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WIALERO
03-27-2013, 01:57 AM
Well today i installed a new thermostat and the old one when i turned off the heat it it would go passed half way and would sit there and i put a new one in and even with the heat on it went passed way and even driving at 70 it still sits there and oil temp reads 220 when im at idle for 5min i have pics and can send them to you im here on a phone so i cant upload them but how long will it take to break in i put 10 miles on it the way its looking right now i am probably not going to ass if i have to replace the headgasgets or is it normal to see it overheat for a while for the new thermostat to break in?
billytheman1188
03-27-2013, 02:17 AM
lol....the new thermostat doesn't need to break in.....you either have bad LIMG or HG.
WIALERO
03-27-2013, 02:30 AM
Well hopefully its not the head gasget but it could ne a possibility there is some moisture around the heads
WIALERO
03-27-2013, 02:45 AM
Hell with it il replace the head gasgets friday
AleroB888
03-27-2013, 03:37 AM
Are the fans comng on at all?
WIALERO
03-27-2013, 03:44 AM
Nope even got new relays for both fans to
WIALERO
03-27-2013, 04:12 AM
This weekend or friday ima replace both head gasgets, limg, temp sensor, coolant and idle air control needed a new one anyways car idles funny sometimes
And with the fan issue ima run a power wire to them with ground to see if they work and if they do il run it to a switch but if not il get new ones
AleroB888
03-27-2013, 04:23 AM
A scanner such as HP Tuners can manually switch on the fans. I don't know if a place like Autozone has that capability. Also scan it for Engine Coolant Temp (ECT) or shut it off after it heats up, unplug the ECT sensor and measure the resistance on the sensor.
Mike The Canadian
03-27-2013, 07:33 AM
It's possible that the system need to be bled or burped...
It's real quick to go and replace the head gasket after the car went from running cool to running hot after a T-Stat change...
03glgold
03-27-2013, 08:07 AM
did you ever try my suggestion of jumping the plug for the temp sensor to see if the fans come on
Pm me. I possibly can come help you
kwhauck
03-27-2013, 09:42 AM
It's possible that the system need to be bled or burped...
It's real quick to go and replace the head gasket after the car went from running cool to running hot after a T-Stat change...
I'll second this......
WIALERO
03-27-2013, 07:22 PM
[QUOTE=Mike The Canadian;636391]It's possible that the system need to be bled or burped...
It's real quick to go and replace the head gasket after the car went from running cool to running hot after a T-Stat change...[/QUOT
So basically flush the system? And us there a drain spout on the bottom of the radiator?
WIALERO
03-27-2013, 07:23 PM
did you ever try my suggestion of jumping the plug for the temp sensor to see if the fans come on
Not yet ima try it tomarrow when i have off
WIALERO
03-27-2013, 07:23 PM
did you ever try my suggestion of jumping the plug for the temp sensor to see if the fans come on
Car overheated once for 5u min then came back down and the fans did not turn on
03glgold
03-27-2013, 07:43 PM
I don't care about that...take a extra piece of wire, unplug the connector from the temperature sensor, put one end into each of the two pins and turn the key on...then do the fans come on...my car got about half way between 3/4 and red one time since I owned it and it was because the temp sensor was bad and not telling the fans to kick on...We jumped the plug and it showed the fans worked when the circuit was completed, replaced the sensor and haven't had that issue since...the best thing about it is that it is free trouble shooting to figure out if a $30 part is part of a problem you are thinking will be much more expensive
Mike The Canadian
03-27-2013, 07:47 PM
The system is burped via. a bleeder near the water pump....
Try and search it online, I don't have a link off-hand...
If there's air in the system your car will over heat and you'll have no heat as well..
Rad fans is likely a separate issue that should be addressed as well because it will heat up when you sit around in the city.
WIALERO
03-27-2013, 09:30 PM
Well still have really good heat
WIALERO
03-27-2013, 09:32 PM
I don't care about that...take a extra piece of wire, unplug the connector from the temperature sensor, put one end into each of the two pins and turn the key on...then do the fans come on...my car got about half way between 3/4 and red one time since I owned it and it was because the temp sensor was bad and not telling the fans to kick on...We jumped the plug and it showed the fans worked when the circuit was completed, replaced the sensor and haven't had that issue since...the best thing about it is that it is free trouble shooting to figure out if a $30 part is part of a problem you are thinking will be much more expensive
Sounds easy il try it later when i get off work
zzyzzx
03-27-2013, 09:52 PM
Was the thermostat that you took out stuck open?
If not, did you test the thermostat that you took out?
I usually just put them in water in a pan on the stove and see if it opens all the way. I do that with new ones before I install them as well, just to test them.
WIALERO
03-28-2013, 11:18 PM
I don't care about that...take a extra piece of wire, unplug the connector from the temperature sensor, put one end into each of the two pins and turn the key on...then do the fans come on...my car got about half way between 3/4 and red one time since I owned it and it was because the temp sensor was bad and not telling the fans to kick on...We jumped the plug and it showed the fans worked when the circuit was completed, replaced the sensor and haven't had that issue since...the best thing about it is that it is free trouble shooting to figure out if a $30 part is part of a problem you are thinking will be much more expensive
K tried it and fans did not kick on :/
03glgold
03-29-2013, 01:08 AM
after you turned it on no fans...that could suggest a problem with the wiring or the fans themselves after doing that and changing the relays
WIALERO
03-29-2013, 01:51 AM
after you turned it on no fans...that could suggest a problem with the wiring or the fans themselves after doing that and changing the relays
Then later went out and started it they kicked on for 30 seconds then shut off
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