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HAZED
11-16-2004, 12:45 PM
its easy for me to take out a engine off an a old chevy but this car man has anyone or someone know how to take it out and if i have to take it with the tranny as well??

kwhauck
11-16-2004, 12:55 PM
Step by Step Intructions

1. undo electrical poop
2. drain all fluids
3. unbolt tranny
4. yank the old engine out
5. put new one in
6. bolt tranny
7. new fluids
8. redo electrical poop

very basic, but yeah, just remember how you took it out, and be organized where you lay the pieces that are getting reused....i did the install of my new engine by myself....well and an engine lift....most mechanic work i had done before that was change my oil, you gotta learn somewhere......

HAZED
11-17-2004, 12:29 PM
i guess i just better get the hand book out but yah simple steps the only things is the tranny is it really simple to take the engine out with out the tranny...? and how many bolts are holding the engine in?

Vtolds
11-17-2004, 04:51 PM
I really have absolutly no idea what I am taking about, so please ignore me as usual.

Oldsman
11-17-2004, 06:12 PM
there is a total of 3 motor mounts and then the tranny bolts

Travis99Alero
11-17-2004, 06:32 PM
why are you planning on pulling your motor?

HAZED
11-18-2004, 02:48 AM
well the reason why i got a bad rod knocking the mechanic said b better to replace the engine then to fix it...

HAZED
12-22-2004, 08:17 PM
MAN, its been a while since i added anything to this, still waiting for tax to pay for the engine.. curios about one thing. Would be hard adding a 3400 instaed of a 2.4. i have a stock 2.4 just wondering if anyone has done it thanks :popcorn:

Vtolds
12-22-2004, 08:35 PM
Yes you would need the wiring harness, tranny, computer, and anything else that is needed I cant think of any more stuff atm.

|Rev|
12-24-2004, 05:38 PM
You would need a new ECU, wiring harness, and I'm not sure, but there might be a difference in the motor mounts.

HAZED
12-27-2004, 02:41 AM
i hade someone else look at the ride today he says its a lifter valve anyone have an idea how easy this could be to change or should i just replace the motor? :popcorn:

Oldsman
12-27-2004, 10:04 AM
lifter valve?????????? so does he mean a lifter or a valve? because either one is easy to change and even both.

Spy
12-28-2004, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by Oldsman@Nov 17 2004, 11:12 PM
there is a total of 3 motor mounts and then the tranny bolts
4.... at least on mine..

upper mount by timing chain cover, lower one by the driver's side fender, one front about I think 8 inches over from the oil filter, and a rear one.............

Vtolds
12-28-2004, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by HAZED@Dec 27 2004, 02:41 AM
i hade someone else look at the ride today he says its a lifter valve anyone have an idea how easy this could be to change or should i just replace the motor? :popcorn:
Lifter is easy just remember where you cams are so you dont mess up your timing. The Valve is alot harder seeing how you need to take the head of your off the block.

HAZED
12-29-2004, 11:51 AM
well it can be from either valves or lifters but im sure the sounds coming from the top of the engine anyone got a price for the valves and lifters. i was thinking of taking a digital movie and play it for u guys. too see if i get another idea what it is.
im going to get a tube and check were the sounds coming from.Is there a dif in sounds from the rod knocking to the valves clicking.it more like a clicking and gets louder as u rev it up

HAZED
12-30-2004, 11:16 AM
update:found a engine for the car only problem is that its a v6. cheap strong engine and its on a grand am.wondering if i can get everything i need from this car
like tranny, ecu, wrie harness...ect. hit me up i would like to know?

ShadowGuy
01-26-2005, 09:28 AM
Were you able to replace the 2.4 with the v6? If so how hard was it?

Spy
02-08-2005, 05:14 PM
just take all the stuff from the v6 car, wiring harness, pcm, engine, tranny, heater hoses, radiator hoses, and you should be good to go....

when removing the motor, it is sooooo much easier to do when you take out the radiator first.....

also I'm not sure if the a/c condensor is in the same place on the v6 as it is on the twin cam.

Super White Alero
02-08-2005, 11:59 PM
Changing from a L4 to a V6 :eek: Dude that gonna be alot of rewiring of the ECU, pressure line, cables not to mention redoing the tranny setup. Your putting yourself through alot of work. prop to you for the time and patience doing that.

Super White Alero
02-09-2005, 12:00 AM
Changing from a L4 to a V6 :eek: Dude that gonna be alot of rewiring of the ECU, pressure line, cables not to mention redoing the tranny setup. Your putting yourself through alot of work. prop to you for the time and patience doing that.

Spy
02-10-2005, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by Super White Alero@Feb 9 2005, 05:00 AM
Changing from a L4 to a V6 :eek: Dude that gonna be alot of rewiring of the ECU, pressure line, cables not to mention redoing the tranny setup. Your putting yourself through alot of work. prop to you for the time and patience doing that.
no it's not.... the pcm for the 2.4 and 3.4 is exactlythe same...

it is for the most part, get all the parts and bolt it in.

HAZED
02-11-2005, 03:58 PM
:thumbsup:

tbog 2
03-20-2005, 10:35 PM
hope every thing went.i just put a new motor in my alero 2.4 it took about two days with me and my dad working on it.

Redog
03-20-2005, 10:43 PM
Yeah everything can work if you change the PCM, ECU and all the other wiring. Make sure to get the Tranny too. The GA tranny is a bit different than an Alero's

Spy
03-20-2005, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Redog@Mar 21 2005, 03:43 AM
Yeah everything can work if you change the PCM, ECU and all the other wiring. Make sure to get the Tranny too. The GA tranny is a bit different than an Alero's
last i checked the 2.4's all used the same tranny..

the 3.4 aleros used the grand am SE model 3.4 tranny... the 3.4 grand am gt tranny is different with the final drive ratio...

Fast Eddie
03-24-2005, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by Spy+Feb 10 2005, 12:49 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Spy @ Feb 10 2005, 12:49 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Super White Alero@Feb 9 2005, 05:00 AM
Changing from a L4 to a V6 :eek: Dude that gonna be alot of rewiring of the ECU, pressure line, cables not to mention redoing the tranny setup. Your putting yourself through alot of work. prop to you for the time and patience doing that.
no it's not.... the pcm for the 2.4 and 3.4 is exactlythe same...

it is for the most part, get all the parts and bolt it in.
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ahhh a post that does not involve getting the GM S/C PCM flash so spy is confused. LOL


The PCM IS different from the 2.4 to the 3.4, hell the pinout between the J's and the n bods is even different.

And yes the 2.4's do use the same tranny but there are diff final drives and the 3.4 uses a totally different tran than the 2.4 comes with.

If you get a complete front clip you should be good to go. just need to pull the old powerplant and drop in the new one, including the equipment on the cabin side of the firewall.