Serious Problem

[jmray91]

Ok I installed my MSD 8224s today and the car cranked perfectly on the first go but now its not cranking at all and i dont know whats wrong. It isnt throwing a code or anything it just wont turn over.

[cavaliers60]

What is a MSD 8224s?

[jmray91]

http://www.msdignition.com/Products/Coils/Stock_Replacement/8224_-_GM_Coil_Pack,_2_Tower_Style.aspx

i did everything that it said to in ions write up on how to install them i even installed them with the 8224 MSD Coil Interfaces

[[ion] C2]

If the starter doesn't work, maybe your battery is dead. Nothing you wire up in the ignition will prevent the starter from working. Considering you can completely disconnect the ICM and coils and still crank the engine over..

What is a MSD 8224s?
http://ion-productions.com/coils.jpg

[jmray91]

all the power still comes into the car the fuel pump works and everything comes on the engine just wont turn over it makes the starting noise and thats it and i just tried uplugging the icm and coils and it still wont turn over

[[ion] C2]

what exactly would you define as a "starting noise?"

seriously, people trying to describe a "car won't start" problem really suck at details.

when you say the engine "won't turn over," you mean it physically will not rotate the crankshaft? the starter is not turning, essentially? what the hell is a "starting noise" if the engine doesn't turn over?

don't know man, check your battery cable tightness on the battery. it's nothing to do with what is described in the how-to. guaranteed. something else coincidentally occured.

[jmray91]

ok the crank turns and you hear the start trying to crank the car but thats it and battery cable is tight

[jmray91]

and that is why i wanted to ask you ion cause you did the write up for it so you mightve had an idea on what is going on and just checked the battery it tested good at 500volts if you could hear the car you could probably tell me what wrong

[tw0123]

take a quick video and post it! best way for him to hear it without actually being there ;)

[Redog]

Is everything plugged back in? Everything tight?

Sounds like you're not getting spark

[xXManwhoreXx]

Is the starter making a crank noise and the motor chugging, or just a wine?

[Redog]

If the motor cranks, the starter is working.

Only things left is battery is close to dead, no fuel, no spark.

Had you tried pumping the gas when you try to start it? Do you smell gas when you do that?

[[ion] C2]

you wired up something wrong then if it's not starting

[jmray91]

ya i smell gas but could bosch irdium/platinum plugs be the problem? and yes the starter is making a crank noise and the motor is chugging. its definitely not whining

[[ion] C2]

bosch plugs are terrible, but if it ran the first time it should still run with it wired like this
sure the wires aren't mismatched at all

[jmray91]

positve i even matched up up exactly to your chart and checked my work twice like i said the card started with the new coils then i went to drive it again and that when it started its crap

[guiguilandry]

security light on ??

[jhubbz]

Did you stuff the plug wires with dielectric grease? Also, make sure you have a secure ground connection. I did the msd mod without fail. Although I do not have the bases.

[jmray91]

Im gonna try rewiring it tomorrow and ill check my plugs got some new ones coming in and hopefully it fixes it

[jmray91]

Checked the wiring earlier and i got a new pigtail for the icm and i fixed the problem right there. Dont know what caused it but it fixed the problem