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germ
06-09-2005, 05:42 PM
stats.....

7psi

this run was done after about an hour in traffic on the way to the bank after work today (not even 30 mins ago)

temp is roughly 90* outside right now (wtf :blink: )

so the engine and car was REALLY warm, lol and probably heat soaked, but you get the point....

i also changed my 2-3 shift point down a couple mph from what it was before. i am trying to figure out a good point for the shift since i have 3.29 gears and the car came stock with 3.33's. so there is a few things that i have to work out to figure out a good point to shift at.


0mph-roughly 85mph.

hope you like....

http://www.donkeypunchperformance.com/video/wot.avi

12mb

SilverBullet256
06-09-2005, 11:53 PM
did you have it punched?, cause i noticed that you went from 0-60 in about 8 seconds, 7 psi should be able to do that alot quicker than that shouldnt it?, im not saying you are wrong or your car sucks or anything, dont mean anything against you, i am just saying that it seems like i should be more, maybe you just dont have it floored

Spilner521
06-10-2005, 01:07 AM
how can you tell? you can't see the speedo at all and he stated it was roughly 0-85. to me that looks pretty damn quick. nice video!

SilverBullet256
06-10-2005, 02:11 AM
im watching it on winamp and i paused it right when it hit 60 and it was at 8 seconds, but like i said i may be off, and im not saying his car is bad or weak or wrong, im just saying it doesnt make sence

germ
06-10-2005, 09:53 AM
you cant go by what the time is on the media player device you use. because if you look at the vid, i dont start moving until a couple secs after it starts.

and it was "punched", but only after i hit about 10mph, otherwise the tires can/will go up in smoke if there is the slightest bit of traction loss.

i basically eased into the throttle until it was on the floor.

if you notice on the vid, you can see how the steering wheel is moving back and forth. that was me trying to steer out of the traction loss that was starting to happen. once the traction gripped, then i stomped on the gas.

and remember what i said about the heat. it is a killer on the low end! and it has been a really odd last week. rain for 4 hours, and then the sun pop out, reaches 85-90* with 100% humidity.

its not a good scenerio for racing or going fast. but i had a lot of people buggin for a daytime vid.

maybe i can get a better one at night when it has cooled off or a cool summer day will happen soon, hahaha.

germ
06-10-2005, 09:57 AM
oh yea, and you cant judge my mph gauge and rpm gauge at this point. remember i have 3.29 gearing now, and the pcm is set for 3.33 and since there is no way for me to change the gear ratio in the 96 PCM's due to there not being a table for that option, then i have to control the shifts by doing a mathmatical equation of under/over reporting by the speed sensors.

so basically, the mph gauge that you "see" is from an underreported mph. so if the gauge says 60, its really ~62, and now add in they fact that you speed up faster than you gauge can means that your actually doing a lot faster than you see on your dash.

thats why you cant take a stopwatch out and go 0-60 and think its going to be accurate.

Vtolds
06-10-2005, 10:48 AM
Good Video, have you ever thought of making something to hold your camera for you? a guy on cardomain made a thing that bolts around the top of the passenger seat to hold his camera. I'll try to find it.

Well I found something similiar.

http://willhinchman.com/john/focus/cammount/P1010107.JPG
http://willhinchman.com/john/focus/cammount/P1010105.JPG

funny ones
http://www.jimzachary.com/racing/10.17.04/track.zr.camera.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/vacantskies88/DSC02438small.jpg

germ
06-10-2005, 11:08 AM
i have considered making a camara mount, but i havent really had the time to even think about a design, however, that angle bar idea. shoudnt be to hard to make and it would work with the monte's headrest. i dont know how stable it would be though.

only a couple bucks to try. we shall see what this weekend has in store for me.

jturkey69
06-10-2005, 11:29 AM
lovin the sound of it...dam i cant wait for boost

Crolero
06-10-2005, 11:30 AM
i think media player is going crazy, cant see any of the vids, only sound.....

C:\Format :)

germ
06-10-2005, 11:42 AM
update your media player or download the newest version with all codecs

-Alero-
06-10-2005, 04:36 PM
hey Germ how many miles are on that 3.4 motor? and ddint you say you wanted to run 15 psi on that motor with stock internals? if so thats pretty impressive

germ
06-10-2005, 09:46 PM
there is probably around 100k on the engine now.

i got her with 56k and i have put close to 40k on her since she has been in


and yes, the goal is 15psi, completely stock block/crank/pistons/crank/rods/etc.....

and reving to 6200 is the goal too.




when i first put the turbo and stuff on i have gotten "crazy" a couple times and hit 15 psi

once i hit 20psi

that was a very interesting 15 secs i had then.

-Alero-
06-12-2005, 03:24 AM
and you said all you did was replaces some gaskets with copper gaskets. so what bothers me is, why everyone is leery about running 9 psi?

germ
06-13-2005, 09:08 AM
actually, im not using copper gaskets.


i have a set of graphite gaskets with the steel mesh interwooven in it.


and i believe the only reason why i had blown gaskets before is due to a warped head and misfire due to a bad injector or something. *knock on wood* but i havent had any issues lately and feel pretty comfortable running to 12psi or more. i stay around 10psi for normal everyday fun. 12+ is freaking insane sometimes, lol. and with the way the weather has been lately, ive kept her around 7-9psi. its been really hot and humid lately and i dont like to push it to hard when its like this.

its kinda cool that i dont have to worry about tuning each time i up the boost since i have allready have it set up for 13 psi.

anything over 13 psi will require use of a larger maf sensor due to outflowing the stock one at 13'ish psi. you can run higher than 13 psi and the computer will go command the last values on the maf sensor table only(11,500). its not like the maf shuts off if you out flow it. however the further you go past the last value the leaner and leaner you get, so its really a game of chance.

as for why people are scared to run past 7-9 psi are probably still on a stock tune and stock injectors. im using the DHP Powertuner and very large fuel injectors (42.5#) so i am able to play around at a higher boost level and not worry about fuel needs as much as some one else that uses a FMU or an AFPR only.

-Alero-
06-13-2005, 06:03 PM
wow, my mistake on the gasket thing i knew you had something. but thats good info to know.

slowandlow
06-20-2005, 01:25 AM
nice the olny thing that would be better is a 5 speed and some more power. i was driveing a twin turbo stealth all week man that thing is fun. very fast 130+ in 3rd gear

-Alero-
06-20-2005, 04:49 AM
a twin turbo stealth!? they dont make twin turbo stealths........unless its a VR-4 (3000gt) or a motor swap from a VR-4 to a stealth.

germ
06-20-2005, 08:46 AM
stock stealths and 3000gt's dont have anything on me.

ive handled both from rolls, 20mph to around 115mph.

never raced one from a dig though.

however the races were close.

-Alero-
06-20-2005, 08:47 AM
well arent you a lucky fellow :popcorn: :pimp:















:cry:

slowandlow
06-20-2005, 12:31 PM
they did make the twin turbo stealth from 1990-1995 and the vr4 till 1999. maybe you can keep up witg a base stealth but not a turboed one. it is not a drag car but can beat mustangs with ease

germ
06-20-2005, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by slowandlow@Jun 20 2005, 11:31 AM
maybe you can keep up witg a base stealth but not a turboed one. it is not a drag car but can beat mustangs with ease
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if you are refering to what i said about beating a steath/3000gt, you might want to check out what i have done before you automatically assume that i can only hang with a base stealth.


dodge stealth (stock) times...
1991 Dodge Stealth ES 15.6
1991 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo 14.5
1992 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo 14.2

mitsu 3000gt (stock)
1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT SL 16.4
1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 13.8
1992 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 14.3
1993 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 14.0
1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 14.2
1995 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 13.5
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 13.6



they are NOT that quick IMO

-Alero-
06-21-2005, 12:42 AM
Originally posted by slowandlow@Jun 20 2005, 12:31 PM
they did make the twin turbo stealth from 1990-1995 and the vr4 till 1999. maybe you can keep up witg a base stealth but not a turboed one. it is not a drag car but can beat mustangs with ease
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are you sure? :huh: hmmmmmmm im positive they made a turbo stealth but not too positive on the twinturbo stealth......... :dontknow:

brim
06-22-2005, 11:46 AM
stealth and 3000 were the same aside from cosmetics if i remember

stealth 94 put out

Base Number of Cylinders: 6
Base Engine Size: 3 liters
Base Engine Type: V6
Horsepower: 320 hp
Max Horsepower: 6000 rpm
Torque: 315 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 2500 rpm
Drive Type: AWD

stealth

Base Number of Cylinders: 6
Base Engine Size: 3 liters
Base Engine Type: V6
Horsepower: 320 hp
Max Horsepower: 6000 rpm
Torque: 315 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 2500 rpm
Drive Type: AWD

and I too could have sworn both motors had a TT option, or at least I know they did it to a bunch of em

brim
06-22-2005, 11:56 AM
http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=1...rdist=78#vdptop (http://autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=183875290&dealer_id=56437057&car_year=1998&make=MIT&distance=200&lang=en&max_price=&model=3000GT&end_year=2006&min_price=&certified=&address=02886&search_type=both&advanced=&start_year=1993&isp=y&cardist=78#vdptop)

slowandlow
06-29-2005, 01:35 AM
they are pleny fast
top speed 178 mph stock
130 in 3rd gear
all wheel drive all wheel stearing
ajustable suspenshon
i have a wai and a new bov and boost controller. we are talking 400+hp and that is @14psi vs 12 stock. if i want to go higher i have to replace the intercoolers and pluming due to the fact the intake pluming will fail at the y conector @16 psi due to plastic pipeing.i have 200k on the car i got it @90k for 12k olny drawback tires cost 1k per set and tuneup cost 1k and clutck 1k a few others fixes but a great car. i have to determine when i need to rebuld the motor if it is worth it. caues i will need a full drive train rebuld i am getting some slack in it. but i figure i will make it to 250-300k befor i need to rebuld it.

kwhauck
06-29-2005, 02:25 AM
germ..........not too shabby.......you only make me want my boost even more.......

germ
06-29-2005, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by turbo-alero@Jun 29 2005, 01:25 AM
germ..........not too shabby.......you only make me want my boost even more.......
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wait for the next video compelation

:pimp:

germ
06-29-2005, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by slowandlow@Jun 29 2005, 12:35 AM
they are pleny fast
top speed 178 mph stock
130 in 3rd gear
all wheel drive all wheel stearing
ajustable suspenshon
i have a wai and a new bov and boost controller. we are talking 400+hp and that is @14psi vs 12 stock. if i want to go higher i have to replace the intercoolers and pluming due to the fact the intake pluming will fail at the y conector @16 psi due to plastic pipeing.i have 200k on the car i got it @90k for 12k olny drawback tires cost 1k per set and tuneup cost 1k and clutck 1k a few others fixes but a great car. i have to determine when i need to rebuld the motor if it is worth it. caues i will need a full drive train rebuld i am getting some slack in it. but i figure i will make it to 250-300k befor i need to rebuld it.
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not saying your not plenty quick but ill summerized what i just read....

top speed doesnt matter in the 1/4
awd helps with the launch but doesnt help after that
suspension is for the twisties not so much for the 1/4
wai really does nothing but sounds cool
bov really does nothing but sounds cool
and the boost controller only allows you to up the boost. and 2psi is roughly 20-50 max hp gain at the crank, and stock is between 300-320 horsepower. so 400+ for those mods are little far fetched IMO.


as for your price tag, thats not bad for that car really, wish i had 12,000 to play with, their would be an 11sec monte running around, lol

teebo7
06-29-2005, 11:32 AM
Germ did you ever post pics of your turbo installed? just curious

germ
06-29-2005, 11:53 AM
yes, pics have been posted before, and on my cardomain site, which is getting updated so they are not there anymore, but i think i have attached a few pictures on a few other threads.

-Alero-
06-29-2005, 07:31 PM
hey germ is that car your daily driver?

germ
06-30-2005, 08:17 AM
yes it is, i have no other car, lol

the body has almost 206,000 miles on it. i bought it 5 years ago with 56,000 miles.