And So It Begins...The Repairs [Archive]

Nate's Alero

12-31-2009, 10:05 PM

Well... she's down and out... i have 1,500 to work with... EVERYTHING is getting fixed...

start off... engine..

Headgaskets..

i was driving, yesdarday, With Ttop191..and the low coolant light came on..
after doing a redoculus Acell out of a stop light.. well. he got me some coolant.. and i filled it to the neck of the surge tank (the surge tank was also all black, it's brand new) and all that come out was a flurry of bubbles.. uh oh...

got it home... got progressively worse, and i checked everything...

all points to a front head being blown on cyl's one and two...(reason for P0202 for ages....) so.... pics for your enjoyment...

[ion] C2

12-31-2009, 10:16 PM

http://ion-productions.com/chew.gif

Ttop191

12-31-2009, 10:22 PM

C2;517483']http://ion-productions.com/chew.gif

:haha: NOM :popcorn: NOM :haha:

A57

12-31-2009, 11:37 PM

Well have fun drink some beer's and Pm me if you need help.......

Oh good luck..

Nate's Alero

01-01-2010, 07:05 AM

oh, haha....i've done countless HG's.... it's like butter for me.... one Q already.... WTF is that big silver ring in the HG kit for?

AZFire316

01-01-2010, 07:21 AM

How long were you driving on that old blown gasket?

Nate's Alero

01-01-2010, 07:24 AM

How long were you driving on that old blown gasket?

mmmmmmm, maybe three months with a VERY VERY VERY slight leak (i used to have to top off the coolant, maybe every month....,and this past week it became hard to start.. i knew it was gone and kept checking different things like the oil, and coolant, so not long..and the last day was the day it officially blew... so i limped it home (not very bad, still no smoke/overheating) and parked it and tore it apart

AZFire316

01-01-2010, 08:44 AM

Sounds like you've had some bad luck with the car lately, last thing I'd want you to have is bad bearings later on.

JLw7123

01-01-2010, 10:58 AM

well at lease he is fixing it not junking it. were are you going to fix the car.

A57

01-01-2010, 11:14 AM

oh, haha....i've done countless HG's.... it's like butter for me.... one Q already.... WTF is that big silver ring in the HG kit for?

From what i saw in your pics it looks like the ring spacer for the headgasket, what did the parts list on the box say?

i bet its for the exhaust flange near the stat housing...

Ryan from Ohio

01-01-2010, 12:50 PM

I hope you dont intend on installing those SHIT LIMG's into that motor!

Thats almost a damned crime!

[ion] C2

01-01-2010, 01:18 PM

oh, haha....i've done countless HG's....

get it right this time
lol

JLw7123

01-01-2010, 01:23 PM

I hope he does get it right this time. But this is just temporary because I am going to help him build the engine in the spring and summer. nate did u get the MLS gaskets.

Ryan from Ohio

01-01-2010, 01:38 PM

For that he would be better off finding another engine to use.

So hes got a back up plan.

Nate's Alero

01-01-2010, 02:36 PM

C2;517549']get it right this time
lol
not on my car......lol

JLw7123

01-01-2010, 02:44 PM

I knew that you would just fix the car not junk it.

Nate's Alero

01-01-2010, 02:55 PM

Pics Lol

JLw7123

01-01-2010, 02:57 PM

OMG wow have not seen anything that bad before. how is the engine looking now have you gotten the new gaskets put in yet. aren't you going to put new ones in when u build.

cherrington17

01-01-2010, 03:14 PM

i could have swore i saw that same picture in another thread nate had...

hmm...

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26184&highlight=headgasket

you already did a headgasket job on this.... what'd you do wrong that time?

Nate's Alero

01-01-2010, 05:33 PM

JLw7123

01-01-2010, 06:53 PM

well lets hope these gaskets last longer this time.

rustyballs_69

01-01-2010, 10:29 PM

used the worlds worst gaskets...:-D

If your using the gaskets you have pictured above then your using the worlds worst gaskets. As ryan stated "I hope you dont intend on installing those SHIT LIMG's into that motor!

Thats almost a damned crime!"

You have been on Aleromod enough to know the plastic gaskets are junk and you just wasted money.

JLw7123

01-01-2010, 10:32 PM

I thought that he would have gotten the MLS gaskets.

Ryan from Ohio

01-01-2010, 10:45 PM

Nate just got pimp slapped by stupidity.

I hope he pulls through with the proper gaskets. Buying a set with the shitty LIMG was silly though. Just the plastic ones run like $50ish... Im sure that cost was included in that kit...

A57

01-02-2010, 10:45 AM

Fel-pro has the best you can buy depending on the application, there maybe others sold at different auto parts store's...
I used the LIM kit from felpro and i didn't have any issue's...

Nate's Alero

01-02-2010, 01:45 PM

i have 3500 heads guys, just letting you know...

JLw7123

01-02-2010, 01:51 PM

nice didn't u do a 3500 top engine swap.

clutch1

01-02-2010, 03:21 PM

My buddy did that on a GP 3100 engine... nothing but troubles with the pushrods.

The ones that were sent were too short ( sounded like a damn diesel, LOL!), and the stock ones... although they SEEMED to be just a hair longer, ended up bending for something..

What a pain :S

At least your is working.. so far, aside from gasket troubles.

Nate's Alero

01-02-2010, 04:03 PM

anyone know anything about the heater core hoses? they're like a quick disconnect...and i disconnected mine and now it's wont stop leaking, is there like a gasket i need to replace?

WhiteV6

01-02-2010, 05:57 PM

WhiteV6

01-02-2010, 05:58 PM

Should have an O ring in there with a quick disconnect setup. You can't seal metal to metal easily without one.

Nate's Alero

01-02-2010, 07:10 PM

metal to rubber btw

just gonna hack the QD off, and connect it the correct way..

IT LIVES EVERYONE!! MUHAHAH

Ryan from Ohio

01-02-2010, 09:09 PM

For now until that LIMG lets go.

Nate's Alero

01-02-2010, 09:17 PM

For now until that LIMG lets go.

why would it? i have REV III metal gaskets?

rustyballs_69

01-02-2010, 09:19 PM

Then why post pictures of plastic limgs?

Nate's Alero

01-02-2010, 09:21 PM

Then why post pictures of plastic limgs?

they were returned

rustyballs_69

01-02-2010, 09:30 PM

they were returned

Good job Nate.

WhiteV6

01-02-2010, 11:29 PM

3500s don't have 3 revisions...

01silveralero

01-03-2010, 12:24 AM

3500s don't have 3 revisions...

he probably put it back together with the 3400 heads lol.

Nate's Alero

01-03-2010, 04:34 PM

he probably put it back together with the 3400 heads lol.

O_o........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f0S_8OQMnA

enjoy!

JLw7123

01-03-2010, 09:24 PM

nice it is ALIVE again. ya the exhaust is louder.

01silveralero

01-03-2010, 11:31 PM

O_o........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f0S_8OQMnA

enjoy!

i didnt know until that video that you had duels.

clutch1

01-04-2010, 04:57 AM

huh? They are the same pushrods from 1994 to 2006. Only way they are wrong is if they are installed wrong.

*shrug* I dunno, I wasn't a big player in that project, just poked my head in from time to time to see what was up.

Nate's Alero

01-04-2010, 06:53 AM

i didnt know until that video that you had duels.

huh? i have a lot more than duels... Ported Stock manifolds (done at a local speedshop... he did a bad job..but an alternative to 800$ headers...for now..)

3500 Heads..

3500 LIM

3400 UIM with TCE Spacers

Crap winter WAI

Ebay two piece CAI for summer

Tuned PCM (needed it reworked.. some new things happened and the tune was off)

2.5" piping all the way to the back.

AtomicX

01-04-2010, 07:35 AM

huh? i have a lot more than duels... Ported Stock manifolds (done at a local speedshop... he did a bad job..but an alternative to 800$ headers...for now..)

3500 Heads..

3500 LIM

3400 UIM with TCE Spacers

Crap winter WAI

Ebay two piece CAI for summer

Tuned PCM (needed it reworked.. some new things happened and the tune was off)

2.5" piping all the way to the back.
Could you take a pic of the exhaust I want to see how you routed the dual 2.5'' piping.

Rexter9x

01-04-2010, 08:44 AM

You seem to have the same dead spots on your gauges as me, although holy hell are yours alot brighter than mine lol. What type of leds did you use?

kwhauck

01-04-2010, 09:08 AM

two question for when you had it torn down so far....

1. Why not an EGR delete?

2. Why not a camshaft?

Nate's Alero

01-04-2010, 11:04 AM

two question for when you had it torn down so far....

1. Why not an EGR delete?

2. Why not a camshaft?

no idea and i have a cam..... will get specs when i get home..... its realllllllly mild though

kwhauck

01-04-2010, 11:46 AM

no idea and i have a cam..... will get specs when i get home..... its realllllllly mild though

that sucks, should have a got a big lumpy....oh well, but why not install it since you had it when the motor was torn down so far?

AZFire316

01-04-2010, 02:47 PM

yeah, I have weird people asking me all the time if my alero is a v8, with a cam, will add to their confusion, lol.

Vic28

01-04-2010, 03:19 PM

that sucks, should have a got a big lumpy....oh well, but why not install it since you had it when the motor was torn down so far?

I think he meant thats is installed on the car already..

IRONDOG442

01-04-2010, 03:50 PM

Ttop191

01-04-2010, 05:16 PM

and it still runs 15s Ohhhhhhh SNAP!!!!!

14.9s :D

kwhauck

01-04-2010, 05:26 PM

still haven't seen proof, but it is possible with exhaust, cam, tune, 3500 swap.....

Nate's Alero

01-04-2010, 05:26 PM

14.9s :D

thx.... and he was in the car first hand.. when i laid 200ft of rubber with a blown headgasket :scpimp:

kwhauck

01-04-2010, 05:28 PM

g-meters, ipod meters, and any of that ricer shit doesn't count for recording 1/4 times....

Nate's Alero

01-04-2010, 05:29 PM

g-meters, ipod meters, and any of that ricer shit doesn't count for recording 1/4 times....

never was... NED where it was... and i'm gonna have ttop191, Andy T3..and others there when i do it again

kwhauck

01-04-2010, 05:30 PM

sweet!! make sure you post up a slip!!!

Nate's Alero

01-04-2010, 05:33 PM

sweet!! make sure you post up a slip!!!

and video.. and i'll have the other guys confirm it was me... so stop hagglin me!

kwhauck

01-04-2010, 05:48 PM

lol.......i'm just giving you a hard time.....

Nate's Alero

01-04-2010, 06:01 PM

lol.......i'm just giving you a hard time.....

i know, i know it's hard to believe, but am NOT lying... i really did run it... i wanna run faster by then... i really don't like FI because it's so finicky.. N/A is ok, and the Stock 3400 was really more then enough power... i'm not a speed demon..but that.. little "umph" is really nice to have

Vic28

01-04-2010, 06:26 PM

lol in the cold anyone can lose traction, especially you with summer tires.

Nate's Alero

01-05-2010, 12:17 PM

lol in the cold anyone can lose traction, especially you with summer tires.

it was not cold, and i have winter tires on stock 15" rims

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxNHYpjJPV8

'Nother movie for ya all

cherrington17

01-05-2010, 01:13 PM

why do you keep making videos?

AtomicX

01-05-2010, 01:23 PM

why do you keep making videos?

Wondering the same thing.

Ttop191

01-05-2010, 01:23 PM

really, wasting my time with those useless things :p

Nate's Alero

01-05-2010, 03:32 PM

because i do... deal with it

JLw7123

01-05-2010, 04:45 PM

never was... NED where it was... and i'm gonna have ttop191, Andy T3..and others there when i do it again
ya i will go are you going to the track in epping. this is going to have to be before ASS. how about in april or may. at NE dragway.

JLw7123

01-05-2010, 04:46 PM

i know, i know it's hard to believe, but am NOT lying... i really did run it... i wanna run faster by then... i really don't like FI because it's so finicky.. N/A is ok, and the Stock 3400 was really more then enough power... i'm not a speed demon..but that.. little "umph" is really nice to have
nate your a speed demon.

AtomicX

01-05-2010, 09:08 PM

ya i will go are you going to the track in epping. this is going to have to be before ASS. how about in april or may. at NE dragway.

Ill be at the track too with my Juiced Alero =]

Nate's Alero

01-05-2010, 09:09 PM

Ill be at the track too with my Juiced Alero =]

and leave with one less rod

clutch1

01-06-2010, 02:18 AM

Ill be at the track too with my Juiced Alero =]

Since when did you have hydraulics?!
:p

JLw7123

01-06-2010, 11:48 AM

and leave with one less rod
so nate are you going to put NOS in your car it would be awesome. are you going to race your car at ASS.

Nate's Alero

01-06-2010, 12:03 PM

so nate are you going to put NOS in your car it would be awesome. are you going to race your car at ASS.

no...and no... NOS is for weenies (unless you have supporting mods, and need it to spool a turbo)

JLw7123

01-06-2010, 12:13 PM

why are you not racing ur car at ASS because you might have a different car by then.

AtomicX

01-06-2010, 12:14 PM

no...and no... NOS is for weenies (unless you have supporting mods, and need it to spool a turbo)

Really now.

Nate's Alero

01-06-2010, 12:20 PM

Really now.

i dont know man, i know it's fast power... and i was not insulting you... i just dont like it... improperly used, it can destroy things...

JLw7123

01-06-2010, 12:49 PM

ya that is true it can destroy your engine but it you use the right about of shot and have a built engine it should be good.

AtomicX

01-06-2010, 12:59 PM

ya that is true it can destroy your engine but it you use the right about of shot and have a built engine it should be good.

People usually use dry shots with cause them to go lean which leads to detonation.