3.4 Build

[donovandishon]

Gonna start building me 3.4......was wondering what parts you guys suggest as far as the motor goes....lifters cams heads ect give me some ideas

[03Sleepr]

http://wot-tech.com/shop/la1-3400-performance-parts/cat_55.html

Go crazy

and keep us updated...after I get my suspension/brakes started I may start building my engine

[Chipmunk-Alero]

what do you want, low compression with boost or high compression n/a.

Id like to see a 11:5:1 3400, with over .550 lift cam, and bad ass heads. Sorry thats just what I want. :scpimp: :lol:

[Redog]

At that point, it's not streetable.

I'm looking to have 10.5:1 CR with a 3400 .020 over with the heads I bought from MFuller. Already have the "stage 2" P&P manis, LS6 springs, 3500 valves, in the car along with headers.

I'm waiting on my Street/Strip cam which is .506/.506 which is 276/264 Duration .006 and at .050 is 224/212

As far as the main question, I would buy the heads,mani package for the best port matching. Lifters, stock is fine, rocker arms hold off on. Ben is working with Crane to get a good set for 99+ roller rockers

[kwhauck]

what do you want, low compression with boost or high compression n/a.

Id like to see a 11:5:1 3400, with over .550 lift cam, and bad ass heads. Sorry thats just what I want. :scpimp: :lol:

why not high compression with boost? :coolio:

[xXManwhoreXx]

why not high compression with boost? :coolio:

In for the part out :p

[mfuller]

Id like to see a 11:5:1 3400, with over .550 lift cam, and bad ass heads. Sorry thats just what I want. :scpimp: :lol:

If I can get someone (or someones) to buy my old motor I may go this route.....

[hok666]

I think you should ship people there parts that they paid for first!

[mfuller]

I think you should ship people there parts that they paid for first!
Huh? Was that directed at me?
If so, I have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

[hok666]

no the person that started this thread

[alerored04]

Redog have you spoke with Ben about those springs and that much lift? When I did my cam I had talked to him about being able to get ls6 springs cheap and he advised against it, suggesting the comp cams 2696 would be much better on my setup for longevity.

[kwhauck]

Redog have you spoke with Ben about those springs and that much lift? When I did my cam I had talked to him about being able to get ls6 springs cheap and he advised against it, suggesting the comp cams 2696 would be much better on my setup for longevity.

Very true, ben mentioned the same thing to me, the comp 26986 springs would be a much better choice....

[Chipmunk-Alero]

what do you want, low compression with boost or high compression n/a.

Id like to see a 11:5:1 3400, with over .550 lift cam, and bad ass heads. Sorry thats just what I want. :scpimp: :lol:

why not high compression with boost? :coolio:

I dont know about that.

If I can get someone (or someones) to buy my old motor I may go this route.....

That's whatsup. I know it wouldn't be streetable but how would it do?

[xXManwhoreXx]

Why would a high comp turbo build not work...

[kwhauck]

I dont know about that.

a high comp, turbo build would work great!


That's whatsup. I know it wouldn't be streetable but how would it do?

That setup could be streetable for sure, it isn't that extreme...

[Redog]

Redog have you spoke with Ben about those springs and that much lift? When I did my cam I had talked to him about being able to get ls6 springs cheap and he advised against it, suggesting the comp cams 2696 would be much better on my setup for longevity.

No I never did talk to Ben about it, but I just figured if I was going with a .506 lift cam, these would be fine, since they are rated up to .510 lift.

If need be, I could always buy new springs when I do my rebuild

[xXManwhoreXx]

a high comp, turbo build would work great

High comp FI is always great! The issues with it is finding a tuner who feels comfortable tuning it.

[kwhauck]

High comp FI is always great! The issues with it is finding a tuner who feels comfortable tuning it.

very true, and one who you trust enough not to blow the 5k you got in a motor!

[xXManwhoreXx]

very true, and one who you trust enough not to blow the 5k you got in a motor!

No doubt. I would probably just end up getting HP tuners and doing it all myself as I am the only person I trust with my car besides a few close friends.

[mfuller]

I'm getting some supplies from Greg Banish to help me dial this sucker in.

[xXManwhoreXx]

Good luck buddy

[kwhauck]

I'm getting some supplies from Greg Banish to help me dial this sucker in.

I would love to take a tuning class from him!

[BlueLego]

i wouldn't do high comp FI, especially as a daily driver.

[kwhauck]

i wouldn't do high comp FI, especially as a daily driver.

Who daily drives their alero anyways! I'm afraid somebody will scratch it!

[xXManwhoreXx]

Who daily drives their alero anyways! I'm afraid somebody will scratch it!

I Lol'd I wish I had enough monies where I didn't have to DD my hoe

[kwhauck]

Just get married, it helped me out....lol

[03Sleepr]

8mpg in a beast truck > Alero as a DD...except on trips over 30 mi lol..

[kwhauck]

8mpg in a beast truck > Alero as a DD...except on trips over 30 mi lol..

The more parts I put on the alero, the more i am afraid somebody will hit me, so I drive anything over the alero as the dd,

final 500 bravada
beater 03 corolla

or in the summer the 04 600f4i

[xXManwhoreXx]

Just get married, it helped me out....lol

Some day

[03Sleepr]

I would be worried sick about driving a final 500 as a DD...now for the corolla? thats a ditch jumper...

[kwhauck]

I would be worried sick about driving a final 500 as a DD...now for the corolla? thats a ditch jumper...

I was for awhile, but truth be told, we bought it as a family vehicle, and that is what it will be for another 3-5years until we upgrade, and then it will get retired to the garage.....

[xXManwhoreXx]

the 04 600f4i

Honda huh.....

:rolleyes2:

[kwhauck]

lol......yeps, but it's debadged so i'm not as ashamed......lol

[xXManwhoreXx]

lol......yeps, but it's debadged so i'm not as ashamed......lol

:p you got anything done to it?

[kwhauck]

:p you got anything done to it?

DandD race pipe (really loud)
Toothed down sprocket with new chain

Gonna order some new fairing when summer comes, but I really don't care how fast it goes seeing as it is really just a commuter vehicle for me. I have friends that go and hit the twisties in the hills here doing triple digits, screw that, i'm a pansy!

[xXManwhoreXx]

DandD race pipe (really loud)
Toothed down sprocket with new chain

Gonna order some new fairing when summer comes, but I really don't care how fast it goes seeing as it is really just a commuter vehicle for me. I have friends that go and hit the twisties in the hills here doing triple digits, screw that, i'm a pansy!

Ohh alright a bunch of my buddies all do stunt shows and stuff on weekend.

and yea D&D pipes are loud as hell

[XanderWiFi]

At that point, it's not streetable.

I'm looking to have 10.5:1 CR with a 3400 .020 over with the heads I bought from MFuller. Already have the "stage 2" P&P manis, LS6 springs, 3500 valves, in the car along with headers.

I'm waiting on my Street/Strip cam which is .506/.506 which is 276/264 Duration .006 and at .050 is 224/212

As far as the main question, I would buy the heads,mani package for the best port matching. Lifters, stock is fine, rocker arms hold off on. Ben is working with Crane to get a good set for 99+ roller rockers


What makes a car not streetable? A certain engin component or exhaust?

[kwhauck]

depends on the driver/owner of the vehicle....

[XanderWiFi]

Any more specifics than that? lol

[kwhauck]

For example, mine and scott's coilover's. Many people would think it would be too stiff for daily driving. I however will still daily drive the alero until I put the built motor in it. Scott also shys away from a lot of driving now because of the OSV bodykit and rims, as well as other stuff that if destroyed in a wreck would be really hard to replace. I however would drive it everyday and let the the insurance figure out how to pay for custom wheels when some tard hits me.......

It basically boils down to the driver/owner and how many inconvenieces they are willing to deal with to daily drive it.

obviously you aren't going to daily drive a car on c16 race gas. However I know some guys that drive their cars 50+ miles in there "streetable" cars that run 8s just to run in a street class drag event.

[xXManwhoreXx]

obviously you aren't going to daily drive a car on c16 race gas. However I know some guys that drive their cars 50+ miles in there "streetable" cars that run 8s just to run in a street class drag event.

Ethanol > race gas

[mfuller]

But running E85 will require significant changes to the fuel system, not the least of which is the need to supply more fuel.

[xXManwhoreXx]

But running E85 will require significant changes to the fuel system, not the least of which is the need to supply more fuel.

But if your at the point that you are using race gas you will probably have injectors and a better fuel pump you can usually get away with stock size fuel lines. Only real issue is the fuel filter cause when you swap to e85 all the crap from your gas tank and line's are going straight to the filter haha... trust me.. injector rehab barely saved them.

[mfuller]

Yes, but you're also forgetting that E85 has some unusual corrosive qualities that will damage your stock fuel lines and seals in short order.
Just fair warning if you're planning to go that route.

[Ttop191]

^ i've heard both sides of that to be honest, it is a rather well debated subject, some say it will others say it won't...

[xXManwhoreXx]

Yes, but you're also forgetting that E85 has some unusual corrosive qualities that will damage your stock fuel lines and seals in short order.
Just fair warning if you're planning to go that route.

That's quite true but still.... 2.20 a gallon here in Indianapolis compared to 3.10 for 89 octane. The pro's and con's kind of even it out for me. Plus turbos really like the e85 :-)

[kwhauck]

I plan on running e85 all the time on my built motor....