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clutch1
04-09-2010, 10:05 PM
I didn't believe it myself, but for my automotive class today I decided I'd do a thorough injector clean on my Buick, since I'm sure it's never been done and I don't plan on selling it any time soon.

This included an in-tank chemical, super concentrated rail-cleaner, and intake de-carbon (like seafoam I imagine).

You start by disabling the fuel pump, because the cleaner is also a fuel... the car runs on it for around 10 minutes! Cool!! Then you fill a pressure cell with the cleaner, and hook it into the test port on the rail (Schroeder valve). You set pressure to 5-10psi below fuel pressure (I set to 30psi), Then you unplug the vacuum regulator, open the valve and start the car!

While it runs the only thing it's running on is the cleaner, which is pretty brutal, cleaning the rail, injectors, and even piston rings as it's burned through. While that's going on you run the intake cleaner through the intake (pcv hole works), and it attacks the carbon buildups and it circulates.

Finally the car dies when the cleaner's gone, you pour the in-tank cleaner into the tank, and remove the throttle body for final decarboning.... and OMG did mine need it, suuuuuper thick layer on the back of the throttle plate.. no wonder it stuck really bad. Great fix for a throttle that pops.

Then I re enabled the fuel pump and tested it out... my fuel trims went waaaaay down, don't remember the numbers, but that means lots of fuel was taken away that wasn't needed anymore now that the injectors were cleaner. And on my drive home, and 60mph cruise I was at 37mpg, up from around 30mpg at 60 mph previously.

Def a good service to do, I'm sold, and I didn't believe it. Just thought I'd share with you guys if y'all are considering it!!

pimpalero2003
04-09-2010, 10:59 PM
How much does that cost

XanderWiFi
04-09-2010, 11:10 PM
I'm interested in getting my injector system cleared as well. I do the de-carbonizing about every oil change and that alone works wonders. Anyone have a how to guide to remove and clean the throttle body? Any how to guides to remove and clean any engine component?

Clutch, can you list or show the equipment you used for all of this? I would like to acquire it as I am sure that the dealers only really do this and they are always expensive as hell...

clutch1
04-10-2010, 01:53 PM
We use BG stuff:

http://www.bgprod.com/products/fuelair2.html

BG 9210 Inject-A-Flush® Apparatus: injects the stuff to the rail
BG Fuel Injection System Cleaner: the stuff that goes into the inject-a-flush

Also, for continued cleaning:
BG 44K® Power Enhancer®

And then any normal carb/intake cleaner for de-carboning.


The kit of injector cleaner, 44k, and intake cleaner is $35 cost where I'm at. Dunno how much that pressurized injector is, but you COULD build your own if you wanted.. just a pressurized vessel, a shutoff switch, and a regulator.

Probably would be about $100-$150 if a dealer did it though..

comanche
04-10-2010, 03:29 PM
LOL

Just did the same thing in MY fuels class.
Unfortunately, I did it on my Saturn with 239k, and it's not a regular return system, so the injectors didn't get flushed.
So I'm going to get some new injector screens if I can find them.

We used the Motorvac brand system.

For anyone interested, this type of fuel system clean could make a huge difference for either the 2.4L or especially the 3.4L.

clutch1
04-10-2010, 03:55 PM
Ah yea, returnless = lots of shit at the end of the rail.

spyhunter
04-10-2010, 07:35 PM
also if anybody is interested. the 2.4L twin cam does not have a schraeder valve.

Ryan from Ohio
04-10-2010, 08:04 PM
This sounds like it could be beneficial.

How long does the process take?

I might look into having this done. Im always scared a shop wont do it at all or do it improperly. So is there anything to look for?

clutch1
04-11-2010, 01:26 AM
also if anybody is interested. the 2.4L twin cam does not have a schraeder valve.

Just means ya gotta tap into the rail a different way, they make adapter fittings.

The process is like.. 15 minutes of actually running the car for cleaning, plus a bit more if they actually remove the throttle body for cleaning.

Not really sure what to look for, but I'd ask them to outlines their process if you want to make sure they're thorough.

XanderWiFi
05-16-2010, 12:47 PM
clutch, any chance you would set up a how-to on all of this? With the pics, products and equipment and whatnot. Some of us are more visual learners-as I found to be true in my case of female selection haha.

Runaboveit
05-17-2010, 03:40 PM
Ah, this reminds me of a video I watched on youtube (injector cleaning part anyway). It's a DIY system. Take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKGI9N_yWd0