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_HeC_
04-01-2016, 12:22 AM
Thought I'd share my build over here :canada:
just a quick catch up, I have a 2003 Grand Am GT that I swapped a 3500/5spd into last year with some bolt on's. Put over 15,000kms on that setup
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20141114_230608_zps9k9p5jmh.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20141114_230608_zps9k9p5jmh.jpg.html)
Bit of a budget build so using 2 front LX9(3500) manifolds with a custom crossover and a Borg Warner S300 turbo from a 7L CAT machine, I had bought a turbo crossover fabbed up for a 2nd gen J-body with a flipped UIM for dirt cheap which didn't work at all lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160129_195009_edit_zpsrnrjiqm6.jpg
so grabbed a new turbo flange and pretty much started over trying to hug the engine as close as I could to make way for a 3" downpipe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160203_195444_edit_edit_zpsldpyeqqa.jpg
The red transmission cap should give you a good reference point for how much it moved
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_1454520741541_zpsny0c8wtv.jpg
Got the turbo mounted and did a quick mock up, happy with how things are going so far but still lots to do before May...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160307_205752_edit_zpsx8rnskee.jpg
Dropped my turbo off at Re-Speed to get the turbo outlet flange changed to a normal 3" V-band
before
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160316_125405_zps5e1kspc6.jpg
after
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/1931280_815032591957289_564106998820115267_n_zpsjj 9pbsrg.jpg
_HeC_
04-01-2016, 12:25 AM
All mocked up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160321_223353_hdr_zpsr7w3dyky.jpg
better view of how its all plumbed and getting it welded up
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160322_223943_hdr_zpsphnmdayh.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160322_223749_hdr_zpsynnjyi7o.jpg
all done except for wastegate placement
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160323_190601_zpsfrnxviri.jpg
3" turbo back, charge pipes, and wastegate plumbing arrived as well as my intercooler
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160329_150913_hdr_zps8knjstle.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160329_150913_hdr_zps8knjstle.jpg.html)
Was hoping to get the DP passed the subframe but I couldn't remove/install it if it was any longer then what it is now
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160329_215912_zpsoftckflj.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160329_215912_zpsoftckflj.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160331_214400_edit_zpsu1oi8dch.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160331_214400_edit_zpsu1oi8dch.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160331_214433_zpsu5anjlhu.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160331_214433_zpsu5anjlhu.jpg.html)
Papa Rad17
04-01-2016, 03:57 AM
:awesome:
I like where this is going
tw0123
04-01-2016, 07:53 PM
looking good Mike! Guess that means you won't make the season opener in Whitby on April 10th... I'm thinking of going down for it...
_HeC_
04-02-2016, 08:14 PM
Thanks guys and what season opener Tim? Obviously I'm no where near driving yet lol but hoping to be burning rubber May long weekend! :)
tw0123
04-02-2016, 10:16 PM
I'll send you the link through Facebook... Used to be run by the gmco club but he folded it a year or so and another club took over the meets... It's held at the landmark cinema in Whitby at Thickson rd and the 401... Starts at like 5pm or sobering like that haha!
_HeC_
04-17-2016, 08:42 PM
TCE 1.25" phenolic intake spacers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160401_191321_zpstgueopzh.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160401_191321_zpstgueopzh.jpg.html)
Hood didn't close :( lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160411_195123_zpsdusrchyn.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160411_195123_zpsdusrchyn.jpg.html)
the culprit
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160411_211741_zpswufisaix.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160411_211741_zpswufisaix.jpg.html)
will clean this up later
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160411_220233_zpstbz8cyha.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160411_220233_zpstbz8cyha.jpg.html)
mounted my intercooler as high as it would go between the crash bar...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160404_164925_zpsgekli7yu.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160404_164925_zpsgekli7yu.jpg.html)
this bump was getting in the way of going higher
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160404_181837_zpsfprvgea6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160404_181837_zpsfprvgea6.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160404_200503_hdr_zpssrdg8dfd.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160404_200503_hdr_zpssrdg8dfd.jpg.html)
much better!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160405_181326_zpsowrj7zz6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160405_181326_zpsowrj7zz6.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160408_163311_zpslxeqhaes.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160408_163311_zpslxeqhaes.jpg.html)
charge pipes!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160414_180709_zpsihuituqb.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160414_180709_zpsihuituqb.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160414_180240_hdr_zpsr3nxqfpq.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160414_180240_hdr_zpsr3nxqfpq.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160415_170454_zpsck1xl40y.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160415_170454_zpsck1xl40y.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160415_175456_zpsf52qh3do.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160415_175456_zpsf52qh3do.jpg.html)
Koots
07-10-2016, 12:10 AM
Did you get this build finished? Because this is awesome.
What was the power like before with the NA 3500 and 5-speed?
tw0123
07-10-2016, 11:23 AM
He's almost done... I'm bugging him to finish it by the end of July to bring it to the mini meet we're having lol
_HeC_
07-10-2016, 12:29 PM
Ya still working away on it, hopefully soon! The manual V6 was a blast to drive N/A, hit the track twice and got 14.4@103mph I believe(traction issues)
heres some updates I haven't posted yet
So I spent some time finishing off my last charge pipe and came up with this contraption
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160425_145723_zpsx8io2ojd.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160425_145723_zpsx8io2ojd.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160425_150406_zpsesqyg0cx.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160425_150406_zpsesqyg0cx.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160425_161411_zpsm8iibqg0.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160425_161411_zpsm8iibqg0.jpg.html)
which put my MAF down here
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160425_145436_edit_zpsg6xhogxz.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160425_145436_edit_zpsg6xhogxz.jpg.html)
Not even 24hrs later and I chopped off half of that charge pipe and started from scratch though :( lol but happier with the placement of things, I'll grab some pics later when it's not so dark in the garage
_HeC_
07-10-2016, 12:30 PM
This should be better, might still mess with a small section of the charge pipe by the TB bracket
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160427_155840_zpsfgxm07mo.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160427_155840_zpsfgxm07mo.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160427_154533_zpsqrwzfxg7.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160427_154533_zpsqrwzfxg7.jpg.html)
Decided to get a new wastegate to get a much smaller design and v-bands, also went with 44mm VS the 38mm Emusa
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160506_154419_zpsvzsujyyz.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160506_154419_zpsvzsujyyz.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/d447dc29-c1f4-4c9e-ad9b-682406b42688_zpsd9tsvdmi.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/d447dc29-c1f4-4c9e-ad9b-682406b42688_zpsd9tsvdmi.jpg.html)
Going to be sitting something like this, still need to cut that pipe down a bit
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160509_195750_zps7khvskun.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160509_195750_zps7khvskun.jpg.html)
_HeC_
07-10-2016, 12:31 PM
Might as well update this I guess, it at least give me a nice "journal" of my build lol
Got my drive train out a little while ago
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160610_142434_zps7br33mjr.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160610_142434_zps7br33mjr.jpg.html)
Inspected my "stage 3" ebay clutch and rather happy with it after 16,000+kms with no proper break in and beating the shit out of it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160609_193943_zps8kfgsbtt.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160609_193943_zps8kfgsbtt.jpg.html)
drilled my pan for oil drain, thought I could get away with a nut and loctite but not enough thread showing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160614_171154_zpszrzyyzmv.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160614_171154_zpszrzyyzmv.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_1465940699709_zpsft9bvgar.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_1465940699709_zpsft9bvgar.jpg.html)
So dropped it off at a local shop that I use for my TIG welding(Re-Speed) and some beauty cars out front
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160624_145227_zps2eoca5ow.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160624_145227_zps2eoca5ow.jpg.html)
Last year I lost my steering rack tabs.... NOT this year or anytime soon lol 1/8" plate on both sides
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160629_130623_zpsvtyf4pg3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160629_130623_zpsvtyf4pg3.jpg.html)
Lifted fuse box 1" and relocated wires from the front out the back
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_1467483934089_zps0bf28idc.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_1467483934089_zps0bf28idc.jpg.html)
last year I had some TERRIBLE traction issues the 2 times i hit the track... Got a closer look at my poly rear mount and damn?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160609_173738_zpskhztl48n.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160609_173738_zpskhztl48n.jpg.html)
New one is here so little fire with the old lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160704_173217_zpsnz0rxdse.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160704_173217_zpsnz0rxdse.jpg.html)
GTP 36# inectors/connections and my PCM flashed for them thanks to Scott!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160703_153016_zpsnb3ranng.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160703_153016_zpsnb3ranng.jpg.html)
ohh and got myself a WOT-Box for some 2-step launch control and no lift shift :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160613_180935_zpspbhyp7gd.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/_HeC_/media/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160613_180935_zpspbhyp7gd.jpg.html)
00redse
10-15-2016, 11:46 AM
very impressive and well documented build here. I like what youve done.
_HeC_
10-16-2016, 08:15 PM
Thanks man, guess this needs some updating as the car is driving...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgG87WFq6VI
3" downpipe, wanted it to be 1 piece but wasn't happening
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160728_221933_hdr_zpswsmlbyeq.jpg
Girlfriend painting all the exhaust parts with some POR-20 heat paint
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160802_190900_zpsrcba7si7.jpg
Some heat management
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160731_163801_zpsfh0tpv2o.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160801_180513_zps8ggl2hku.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160809_194544_edit_zpsfojg2g6z.jpg
Quick clean to make sure no debris was inside
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160821_124936_zpsp5mmwnis.jpg
Notch for oil return
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160818_175559_zpsrfdzyx7v.jpg
Screamer pipe
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20160930_152119_zpsxeap8taj.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20161003_203610_edit_zps8gyzt2yu.jpg
_HeC_
10-16-2016, 08:16 PM
Words can't describe how much I ****ing love this thing! Lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20161007_155342_hdr_edit_zpsetc3ovu7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20161008_141149_hdr_zpsluipgiet.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20161009_161348_edit_zps1q3bdcce.jpg
Quick driving video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cWxD0UAkkOw
Papa Rad17
10-22-2016, 11:13 PM
awesome. Car looks great, sounds fantastic!
Cyber Knight
11-08-2016, 01:02 PM
Sounds like a beast, nice work!
_HeC_
08-20-2018, 08:46 AM
Thanks guys
3500 #2 went in last yr.
Wot-tech cam
Yellow LS valve springs
P&P intake manifolds
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20170629_181122_hdr_edit_edit_zpsrual1vyf.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20170701_181745_edit_zpsxixoztxe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_1746_edit_zpscvfaused.jpg
Nice to see photobucket went back to 3rd party hosting
:applause:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/_HeC_/03%20GAGT/IMG_20180814_152625_195_zpsf7dhg1yo.jpg
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