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jlhog
07-07-2016, 05:08 PM
Can someone tell me what diameter the pipe is before the muffler? I am considering getting a different muffler (better sounding). 2004 3.4 Thanks

leroBob
07-07-2016, 05:54 PM
Usually 2.5 fairly standard.

Babyblue
07-07-2016, 05:55 PM
I believe it's 2 inch.

jlhog
07-07-2016, 07:17 PM
I am leaning more towards 2". Hard to tell for sure, but it's not very big.I just want to get the right size muffler.

AleroCzak
07-07-2016, 09:59 PM
Pretty sure the stock pipe is only 2 inch.

Redog
07-08-2016, 04:52 AM
Stock on the Alero is 2.25 inches

falloutboy
07-08-2016, 12:33 PM
Link to Walker exhaust (http://catalog.walkerexhaust.com/catalog/resultsDiagramDisplay.do?diagramNumber=13_03431&catalogCode=walkerexhaustasset&locale=en&loadStatus=ACTIVE)

this way, u should get a fitting muffler and exhaust clamps, as most manufacturers and sales guys can x-reference the walker part-#

jlhog
07-08-2016, 02:55 PM
I found this on the Walker site. It says 2" in and 2" out. This muffler is a direct replacement for the 2004 Alero. Has anyone tried this? Just wondering how it sounds.

http://www.walkerexhaust.com/catalog/walker-exhaust-systems/e-catalog-lookup/18557

Muffler Inlet Count 1
Muffler Inlet Diameter 1 2.000"
Muffler Inlet Diameter Designation Outside Diameter
Muffler Inlet Connection Type Pipe Connection
Muffler Outlet Configuration Offset
Muffler Outlet Count 2
Muffler Outlet Diameter 2.000"

Papa Rad17
07-09-2016, 01:18 AM
Stock on the Alero is 2.25 inches

I do believe so. Doesn't vary with motor does it?

jlhog
07-09-2016, 08:08 AM
Looking at the Walker link falloutboy posted above the same size is used on both 4 and 6 cylinder models 1999-2004
http://www.walkerexhaust.com/catalog/walker-exhaust-systems/e-catalog-lookup

falloutboy
07-09-2016, 01:25 PM
Hope the Walker site is correct, as my intermediate pipe looks more like rust bucket, than exhaust.
And this month I have my tech inspection, soo knowing what pipe fits would be awesome.

Good luck with finding a muffler that suits you

jlhog
07-09-2016, 01:27 PM
Hardest part of finding the muffler I want is not being able to hear what it sounds like before buying it. If it sounds like crap, I just threw that money down the drain.

jlhog
07-09-2016, 09:02 PM
I just put the calipers on my pipe just before the muffler. 1.94xxx inches. Pretty close to 2" OD. I also emailed Walker about what type of sound to expect from the 18557. Now for a new question. I am looking at Manzo strut braces. Any good? 2004 Grand Am will fit the Alero? This forum will cost me $$$$$$$$$$$

1970cs
07-09-2016, 09:49 PM
That brace will fit! They both were built on the same assembly line in Lansing.

Pat

jlhog
07-09-2016, 10:01 PM
Thanks neighbor!!

jlhog
07-10-2016, 06:47 PM
After more research on the Walker Sound Fx muffler it appears it is not much louder than stock. My son has a Borla in his garage that may fit or I will go with the Thrush Turbo. I also ordered new headlight assemblies and Xenon HID bulbs. And Xenon HID fog light bulbs. Also coming will be the Manzo front and rear upper strut bars.Scheduling Friday to get the windows tinted. My Little Red Hot Rod is coming together...

Bahlzeron
07-11-2016, 11:55 AM
Go for the redneck ultra coolness glass pack, O'Reilly sells Thrush glass packs for 'bout $22 right now. I plan on going catless (possibly a high flow cat), and no resonator with glass pack with my 2.4l, nice free flowing exhaust (even better after I get my header on).

01OhioAlero
07-11-2016, 02:27 PM
I went with a catless downpipe on my 3500/3400 never again. It sounds awful. Raspy and very annoying. Flowmaster 40s sound good on a 3400

Papa Rad17
07-12-2016, 11:41 AM
my 2.2 is currently catless. 4-2-1 header into a summit 18" glass pack, clean 2.25 pipe back a vibrant ultra quite resonator. It's not bad sometimes, but while the car is down I'm cutting the glass pack out. It smooths out the crackle but gives you a distinctive rice rocket sound. Get a high flow cat, worth it. The motor needs some back pressure anyway.

jlhog
07-12-2016, 05:21 PM
I'm not getting all crazy with the exhaust. I just want a nice low rumble. I am hoping just a muffler swap will do this. I may have to try a couple different ones before I get the sound I want.If not I will put the stock muffler back on.

Bahlzeron
07-13-2016, 11:57 AM
To get the sound you are looking for you may need to swap out the resonator with a glasspack, or delete it totally. Try different combinations, you'll get the sound you want. My old alero (2.4l), someone had deleted the resonator and catalytic but left the stock muffler in place.. sounded pretty good, much deeper than the one I have now.

jlhog
07-13-2016, 04:52 PM
To get the sound you are looking for you may need to swap out the resonator with a glasspack, or delete it totally. Try different combinations, you'll get the sound you want. My old alero (2.4l), someone had deleted the resonator and catalytic but left the stock muffler in place.. sounded pretty good, much deeper than the one I have now.

I will get what I want or put the stock muffler back on. Not a big deal.

Valley olds
07-14-2016, 11:45 PM
Go for the redneck ultra coolness glass pack, O'Reilly sells Thrush glass packs for 'bout $22 right now. I plan on going catless (possibly a high flow cat), and no resonator with glass pack with my 2.4l, nice free flowing exhaust (even better after I get my header on).

I tried going catless, due to a clogged cat. I did not even last 10 minutes. Terrible rasp. And I kind of felt a bit of bogging. Once I installed a Magnaflow cat though, problem solved.

I believe a member here would run two mufflers. One where it goes, and one in place of the resonator. He said sound was pretty good, and flow was great as well.

jlhog
07-15-2016, 06:40 PM
Making a little progress. New headlight assemblies and HID bulbs are installed. The front strut tower brace is installed. The windows are all tinted 35% now. My son went camping this weekend so the muffler and probably the HID fog light bulbs will wait until next weekend. I may try the fog lights tomorrow, but this old guy hates laying on the ground. can anyone tell me what number the bulb is that is directly in front of the shifter in the console? I want to get an led and do not see it listed in the manual...

jlhog
07-17-2016, 02:57 PM
Well I did change the fog light bulbs also. It was easier to remove the headlight and do it from above. I am disappointed with the cheap HID bulbs I bought. I may go with the Phillips CrystalVision Ultra. Something is not right with the headlight assemblies either, but I hope to get that sorted also. Can the fog lights be taken apart to clean them up?

falloutboy
07-17-2016, 05:37 PM
U may want to start dedicated threads about these issues ;) much more change someone answers, and provide pics to help aid you.

and yes, the foglights can be taken apart, BUT be careful the reflective part in all light housing is just steamed on chrome, so even a finger smear or wipe with a towel will remove the chrome
(don't ask me how I know)

jlhog
07-23-2016, 06:17 PM
Sounds pretty good with no muffler. I had my son put the Thrush Turbo 2.25" muffler on . No video of that yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKD9hTvFRWg&sns=emjl

jlhog
07-25-2016, 06:37 PM
I got the car back from my son yesterday. He cut the muffler off and installed a Thrush Welded muffler 2.25" in and 2.25" out. He used an adapter to go from 2" to 2.25". My thought was better sound from the 2.25" and better selection of exhaust tips. Well it does sound pretty good. Nice rumble to it. I can see my mpg's going down as I like to hit the throttle a little harder now. I will post a video after I get the tip on....