Finnaly Got My Zex Kit

[stlalerodude03]

well i finally purchased a zex dry kit off line lasy staerday and should be her sometime this week! i currently have an intake and exhaust with msd wires...what kind of 1/4 tiem can i be looking at with a 75 shot or even a 65 shot?

[kwhauck]

i wouldn't put that big of a dry shot on your car without other modifications......you are just asking for problems.....

[stlalerodude03]

i have intkae and exhaust a 65 shot wotn be htat hard on the engine!

[wy3134]

dont get overconfident with a dry kit....better to start off with a smaller shot and work your way up...and intake and exhaust have nothing to do with how the engine reacts to the nitrous oxide, thats why so many prefer or recommend if you must get a nitrous kit to get a wet kit, that way your not just shooting nitrous into the engine, but a mix of fuel and nitrous

[kwhauck]

Originally posted by wy3134@Feb 28 2005, 05:31 PM
dont get overconfident with a dry kit....better to start off with a smaller shot and work your way up...and intake and exhaust have nothing to do with how the engine reacts to the nitrous oxide
exactly what i was gonna say..........

[b-spot]

1/4 Mile ET: DNF

:lol:

[kwhauck]

Originally posted by b-spot@Feb 28 2005, 05:35 PM
1/4 Mile ET: DNF

:lol:
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[mike2002]

^^^LOL

everyone ive talked to highly recommends wet over dry

make sure your floorpans are securly bolted, you dont want that poop flying off!! remember when paul didn't bolt his down??? and make sure you get two of the big tanks :thumbsup:

[stlalerodude03]

it come swith 3 difernt jets..ill just start off with the 55hp jet.

[wy3134]

Originally posted by mike2002@Feb 28 2005, 11:40 PM
^^^LOL

everyone ive talked to highly recommends wet over dry

make sure your floorpans are securly bolted, you dont want that poop flying off!! remember when paul didn't bolt his down??? and make sure you get two of the big tanks :thumbsup:
:lol: gotta love fast and the furious :lol:

[Travis99Alero]

let us know some times once u get it installed and take it to the track.

[stlalerodude03]

will do!

[Redog]

Hate to burst your bubble but the Zex dry kit on a GM motor will blow it up :(

Once you hit the button, or it hits WOT, (which ever way you set it up) you WILL blow the 2,4,and 6 pistons out of the back of the block. Most likely on the 3rd shot

If you're going to do nitrous on an Alero (or any other GM car) the NX wet kit is better. I've heard of guys using the NOS wet kit on Camaros and 3800 motors.

[Oldsman]

Zex has blown a lot of motors.

[mike2002]

is it ON order, or do you already have it? either cancel the order, or sell it on ebay, or some highschooler...lol (they'll buy it, just throw in some NOS stickers)

[stlalerodude03]

so ur sayign no matter what i do my engien will blow with a 55 shot! not guarntted!

[RAVAGE214]

Does anyone knwo anyhtign about this ( http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Prod.../NOSNS/GM2.html (http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/NOS/NOSNS/GM2.html) ) kits from Holley? it says its for GM 3.4 V6 passanger cars with EFI

[jackal2000]

Originally posted by RAVAGE214@Feb 28 2005, 10:25 PM
Does anyone knwo anyhtign about this ( http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Prod.../NOSNS/GM2.html (http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/NOS/NOSNS/GM2.html) ) kits from Holley? it says its for GM 3.4 V6 passanger cars with EFI
did you read the system requirements?

The system can be used on an engine with stock rods, pistons and crankshaft. However, at power levels of 140 and above, it is recommended that heavy-duty forged components be used.

thats why i would stay away from it




and stlalerodude03 PLEASE proof read your posts, you are giving me a headache. :lol:

[stlalerodude03]

u dont have to use a 140 shot
a 55 shot would be great!

[jackal2000]

Originally posted by stlalerodude03@Feb 28 2005, 10:32 PM
u dont have to use a 140 shot
a 55 shot would be great!
i guess i misinterpreted, im going back to my corner now......

[stlalerodude03]

ok dude well see ill bet money the alero can handle a 55 shot! and if not ill spend soem extra money to get forged rods and pistons....o wait those will be through my hood 10 feet away! :rolleyes:

[jwth2005]

Ok let me get this right... Nitrous+ Stock motor= Blown motor.

Nitrous and stock motors dont mix dude... No matter what you think Every time u press that lil button with ur trigger happy finger is just that much life wasted out of your motor... If you push your motor to the limit even with a 55shot. it is still possible to blow something in your motor... and then you would be whining that u need a new motor or whatever... Im not against nitrous or anything... I am against stupid peopl who put nitrous on unmodded engines and think it will run fine...


Jeremy

[stlalerodude03]

who said i wasnt gunna beef up the internals...i can get forged rods and pistons for 600 dollars,,,my car isnt stock

[stlalerodude03]

im done...dotn care what anyone else has to say abouth all this poop!

[Redog]

Use the search button and see for yourself

How many people blew the motor with a dry kit? I know that one kid in Canada did.

Let him blow it if he wants to. After this thread, when he blows his motor, he won't tell us. I don't think he understands that we are trying to help him out.

If you're going to do spray, go wet. Just think about it, You cannot shoot a 55 shot into a motor and not go too lean.

A dry shot is all air, very cold air. A GM EFI motor's PCM will make the motor go all the way lean, and then BOOM!

Yes, you spark plugs can go through the hood, if they get enough force behind them, same as your pistons.

But it's your car, do what you want

[-Alero-]

lol i mglad i wasnt dragged into this convo :lol:

[flalero]

Well, I'm getting dragged into this. There have been many people on this site that have used nitrous and not blown their motor. Whether it was a wet or dry kit, I don't know. I've heard from many people that our motors can a handle a 75 shot, if you only use it at the track. I doubt he will blow his motor, but please, don't overuse it! I've always heard a general rule for nitrous, you don't want to add more than 30% of your stock or current hp. So, with 170hp, that equals a 50shot of nitrous. Good luck man, I'm on your side on this.

and Reddog, when my car was sucking in colder air through the CAI, my AF gauge always read on the rich side, compared to when it was warm. So, I don't think the computer will lean it out too much, if at all.

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by flalero@Mar 1 2005, 12:02 AM
and Reddog, when my car was sucking in colder air through the CAI, my AF gauge always read on the rich side, compared to when it was warm. So, I don't think the computer will lean it out too much, if at all.
well nitris is a little different than your every day air. nitrous is like doubling the amount of oxygen. the car isnt really prepared to handle a very high level of air over fuel at a sudden time.

[mike2002]

Originally posted by stlalerodude03@Feb 28 2005, 11:04 PM
who said i wasnt gunna beef up the internals...i can get forged rods and pistons for 600 dollars,,,my car isnt stock
just curious, do you have those? and is 600 before install?

its not so much the nitrous that will blow your motor. people have ran nitrous with no problems, its the fact that its a DRY kit. people on this site, or others using nitrous all use a wet kit for this reason.i dont get why your willing to spend so much on beefing up the internals, when your problems could be avoided by getting a different type of kit. (which is about 500 minus selling the kit you have)

im in no way a expert about nitrous, but some of the guys who posted on this thread really know there crap about it, id listen to them

goodluck, a new 3400 should only cost you about 500 in parts on the bright side

[wy3134]

ive heard that the ecotec can handle close to half its HP level....idk if its true, not about to try though

[-Alero-]

(ahem)

[flalero]

Yeah, I agree with everyone here, wet injection is the way to go. You will have to add more fuel to keep the motor from blowing itself up. Does Zex off an upgrade?

Wait, they do offer wet kits, but not for our application. Not sure if some of these others will work.
Zex webpage (http://www.powerandperformancenews.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=ZX&Category_Code=NXW)

[ImSoBored]

Originally posted by mike2002@Mar 1 2005, 05:19 AM
just curious, do you have those? and is 600 before install?


no he doesn't. he's stock
intake and exhaust. Nothing internal.

If you blow the engine, its a tad bit late to buy forged rods and pistons

[mike2002]

i figured, i was being a little sarcastic

[Redog]

Best way to put it

"Nirtous is like a really hot woman with an STD, you wanna do it, but are afarid of the consquences" :lol:

[jwth2005]

LMAO thats good... yet so true LOL


Jeremy

[kwhauck]

Originally posted by Redog@Mar 1 2005, 11:00 AM
Best way to put it

"Nirtous is like a really hot woman with an STD, you wanna do it, but are afarid of the consquences" :lol:
everytime i have heard that quote i laugh.....so true....... :lol:

[Skiboarder311]

Arrite i got a sweet idea


People who have NEVER had nitrous on their car SHOULD NOT COMMENT ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



everytime someone brings up nitrous a buncha people that know almost nothing about it chime in and give their 2 cents


1 person off this board blew his 3400 up usin NOS

MANY others have had NO problems



I used to run a 75 shot DRY NOS kit outta my car, and i was a phuchin Button Junkie, I used to hit the button from 1000 rpm's in 1st gear, do Nitrous burnouts, and one time i held the button down for abotu 20 seconds straight (ur not suppose to do more than 10 seconds at a time)



So once again noone wants to hear about this guy u met, or ur buddy that told u about this guy he talked to, who blew his car up usin dry nitrous


If u never had it on UR car, and really don't know anything about it SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!

[Skiboarder311]

and a comment to stlalerodood

U'll be fine with a 55 dry shot dood, but there are a few precuations u can take

Hit me up on a PM and i'll tell u everything u need to know


Unlike alota peeps, I have researched it and have a very good knowledge of nitrous


and as far as quarter times, when i was runnin a 50 dry shot with only a intake and xhuast, my best run was 14.8

[RAVAGE214]

Originally posted by jackal2000+Feb 28 2005, 10:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jackal2000 @ Feb 28 2005, 10:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RAVAGE214@Feb 28 2005, 10:25 PM
Does anyone knwo anyhtign about this ( http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Prod.../NOSNS/GM2.html (http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLine/Products/NOS/NOSNS/GM2.html) ) kits from Holley? it says its for GM 3.4 V6 passanger cars with EFI
did you read the system requirements?

The system can be used on an engine with stock rods, pistons and crankshaft. However, at power levels of 140 and above, it is recommended that heavy-duty forged components be used.

thats why i would stay away from it
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I figure i can get away with just upgrading the fuel pump, im not trying to gain anywhere near 140 hp form a shot of NOS

[Oldsman]

this thread has gone south. thanks for playing.

stlalerodude03 just PM ski for the info you need.