now ther are only 2 kits left...then the price goes up to 3495 not 3995 like i posted earlier because they are including a tune

[StealthAlero]

:D I told them i would be in arizona come late june/ early july. I don't move til mid june. But yes i should be able to make a drive over there. At the very least we can test fit, i don't know whats going to happen with the tuning.

[wy3134]

Im just curious who these two companies are that are willing to do these tunes for you guys...if one is located in chicago id like to get in contact with them about doing a custom for me for my 2.2L ecotec turbo setup next winter...appreciate the info, thanks !

[springs fastest alero]

gtprix on grandamgt.com can tune an eco

[StealthAlero]

updates???

[StealthAlero]

BUMP!!! Still no news?

[FormulaNERD]

this thread is no different than any other. people get all these ideas, "order" parts, promise pics in 2 days, and disappear.

[Sportalero]

planting ideas..................making promises..................then nothing.....................

Sounds like a girl i used to date.


HEY, A "BLUE BALLS" THREAD :lol: :lol: :lol:

[springs fastest alero]

Originally posted by Sportalero@Jun 5 2004, 04:51 PM



HEY, A "BLUE BALLS" THREAD :lol: :lol: :lol:
lol good one :D :P :popcorn:

[StealthAlero]

Well i just got a new stock tranny on the alero, the old one was slipping which kind of makes me worry about the turbo kit. I have the money now, but i think i might be dropping out of this project. I move to phoenix on the 23rd of this month, but with school starting up i can't afford to not have my car, so.... sorry guys. I thought i'd have more time, to get this done while i'm down there but i don't. And especially with gas prices, its $2.50 for premium there. I can't afford to be racing around right now, gotta focus on living expensives and school.

[kou5oku]

<<<THREAD JACK>>>

Phoenix huh? nice. I live here.

Lots of flat open roads.. vroom vroom

hit me up with a PM when you move.

Peace.