QUICK Intake Question !

[pjwallington]

http://s1089.photobucket.com/albums/i359/pjwallington/?action=view&current=P120611_1256.jpghttp://s1089.photobucket.com/albums/i359/pjwallington/?action=view&current=P120611_1256.jpg (Picture of current setup)

I bought a performance air filter yesterday. The inlet hole is 3" Diameter, but wouldnt fit my factory intake tubing..
So I removed it and the air box ( Plus the IAT Sensor> Intake Air Sensor)

The question is.. Can I drill a hole just before where I placed the filter ? Or could I buy 2,1/2" Steel piping and put an 'S' bend in it and place it over behind the Battery where the Air box 'Was' ?

As of right now, i removed the sensor from the factory intake, plugged it back in, and have it taped on the far side of my battery (Noob-ish of me:p )

Help would be much appretiated (My car is the 5-speed MAN) .

[heineck]

very dumb

[sleepyalero]

:agree:

You want to use a STEEL pipe as an intake pipe?? Like wtf?.... here's another option... use pvc piping.... lol....

[[ion] C2]

order the pipe from eBay, and get one that goes all the way to the throttle body instead of just the S-bend around the battery.

if you don't know a fabricator or shop that sells aluminum tubing or silicone couplers, get it online. either way, do it right

[a.graham52]

C2;587979']order the pipe from eBay, and get one that goes all the way to the throttle body instead of just the S-bend around the battery.

if you don't know a fabricator or shop that sells aluminum tubing or silicone couplers, get it online. either way, do it right

i pretty much told him the same thing already. told him to put it back together with the original parts and wait untill he can do it RIGHT.

[pjwallington]

Seems like Graham and Ion are the only people that give any useful information.
(From reading other posts, etc etc.. Others seem very rude, and almost like they have NO patients whatsoever.) For example "USE THE SEARCH BUTTON" Or "YOUR SO DUMB" instead of keeping their thoughts to themselves if the information cant be helpful.
Whats with people these days ? Like the second and third posts, get a life.
*Never heard of PVC piping.
Thank-you very much.
Oh.. and as for a.Graham52... I asked a Mechanic today, they told me just to drill a hole before where I have the filter and put the sensor there.. Why I was double checking. And whats the difference between my dads PLASTIC K&N intake tube on his hemi, and 3" steel piping ?

[pjwallington]

Seems like Graham and Ion are the only people that give any useful information.


^ You know who you are ! Not aimed at the other nice guys on here*

[JLw7123]

you can just go to ur local auto store and get intake piping they make and intake pipe so that you do not have to drill the intake pipe.

[sleepyalero]

And whats the difference between my dads PLASTIC K&N intake tube on his hemi, and 3" steel piping ?

im sorry, i think you are mistaking the "steel piping" as aluminum? steel piping is a very thick, strong metal, unlike aluminum piping.

[pjwallington]

im sorry, i think you are mistaking the "steel piping" as aluminum? steel piping is a very thick, strong metal, unlike aluminum piping.

Correct ;)

[Lucalare]

And steel rusts. And I'm pretty sure your engine won't appreciate having rust flakes run through it.

[pjwallington]

^ "Stainless" steel maybe ? like the exhaust... I dont think it rusts, I could be wrong

[Philbar71]

All metal corrodes, rusts, and oxidizes. Some more and faster than others.

[sleepyalero]

do this for the intake.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-MALIBU-2-4-2-4L-AIR-INTAKE-1997-2004-BLUE-FILTER-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZModelQ3aAleroQQhashZitem41 5a92c124QQitemZ280692441380QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTru ckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_2987wt_939

i know its not a full intake but its a start.

[heineck]

meh for 15 bucks moar do it right

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-2002-97-98-99-00-01-Cavalier-2-4L-Air-Intake-Kit-/400221693976?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &fits=Model%3ACavalier&hash=item5d2f126818

[sleepyalero]

:agree:

[JLw7123]

x2

[a.graham52]

x3

[pjwallington]

sweet ! SleepyAlero, I was looking at that earlier, and I was wondering if my Garage up the street could make me an elbow piece like that, keep stock intake pipe, just put the filter where my airbox was.
They will probably charge me around $40...
EDIT: heineck, that looks like a killer deal ! I wonder if I can take my filter back to AutoParts and get me 31 bucks back :D

[heineck]

Just hold on to the filter. Never know when u might need another one. I have like 3 of em lol.

[sleepyalero]

I second his post. And pj sorry we got off to a bad start.

[[ion] C2]

y u so mean

[Christato71]

meh for 15 bucks moar do it right

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-2002-97-98-99-00-01-Cavalier-2-4L-Air-Intake-Kit-/400221693976?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories &fits=Model%3ACavalier&hash=item5d2f126818

I've always wondered, what is that little piece of rubber tubing for and where does it connect too?

[heineck]

PCV hose

[Christato71]

where does that connect up at?

[heineck]

its the 2 hoses underneath the intake manifold, one runs to ur stock intake and the other goes back into the timing housing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v720/remus2k/PCV/LD9_PCV.jpg

[pjwallington]

SleepyAlero: Beginning is always the toughest to get through lol.. Fresh start is always good :D
Hopefully sometime this week I can get the intake dealt with, and Ill update on this thread.

[cherrington17]

Ohhh man, could you imagine a STEEL intake tube? That alone would increase the front end weight about 100lbs.

[sleepyalero]

SleepyAlero: Beginning is always the toughest to get through lol.. Fresh start is always good :D
Hopefully sometime this week I can get the intake dealt with, and Ill update on this thread.

Exactly

[heineck]

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[heineck]

Ohhh man, could you imagine a STEEL intake tube? That alone would increase the front end weight about 100lbs.

http://intakehoses.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=P207326&Category_Code=MIE0

:p

[Philbar71]

its the 2 hoses underneath the intake manifold, one runs to ur stock intake and the other goes back into the timing housing



I thought it was the other way around. The vacuum from the intake sucked the air from the air to oil separator and the oil went back down to the pan. Im prolly wrong tho, lol.

[heineck]

im not 100% on the direction the air pulled either

[[ion] C2]

I am. It goes both ways. It just provides a channel for the air from the movement in the crankcase to go. The green line in the drawing is a vent.

I no longer have the red channel functioning since I have a custom manifold. And the green line is just atmospheric. Not connected to an intake or anything.

All it is is a vent. As long as air can move, it will work fine.

[Lucalare]

Ohhh man, could you imagine a STEEL intake tube? That alone would increase the front end weight about 100lbs.

http://intakehoses.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=P207326&Category_Code=MIE0

:p

Makes me wonder about an aluminum exhaust pipe? Although I know some the early 00's GM pickups ran an aluminum tailpipe at least, and not sure about intermediate pipes.

[widbyj]

Makes me wonder about an aluminum exhaust pipe? Although I know some the early 00's GM pickups ran an aluminum tailpipe at least, and not sure about intermediate pipes.

I would think that under most conditions everything from the cat on back could be aluminum without any major heat-related issues.:cool: Probably would be wise though to protect everything by applying some of that adhesive-backed thermal shield material along the exhaust route. Hard part is dealing with the pipe itself, aluminum doesn't weld easily so clamping has to done. Most of the real weight to be saved is in the muffler, aluminum could help a lot here but be expensive?

Anyhow, just my two cents... Good luck!

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

aluminum welds very easily....but not to steel and most of the components (headers, cats, mufflers) are made of some sort of steel. Also, aluminum is very soft. if you bottom out with aluminum exhaust pipes, you could easily tear it open....where steel would be just scuffed up.


the metal I wanna know about is Invar...it's a steel/nickel alloy, but I have no idea what possibilities there can be for automotive application. It can be soldered if it is copper plated...not sure if it can be welded. I would think that it can be used for engine blocks, brake rotors, and other high-heat/high friction stuff.

[Philbar71]

Titanium is supposedly the best for exhausts. My moms Z06 has a Titanium exhaust, supposedly, and it's quite ugly. The tips are Titanium and dont shine up at all. dull as snot. lol

[03Sleepr]

Titanium is supposedly the best for exhausts. My moms Z06 has a Titanium exhaust, supposedly, and it's quite ugly. The tips are Titanium and dont shine up at all. dull as snot. lol

until they start to heat up and turn blue..then (depending on the car) its just plain sexy.

[Philbar71]

These have a dull brown/blue look to them. lol