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jabartram
02-11-2011, 10:15 PM
i need specifics on the upper intake swap, what all needs to be done, has anybody on here done the 3500 upper swap? i know Blackjack has but he hasnt been on in a while. besides the throttle body adapter, ive read about egr differences? just need some input.

Redog
02-12-2011, 12:32 AM
I think you also need a FPR bracket of some kind.

I would have done the 3500 upper, but stuck with the 3400 due to getting it for free ;)

BlackJack
02-12-2011, 01:09 AM
Ken, free is no excuse. I got some tinfoil that I'll give you for free, but I got a nickel that says you won't put it on your car. LOL
(Signed, the Barcastic Sastard)

James I can't give you the specifics for the 3500 upper swap, when I did mine it was a TOTAL custom setup. I didn't even have the entire neck from the upper. It was removed from the plenum and replaced with a 3" pipe with huge TB plate at the end, and custom angled to clear that big turbo.

Observe: http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/qaddamage/myturbo/phase%202/

jabartram
02-12-2011, 01:33 AM
i have an email in to ben right now for best options for what i need, low end power is where its at for me, 0 to 70 mph. im 4 seconds off from the fastest bmw right now, 4 seconds is a life time on an autocross track.

BlackJack
02-12-2011, 01:38 AM
what size intake piping are you using?

I'm headed to work, and forums are blocked on our govt computer, so might be another 8-10 hours before I get back in here.

jabartram
02-12-2011, 10:00 AM
whatever the cold air intakes are.

BlackJack
02-12-2011, 02:08 PM
If you have the "Naich-speed" original offered on Aleromod, I thought that was 3". Maybe I'm mistaken, might have been 2.5" But I know it wasn't any less than that.

I ask because if you're looking for low-end, you can start with ditching that CAI and switch to a WAI. That will give you a little bit on low end without much modifying, but it will take away some of your legs on mid-upper range. May be a fluke, but that's what I had happen to me way back pre-turbo days. Amazing how I can barely remember that time.

jabartram
02-12-2011, 03:02 PM
i talked to ben, we are gonna setup a 3500 upper intake, ill be ordering it this weekend. im STILL waiting on my new springs and rear struts. i have all my new brakes stuff waiting for install.

BlackJack
02-12-2011, 04:56 PM
Excellent. I'm certain you'll be pleased with it. I know I have enjoyed the gains from the upgrades.

billytheman1188
02-12-2011, 07:01 PM
Nice...def have to do some pics of the install if possible :)

jabartram
02-14-2011, 01:28 AM
what size is the factory MAF? im about to spend money on a 65mm T/b and it would be senseless if my stock maf is smaller.

AleroB888
02-14-2011, 01:49 AM
what size is the factory MAF? im about to spend money on a 65mm T/b and it would be senseless if my stock maf is smaller.

2 5/8 inside diameter, you should do fine with a stock MAF.

Cliff8928
02-14-2011, 02:22 AM
That's 66.675mm for the mathematically challenged... Or lazy ones who don't want to convert it.

kwhauck
02-15-2011, 04:24 PM
James I can't give you the specifics for the 3500 upper swap, when I did mine it was a TOTAL custom setup. I didn't even have the entire neck from the upper. It was removed from the plenum and replaced with a 3" pipe with huge TB plate at the end, and custom angled to clear that big turbo.

Observe: http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/qaddamage/myturbo/phase%202/

Here is the start of my custom 3500 UIM swap.....still have some cutting and grinding to do........

Now I am just waiting on the heater core/intercooler to machine the custom plate that will be welded onto this hacked up manifold.....

jabartram
02-18-2011, 12:47 AM
finally ordered the 3500 intake setup tonight. i need a wiring diagram so i can make an adapter for the new style map sensor.

Cliff8928
02-18-2011, 01:54 AM
Here ya go... Old and new..

jawa
02-18-2011, 10:33 PM
Could the TB from the 3500 be used in the alero ?

Cliff8928
02-19-2011, 01:21 AM
Aren't all 3500s drive-by-wire?

Not to say it's impossible, but it would certainly be a daunting installation.

jawa
02-19-2011, 12:14 PM
Observe: http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...rbo/phase%202/


that thing had to be a rocket ship that screamed for hondas lol

clutch1
02-19-2011, 05:10 PM
They make bigass throttle bodies that fit on the 3500 UIM just fine I know. No worries about DBW