View Full Version : After bad oil leak, engine ticks. Help!
dayspring_theory
09-06-2010, 10:30 PM
Well, I was driving home from work and my oil light came on and went off. Came on longer and went off. Finally stayed on and then my valves were all clicking due to only like 1 quart of oil in the engine. Got oil and put 3 1/2 quarts of oil in the engine. Went to close my trunk and it was coated with oil. Not good. Drove it home and found I had a major oil leak. Dropped it at the shop next morning and found out the oil sending unit busted. Got it fixed and now I notice when the engine gets warm I have a valve tick. No loss in power however. Not sure if this can be answered but will this clear up? I was planning on Sea Foaming the car to see if I could get it cleaned up. Any help is greatly appreciated!
[ion] C2
09-06-2010, 10:32 PM
If oil was low enough to cause noise due to metal-on-metal, stuff was damaged.
tunerkid
09-06-2010, 10:35 PM
yuup happened to me
on my 2.2 ecotec it was clicking and then eventually led to a knock
now idk how you drive but with the way i do it was knocking pretty soon afterward. low oil damaged my number 4 rod bearings and those ones ended up spinning. for longer life until you get money i'd recomend getting some oil treatments that treat the metal
Redog
09-06-2010, 10:41 PM
Sorry to say this, but the engine will blow soon.
An asshole that worked for my mech only put 1.5 quarts of oil in my Delta and the same thing happened. Changed the oil, and then I spun a rod
dayspring_theory
09-06-2010, 10:42 PM
I'm praying it's something not too serious. It's a light tick at idle that goes faster when I give it gas but goes away. Cruising around town around 35 MPH I hear it come back when I get off the gas. Under WOT acceleration you can't hear it. Knowing my luck the bearing will spin on the way to work tomorrow and I'll be up you know what creek! lol
Redog
09-06-2010, 10:46 PM
You have low enough oil level to bring on the oil light, so what made you think it was a good idea to floor it? :badidea:
dayspring_theory
09-06-2010, 10:55 PM
Oops, sorry! I should clarify that I floored it AFTER the fix with all the oil in the engine! Tick only seems to be there at idle or low RPM. At about 2,500-4,000 RPM no tick. Actually, all the way to the shift RPM which is about what 5,800 RPM at WOT?
On a side note, IF the Alero does die perhaps I'll get that Mercury Marauder I've been looking at on a dealer's website I found a few days ago? Just a thought... :yahoo:
Ttop191
09-06-2010, 11:00 PM
i'de bet the tick is still there...you just can't hear it cause you're WOTing
zzyzzx
09-07-2010, 09:34 AM
Even if your engine is going to blow, what do you have to lose by just driving the car and ignoring the noise?
Also, what kind fo oil are you using? Just curious since all those synthetic oil adverts imply that driving after running out at least temporarily isn't so bad.
dayspring_theory
09-07-2010, 10:07 AM
HAHAHA! This is the definition of "irony"! Because of the dreaded UIM/LIM gasket issues befallen on this "quality" vehicle from the good folks at GM, I decided that I was wasting my money sinking synthetic in the car so I switched from Mobil 1 synthetic to Castrol GTX. Actually, I first switched to Valvoline synthetic due to an article I read and then really switched to regular oil when I did the job with my brother-in-law. Which was only 4-5 months ago! Yippy yay for me, right?!
Oh, and I was wrong. The tick or knock doesn't go away no matter what RPM.
I don't mean to step on anyone's toes in here, but for a car that is 7 years old a lot of stuff has really gone wrong with it! I had old Mopars that were run to death and then some and lasted longer than what this car has. Just venting....sorry if I ruffled feathers!
zzyzzx
09-07-2010, 10:43 AM
How many miles are on the car?
Seriously, even semi synthetic would have been much better in your case.
tunerkid
09-07-2010, 07:07 PM
yaaaa and i bet you hear it real good at high rpm's. i'd like to tell you don't worry it should br fine. but we all know it's ganna blow. your most likely going to spin a rod bearing do to the high heat friction that messed up and over heated the bearing. sorry man. might wanna look into some bearings and a possible crank turn.
dayspring_theory
09-07-2010, 09:18 PM
126,000...maybe closer to 127,000. Somewhere in that ballpark.
[ion] C2
09-07-2010, 09:41 PM
I don't mean to step on anyone's toes in here, but for a car that is 7 years old a lot of stuff has really gone wrong with it! I had old Mopars that were run to death and then some and lasted longer than what this car has. Just venting....sorry if I ruffled feathers!
:nuts:
Take care of your shit and it won't break as often. There's a reason they call them dummy lights.
heineck
09-07-2010, 10:28 PM
C2;554990']:nuts:
Take care of your shit and it won't break as often. There's a reason they call them dummy lights.
:emotlol: :emotlol: :emotlol: :emotlol:
Caboose73
09-07-2010, 10:46 PM
Ya take any car and put 1 quart of oil in it and see how long it lasts
dayspring_theory
09-08-2010, 12:23 AM
C2;554990']:nuts:
Take care of your shit and it won't break as often. There's a reason they call them dummy lights.
Wow....yeah, I guess you're right. I mean if I could have prevented the oil sending unit from busting on the interstate at 9:30 pm... but then again I don't take care of my "shit".
Whatever, dude...
Redog
09-08-2010, 01:15 AM
Hey at least he's not like the guys in the past. Totally fucked up their car and then come on here and cry about how much of a POS an Alero or American cars in general.
The past few dumb ass kids that did this have moved on, and bought either a Japanese or European, err I mean, a Mexican car, and most likey did not take care of that car either and it blew up and they went on that car's fourm and said what a POS their car is, again.
I don't really think this guy falls in this group. I mean I don't really think it was too smart to go WOT when he heard the ticking, but that's really the only thing he said that was a mistake. The other mistake, was not pulling over ASAP when that oil light came on and turned the car off. But you live and learn. Come on, some of us have been there before ;)
dayspring_theory
09-08-2010, 01:41 AM
Looking back I wish I had pulled my car off to the side of the road. I think we all have had the "when it rains it pours" feeling with any car. I have been overwhelmed with the UIM/LIM issue, the mysterious oil sending unit busting and leaking oil like a stuck pig, and then normal wear and tear that I've not been able to take care of due to health and financial issues. Of course, my own personal issues is something you guys don't care to hear about and I'll spare you the details.
Like I said before, I never meant to upset anyone with my own feelings about my car. I've had good times and bad times with my Alero, as with all my vehicles in the past. If I offended anyone, I do apologize.
[ion] C2
09-08-2010, 07:19 AM
Wow....yeah, I guess you're right. I mean if I could have prevented the oil sending unit from busting on the interstate at 9:30 pm... but then again I don't take care of my "shit".
Whatever, dude...
I was saying in general when you mentioned you "had old Mopars" that were inherently better than this car. What exactly has gone wrong with your Alero since you purchased it? I can tell you what happened to mine. Battery, caliper, brake pads/rotors. Wow. 10 years old and 208,000 miles. And now built, raced, etc. Original engine has 240,000+ miles and is running perfectly in another car.
You probably would've noticed oil leaking from that area if you popped the hood once in a while, and been able to do preventative maintenance. I've never heard of the oil pressure sensor just blowing apart. It usually leaks slowly.
dayspring_theory
09-08-2010, 07:58 AM
You know, there are good and bad in all makes of cars I guess. Believe me when I say that I think it's awesome your car has lasted a long time. Now, some of the things I list about my Alero may sound small to you, but in my opinion in a fairly new car it shouldn't happen. First off, which in my book is totally unacceptable in any car is the UIM/LIM failure. Second would be the oil sending unit failure. I've never heard of one "busting". Oil was pouring from under my car. Next in line, not as bad but still an issue, was both front wheel hubs. Also, I need to replace another one due to the ABS sensor going out, but it's an aftermarket part. No biggie. Smaller things which was aggravating were the driver's side windshield trim falling off on its own, all three knobs for the climate control unit stripped, security light coming on (hasn't done that for a while), both windows do not roll up and down anymore (I'll be honest, that may be my own fault!). I must admit that maintenance was not as good as it should have been due to my medical conditions. I really should have done the UIM/LIM fix sooner. It could be that it along with the recent loss of oil combined together and caused the issue I have now. I felt I took good care of this car, but perhaps I didn't.
zzyzzx
09-08-2010, 09:27 AM
C2;555028'] I've never heard of the oil pressure sensor just blowing apart. It usually leaks slowly.
Same here, but if it were a carppy replacement oil sending unit made of plastic, often sold at palces like Advance Auto/Autozone/Pep Boys and made in China, nothing would suprize me.
[ion] C2
09-08-2010, 12:24 PM
Wheel hubs are one of the biggest sellers in auto parts, regardless of make/model. Window motors, regulators come in a close second. Those types of things occur on every vehicle that has power windows or hub/bearing assemblies. Those that don't have an entire assembly, people replace the bearings every time the rotor is changed. It's a matter of maintenance and the way cars are designed nowadays prevents you from doing certain usual maintenance items like that.
The UIM/LIM is a weak gasket issue that the 3400 and other V6s encounter from the factory; the 4-cylinders have no issues.
Maybe I got one of the cars built on a good day... lol
Spike440
09-08-2010, 10:50 PM
C2;555051']Wheel hubs are one of the biggest sellers in auto parts, regardless of make/model. Window motors, regulators come in a close second. Those types of things occur on every vehicle that has power windows or hub/bearing assemblies. Those that don't have an entire assembly, people replace the bearings every time the rotor is changed. It's a matter of maintenance and the way cars are designed nowadays prevents you from doing certain usual maintenance items like that.
The UIM/LIM is a weak gasket issue that the 3400 and other V6s encounter from the factory; the 4-cylinders have no issues.
Maybe I got one of the cars built on a good day... lol
Mine must be a friday car when it was built in lansing :(
zzyzzx
09-09-2010, 09:13 AM
C2;555051']Wheel hubs are one of the biggest sellers in auto parts, regardless of make/model. Window motors, regulators come in a close second.
I've never had to replace any of these, execpt for one window regulator that I broke the plastic gears tryig to open the window when it was frozen.
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