2.4L turbos

[j{}n]

what was that website that had turbos made specifically for the 2.4L alero? i believe they had a pic of silent's car with the *** kit on that specific page. thank you to anyone who helps :thumbsup:

[Oldsman]

that was exploited racing

http://www.exploitedracing.com/

[aleropimp1]

hey if i just got a turbo manifold would it give me any horse power or do i need the kit

[j{}n]

wait, do they not make it for the alero anymore?

[AnderbrA]

turbo mani is to attach the turbo...so yeah you need the kit.

[Oldsman]

the cav kit will fit. he just redid he website

[mrpute]

Check out this thread for pics of the 2.4 LD9 manifold:

http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=46&i=31310&t=31310

I just purchased a 2.4 manifold for my Cavalier and an Ecotec manifold for my Alero from Exploited Racing. The quality of the them is absolutely amazing. Brian who owns Exploited has been in the business for almost two years now. His first batch of manifolds ever made were horribly welded and were fabricated out of cast iron conduit. The new manifolds I believe are MIG welded and use marine grade stainless steel. Since Brian has been doing this for two years now, his welding abilities have vastly improved. Lots of guys in my j-body club have Brian's manifold and have not seen any problems develop with them.

[Oldsman]

actually Brian, TIG welds them now. a lot better weld. stronger and less warpage. so you will get a little better flow.

[mrpute]

You're right. My bad

[Silentalero]

well guys this summer (if time and money lets me) Im going to be doing a full stage 3 turbo setup from exploitracing, and since he's in WI im going up there personally.

Ill have dyno's n whatnot because ive decided to keep the 2.4L and work with it. So after i get it tuned n whatnot ill give ya guys some stats

[Final-Reality]

Be sure to take lots of pics if you do it silent :)

[brad_galles16]

Would it be best to get a turbo charger or to just buy a new v6 engine?? Thanks. How much hp would I get with the turbo charger??

[Silentalero]

turbo is dyno'd at 190hp and alot cheaper than a v6 swap.

[j{}n]

Originally posted by Silentalero@Jan 21 2004, 07:11 PM
turbo is dyno'd at 190hp and alot cheaper than a v6 swap.
wait, that's not an additional 190hp, is it? or is that including the stock 150hp?
gee marc, you get that, and you might be able to pull all of your weight fast enough to compete with a stocker :rolleyes: :lol:

[Silentalero]

/\ htats what im thinking, lol

[Fast Eddie]

Originally posted by Silentalero@Jan 21 2004, 01:11 PM
turbo is dyno'd at 190hp and alot cheaper than a v6 swap.
IMO that is hella weak, esp for a stage 3 setup. Only like 35 HP over stock :wacko:

[`2000redalero]

Anyone wanna just give me like $2000 ? :P

[kwicslvr]

Originally posted by Fast Eddie+Jan 22 2004, 02:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Fast Eddie @ Jan 22 2004, 02:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Silentalero@Jan 21 2004, 01:11 PM
turbo is dyno'd at 190hp and alot cheaper than a v6 swap.
IMO that is hella weak, esp for a stage 3 setup. Only like 35 HP over stock :wacko: [/b][/quote]
The question should be is if that is 190whp. If so that would be a huge increase in power. Even if it isn't it is a 40 hp gain which isn't bad for a car starting at 150hp. Almost a 30% increase.

[Final-Reality]

The problem is the pistons and rods in the 2.4 are relatively weak, so you can't turn up the boost too high without replacing those parts because they will break. 10psi is probably the max you should go if you want a stock 2.4 to last any length of time.

If you port & polish your head and/or add more aggressive cams, and/or add a less restrictive exhaust system and/or intake, then you can increase the horsepower significantly without spending as much as you would tearing down the engine and replacing the pistons/rods and bearings, since all those things help increase airflow. And when you upgrading those items (head, cams, intake & exhaust) when the engine is under boost, the increase in power is more dramatic than if your engine were naturally aspirated...

[Oldsman]

stage 3 kit would be 190 whp. but that would be with an intercooler. there are guys running 6lbs dynoing at 190 whp.

but yea, 10 psi would be max on stock internals.

[Fast Eddie]

Originally posted by Oldsman@Jan 8 2004, 11:40 PM
actually Brian, TIG welds them now. a lot better weld. stronger and less warpage. so you will get a little better flow.
actually on SS MIG welding is stronger than TIG.

[Fast Eddie]

Originally posted by kwicslvr+Jan 22 2004, 01:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kwicslvr @ Jan 22 2004, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Fast Eddie@Jan 22 2004, 02:31 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Silentalero@Jan 21 2004, 01:11 PM
turbo is dyno'd at 190hp and alot cheaper than a v6 swap.
IMO that is hella weak, esp for a stage 3 setup. Only like 35 HP over stock :wacko:
The question should be is if that is 190whp. If so that would be a huge increase in power. Even if it isn't it is a 40 hp gain which isn't bad for a car starting at 150hp. Almost a 30% increase. [/b][/quote]
For the money it is not a good choice, IMO. I can get 190WHP for less than 3G (i'm looking to be about 200+ for the same cost); BTW the site mentioned does NOT include an IC or AC so that adds to the cost of the kit.

[Final-Reality]

Originally posted by Fast Eddie@Jan 23 2004, 07:35 AM
I can get 190WHP for less than 3G (i'm looking to be about 200+ for the same cost);
You can get 190WHP for $200 huh? :rolleyes:

Either somebody has been lying to you, or you're buying stolen parts, or you're wrong about making anything near 190WHP for $200... that's like ~60WHP over stock, so let's hear it :)

[XistenZ]

Well, then here is a quick question for you about this...

If someone was to tear down the original engine and replace the parts, or build a 2.4 up with performance parts, what would the increase for a stage 3 kit be abouts?

Somebody I was talking with said he could probably build a 2.4 to put out almost 240 hp..(and seeing the work on his civic engine.....) and if so, what might the top speed of such be in the Alero?

Just wondering.....

[kwicslvr]

Originally posted by Fast Eddie@Jan 23 2004, 02:35 AM
For the money it is not a good choice, IMO. I can get 190WHP for less than 3G (i'm looking to be about 200+ for the same cost); BTW the site mentioned does NOT include an IC or AC so that adds to the cost of the kit.
Actually that is really good. That would be an increase of 65 fwhp. That's a 50% increase in hp at the wheels. That means you are putting out around 230 engine hp. That's above average for turbo setups and more than worth the money. The only other route to go to get that power is to run at least a 75 shot of nitrous as a minimum. Over time that will run you more than a forced induction setup.

[Oldsman]

there is 2.4 built up and running 14 - 20 lbs of boost ranging from 320whp up 400whp. depends on how much you got to spend.

[Final-Reality]

Mike Kara's on j-body.org has a built 2.4 with an H.O. intake and a mild ported head which dyno'd at 410HP and 405ft-lbs of torque when running 25psi, and he was using 93 pump octane... of course that was with no exhaust, with a full exhaust system that went down to about 360HP...

He also has a TEC2 or TEC3 system to do all the tuning, an expensive setup but I guess it paid off... :P

[Oldsman]

mike is my hero...................LOL

[Final-Reality]

Yeah... it's pretty bunnying awesome... I wonder how much all those parts cost him in total.. those are great numbers but I still want to do an ECOTEC swap because of it's growing aftermarket and it's a good bit lighter in the nose of my car, so that should help with handling...