Dhp Pcm On Pfyc

[1WhiteOSV]

PFYC DHP PCM FOR GRAND AM SE (http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PFYC&Product_Code=GA3010&Product_Count=17&Category_Code=GAUNDER)

Hey guys, I was just on PFYC under the Grand Am store and noticed their DHP PCM's are "now available for the SE model". I know the GT was not able to be used on the Alero, but I heard the Alero is the same thing as the GASE. The PCM is only $215 right now. Does anyone know if the DHP PCM for the grand am SE will work alright for the Alero???

[smokinAMD]

In theory, the SE one should work with the Alero. Just need to be sure the hardware number on the PCM you are getting matches the one you have in your car.

[1WhiteOSV]

So would it just be best to call DHP to make sure?

[smokinAMD]

Originally posted by 1WhiteOSV@Oct 25 2004, 02:18 PM
So would it just be best to call DHP to make sure?
Yeah, pull your PCM and say "I've got a PCM with ####### as a hardware number, I'm interested in one for my XX Alero, I noticed that PFYC is selling the GASE PCM's and In theory, that is the same thing as my Alero, What can you do for me?"

[1WhiteOSV]

hm.........since they're only reachable via Email....and i really don't wanna wait for an email response from them, does anyone know DHP's phone #?

[kou5oku]

Jason Jeross seems to be like the only employee for DHP

His phone number is 630-881-4419

I emailed him and "sales@dhp.." and he replied to both emails.



I ORDERED MY DHP ON OCTOBER 7th and was promised it would arrive on 10/19/2004. I finally recieved an email back from jason saying they are backlogged. WHOCARES?! I just spent $300+ !!!

And he wont answer my emails either.

STB.

[Youngblood77]

definately NOT cool business. <_< sorry to hear that, kou.

[kou5oku]

see yeah thats the sucky part.

I wanna bi*** this guy out and kick his ass with the B.B.B. threat. But I cant, cause he's the only one I know that can possibly tune my chip.

BUNNY

[bigd6983]

yea that sucks....sometimes they cant do anything about it being backed up, but they can do something about letting their customers know.......

but i agree....id like to know if that pcm for the grand am would bolt up with no problems.....hopefully someone can find out and post it up here.....

[Redog]

Buy the B&M shift kit. $40 and does the same for shifting anyway

[FormulaNERD]

the b&m doesnt do the same.

the dhp doesnt increase line pressure that much, and the b&m doesnt do any skipshifts.

[smokinAMD]

Also doesn't remove the speedlimiter, which is what 99% of us want the chip for.

[FormulaNERD]

yea... but i was replying to his "does the same thing for shifting anyway"

[kwhauck]

Originally posted by smokinAMD@Oct 25 2004, 09:14 PM
Also doesn't remove the speedlimiter, which is what 99% of us want the chip for.
:rolleyes: why? going that fast on the street or highway would just be plain stupid and childish IMO.......and i guarantee you don't have the mods to hit that speed limiter in the 1/4......

[1WhiteOSV]

Okay guys....I got a reply (same day I emailed..wow) from DHP. Here's what they said:

The calibrations are not the same due to instrumentation/sensor
differences.

If you want to order a pcm for your vehicle, we can do it on a custom
basis
for $215 + $100 refundable core charge + $12 shipping.

Leave me your ph # and an evening time to call.

There's the answer...period. :thumbsup:

[bigd6983]

i have the b&m shiftplus.......and i like it but i want it to be more permanent(no switch).....plus like i said earlier i want a lot of the other features as well, rev limiter, speed limiter, fan turn on....the whole package.......i wanna keep my pcm, so around 330.........see what my backpay check from ralphs is from what happened from the strike.....

[Redog]

Originally posted by 99Alero_Boy+Oct 25 2004, 11:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (99Alero_Boy @ Oct 25 2004, 11:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-smokinAMD@Oct 25 2004, 09:14 PM
Also doesn't remove the speedlimiter, which is what 99% of us want the chip for.
:rolleyes: why? going that fast on the street or highway would just be plain stupid and childish IMO.......and i guarantee you don't have the mods to hit that speed limiter in the 1/4...... [/b][/quote]
Yeah that's what I figured too.

108 in the 1/4 mile is about low 13's gotta have a s/c or turbo to get that but they come with a reprogramed PCM anyway

[1WhiteOSV]

but when you run neck and neck w/ a GAGT on the interstate (my friend has one) and you hit your 108 and he keeps on goin till like 125 or so....it'd be nice to stay w/ him all they way through it. Call it "stupid" if you want, but as long as it's on an open road w/o any traffic or anything, have at it. Honestly, if I'm goin 125mph I am gonna be paying MORE attention to the road than if I was goin 65. I'm not sayin I DONT pay attention when I normally drive, it's just the truth that you pay MORE attention at high speeds than normal everyday driving.

[smokinAMD]

There are more tracks then drag strips. Ever hear of a road course? You can EASILY run against the governer on a lot of those tracks.

So therefor, your arguement is invalid with me.

[kwhauck]

yes i have,i didn't think you would be pushing the limiter thought....

[kou5oku]

Not to mention the fact that:
at 60ft to the finish line, I have to shift into third. (its an auto)..

If I leave it in 2nd gear, it hits the 6800 rev limiter.

Shifting into third bogs down my speed cause of the low torque at the bottom of third.



SOOO.. - I'm hoping -
That the 5800-6000 rev limit change will allow me to cross the finish line in 2nd..

I could give a crap about the 108 governer.
(Unless I'm late for work, then I'll go 140MPH on the sidewalk in a school zone at 7:05am) HAHA TAKE THAT.

I'm so unsafe I should be banned from this board.

[smokinAMD]

It's 5800 - 6000. Not 6800 - 7000.

If you were hitting 7k, you'd be having some nasty mechanical issues.

[1WhiteOSV]

alright DHP PCM owners....help me out please!
I went to the dealer today and talked to a guy who does all the work w/ PCM's. He said a case-learn is different from a crank-positioning learn. On PFYC.com it says they are the same thing. He said in a case-learn that it is impossible to do w/o programming in factory code (which is obviously not what i want). However, he said I probably need the crank-positioning learn which is where they take a scanner and plug it up to the PCM and turn the car on and run it at wide open throttle so the new PCM can learn the crank positioning so it doesn't throw any SES lights. He said that the crank-positioning learn takes only like 5 mins and he'd do it for free. As for the case-learn, he said that involves hooking up a computer to the PCM and using a program to load a program onto the PCM(which he can only load factory specs...which will override the performance specs DHP has programmed into it). Please clarify what I need in order for this DHP PCM to work on my car. Also, because I'd obviously have to have it installed before I got to the dealer for the crank-positioning learn....I would have to do the security relearn before I get there right?... Sorry for all the confusion, but these are things that I must know before buying. Thanks again!

Adam

[smokinAMD]

Nah, I didn't have to do that with mine. I just did the security relearn junk (case relearn is the proper term I guess) and off I went. Of course I have the ASE chip though....

[1WhiteOSV]

you have ASE and DHP? Or just ASE?

[smokinAMD]

Originally posted by 1WhiteOSV@Oct 26 2004, 12:10 PM
you have ASE and DHP? Or just ASE?
Just the ASE, it would be pointless to have both. In theory they offer the same benefits, except that the DHP is just software whereas the ASE is hardware.

So I don't need to worry about the dealer or someone reflashing my PCM. B)

[Youngblood77]

Originally posted by smokinAMD+Oct 26 2004, 04:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (smokinAMD @ Oct 26 2004, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-1WhiteOSV@Oct 26 2004, 12:10 PM
you have ASE and DHP? Or just ASE?
Just the ASE, it would be pointless to have both. In theory they offer the same benefits, except that the DHP is just software whereas the ASE is hardware.

So I don't need to worry about the dealer or someone reflashing my PCM. B) [/b][/quote]
Benefits of having a 99. <_<

I WISH it were that simple for a 2000. An ASE is cheaper aswell, correct?

[smokinAMD]

Originally posted by Youngblood77+Oct 26 2004, 08:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Youngblood77 @ Oct 26 2004, 08:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by smokinAMD@Oct 26 2004, 04:22 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-1WhiteOSV@Oct 26 2004, 12:10 PM
you have ASE and DHP?Â;-) Or just ASE?
Just the ASE, it would be pointless to have both. In theory they offer the same benefits, except that the DHP is just software whereas the ASE is hardware.

So I don't need to worry about the dealer or someone reflashing my PCM. B)
Benefits of having a 99. <_<

I WISH it were that simple for a 2000. An ASE is cheaper aswell, correct? [/b][/quote]
It was for me, I bought it off VoodooSoup. Got a second PCM with the chip in it. Dunno what he paid originally for the PCM and the chip, and getting everything working on it.

I think I made off pretty well though. Under 2 bills. Still cheaper then DHP, plugged it up, did the case relearn, and off I went.

[green99gls]

Where can I find out some stuff about the ASE chip that you guys are talking about. Have thought about getting the dhp pcm for a while but I like the point that AMD makes about not having to worry about having pcm flashed. Its been mentioned that the dhp pcm is basically a software upgrade because its a tuned factory chip where as the ASE is hardware. What do you mean by hardware? Just that it is basically plug and play(pop it in and your good to go). Any help would be great guys. Thanks

[1WhiteOSV]

I wanna know too....and if anyone says "go to www.asechips.com" I will digitally smack you!!! :evil:

[smokinAMD]

ASE isn't around anymore. They might be in the future, but who knows. All I know is the company relocated itself to Mexico. So DHP is really your only option for aftermarket PCM solutions at the moment.

[1WhiteOSV]

lol...moved to Mexico? hmmmmmm....I think I'll be going w/ DHP then lol. Instead of adding horsepower like it used to, the ASE chip will now add mulepower and I think I'll stick to horsies.

[Youngblood77]

Hey Smokin'

Besides the limiter being removed, does/did your car actually respond like it has more power? Might be hard to tell with the shifts being different, but I guess the bottom line is: Was it worth the 2 bills? Just wondering? ;)

[smokinAMD]

Originally posted by Youngblood77@Oct 27 2004, 06:00 PM
Hey Smokin'

Besides the limiter being removed, does/did your car actually respond like it has more power? Might be hard to tell with the shifts being different, but I guess the bottom line is: Was it worth the 2 bills? Just wondering? ;)
Yeah. It picked up some grunt to it. Also shifted a bit firmer.

It would shift a LOT firmer if you didn't drive like me. Our trannies shifts firm up when you drive hard, it relearns itself. Seeing as I drive EXTREMELY hard, mine was pretty firm to begin with.

The 4 - 2 shifts were nice as well. Makes accelerating a bit quicker and a lot more fun.

I'd guess and say it added about 10 pounds of torque, and maybe 6 - 10 hp. All I know is I can smoke the tires almost effortlessly now. Then again I believe my car is a factory freak compared to some of the other Alero's I've driven. Always seemed to have more pickup and gotten a bit better gas mileage.

[mike2002]

hey smokin, with a 3-1 skip shift, and firmer shifts...can you chirp the tires from like 30mph like the dhp lets l67 guys do??? im sure its hard on the tranny but way fun!!!

[1WhiteOSV]

I can chirp the tires at 30mph w/ my B&M ShiftPlus ($25 from a Jenny at High Rev..used)

[smokinAMD]

Originally posted by mike2002@Oct 27 2004, 07:26 PM
hey smokin, with a 3-1 skip shift, and firmer shifts...can you chirp the tires from like 30mph like the dhp lets l67 guys do??? im sure its hard on the tranny but way fun!!!
I chirped them at 50 today. Mashed the gas right when it was about ready to shift.

[mike2002]

you can go into first at 50???? that doesn't sound right, stock i can only go into 1st around 34ish. did you mean 40? or is that km/h? maybe im missing somthing? but i dont think a 4-2 shift will give you that much power

[smokinAMD]

Originally posted by mike2002@Nov 8 2004, 08:29 PM
you can go into first at 50???? that doesn't sound right, stock i can only go into 1st around 34ish. did you mean 40? or is that km/h? maybe im missing somthing? but i dont think a 4-2 shift will give you that much power
From a dead stop, my car accelerates to 50mph in 1st gear if I mash the gas all the way. It shifts like right at 50mph, maybe +/- 3mph or so.

It didn't shift down to first, it shifted down to 2nd when I chirped them. My car is a factory freak too before the ASE chip. Just ask mobs about it's tire roasting abilities.

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by smokinAMD@Oct 27 2004, 03:54 AM
ASE isn't around anymore. They might be in the future, but who knows. All I know is the company relocated itself to Mexico. So DHP is really your only option for aftermarket PCM solutions at the moment.
when i first emailed ASE a while back they said they were in mexico, but acted like they're still making the chips. just have to send them your pcm.

[FormulaNERD]

yea, at WOT my car doesnt shift till after 50. i barely hit second at the end of the 1/8th... doin ~68