motor blew

[Alerojester]

Ok so in march i bought a 2001 two door, drove it for about 4 months and it started knocking i checked the oil and it was about a quart low, added oil then it blew??? i wasn't very happy that car is my baby and now i am debating on dropping another 2.4 in it or go custom with a 3.8 stage two supercharger??? what should i do i am missing my baby and i want to get her running gain any advice or suggestions on what i should do?????????

[[ion] C2]

it blew = ?

Parts scattered around the ground, gaping holes in the engine, it runs but poorly, it doesn't turn over, what?

[JLw7123]

how did u know that the engine is blown

[twagn]

Added a quart of oil and then it blew..:eek: What kind of oil was that?

[Alerojester]

it won't turn over, bottom end is seized. i added 5w30 to it

[Alerojester]

i mean i love my 2.4 for the gas milage, i keep getting told to scrap the car and get a different one but i love it so much that i just want to get it running and keep it running without this problem, so we looked at the motor after it seized and found out that it wasn't even the factory motor its a junk yard motor with bad sensors, that could be why it never told me that it was low on oil....... should i keep with the 2.4 or what???? i want a one of a kind car here in Iowa there are a bunch of them here with body kits and rims and small mods but nothing with nonfactory motor in them...... i want to drop the supercharged 3800 in it but i don't know if that would be wise i would love some perspective of my fellow forum people........

[cherrington17]

i've heard its a crap load of work to get the 3800 to work/fit properly.

i'd get another 2.4 and build/boost it.

[twagn]

3.5 dual cam Intrigue motor would be cool if it fit

[Alerojester]

boosting the 2.4 was my other idea, i have found another motor for $500 with 94k miles on it which is 400 miles less than mine has... I mean boosting it would be fun it would be the only one where i live.

[Nate's Alero]

you must beat the living piss out of it...... 101K miles!?!

[colonel6632]

i bought my alero with 95000km on it. it was a 2002 with a 2.2 ecotec. at 99000km (61500) the motor blew... sorta. burned 5L of oil in 4000km. and i didn't know that it burned all the oil already.

[Nate's Alero]

i bought my alero with 95000km on it. it was a 2002 with a 2.2 ecotec. at 99000km (61500) the motor blew... sorta. burned 5L of oil in 4000km. and i didn't know that it burned all the oil already.

uh.............................

[Alerojester]

you must beat the living piss out of it...... 101K miles!?!

actually i babied it, i didn't really get on it unless i was on the highway passing people other than that no it was driven responseably

[colonel6632]

uh.............................

yup. i got it, checked the oil. it was full. went on a vacation and didn't check it. and then it ran with no oil. but it was still covered by warrant. paid 7k for the car. the new motor cost 7k, all i had to pay was $110 for the deductable

[Redog]

the 3800 is way overrated.

Yes it can fit, yes it can be fast, yes it's not worth the work IMO when a 2.4 or a 3400 and be built the same

[jayson_waltz]

no to 3.8, go with another 2.4. my 2.4 spun a bearing and bent a rod at 94,000 miles so don't feel to bad, and that was 6 days after i bought it :( . it was abused b4 i had it, old rental car from somewhere in nj according to the gm dealer records. i just stuck in another 2.4 with only 30k on it at the time out of a wrecked 98 cav and $800 bucks later it worked great again. 10k later and it still runs great. i love how my engine only has ~40k on it :)

[worknprog.99]

an engine replacement costed 7k ??

[colonel6632]

an engine replacement costed 7k ??

yup. thats what the paper work shows. that includes new block and everything

[worknprog.99]

wow lol.. i woulda taken a 7k check lol

[colonel6632]

wish it would of worked like that. i would of paid the car off and just found another 2.2 cheap

[[ion] C2]

What the hell? Someone deleted my post. Seriously what the f*** administrators?

I asked the guy if he was able to turn the crankshaft by hand, it's a 1 1/16" wrench. I asked if the engine blew up or stopped running while he was driving it or if it was something he just noticed one day when he went to go start it, because maybe it's just the starter. He hasn't really given any specifics on what happened so we don't know what's up.

[zzyzzx]

yup. thats what the paper work shows. that includes new block and everything

Can you post the info from the reciept?

I had a Japser engine put in my Escort once, and it cost $3950, and I thought that was expensive.

[zzyzzx]

boosting the 2.4 was my other idea, i have found another motor for $500 with 94k miles on it which is 400 miles less than mine has... I mean boosting it would be fun it would be the only one where i live.

you must beat the living piss out of it...... 101K miles!?!


Hmmmm 94,000 + 400 = 94,400, not 101,000

[[ion] C2]

an engine replacement costed 7k ??
haha x2

my built engine only cost about $2100 ($1300 parts, $800 build)

[twagn]

paid 7k for the car

Ouch:cry:

[colonel6632]

i'll scan it up for you guys sometime soon

- edit -
heres the picts sorry they are a little big. you may want to download them and then use a zoom tool on windows or something. but they are huge. and i lied. it was only $6800

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6529/smpbill001.th.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/smpbill001.jpg/)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6484/smpbill002.th.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/smpbill002.jpg/)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/77/smpbill003.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/smpbill003.jpg/)

[AndyT3]

Wow, still seems like a lot for an engine, but oh well...

[jayson_waltz]

^not really for a brand new gm crate engine. and its CAD remember, its always more expensive up there.

[AndyT3]

^not really for a brand new gm crate engine. and its CAD remember, its always more expensive up there.

Yeah, thats true. Didn't think about the geographic difference...

[Alerojester]

Ok so we started tearing into the engine and its just the crank bearings, good news is that I can get the bearings and crank for about $150.00 then i am going to replace sensors as I go first one is the oil sensor that will be done when i replace the bearings and crank.


Little side note wondering how to get an aleromod.com Vinyl for the front window???

[Nate's Alero]

Little side note wondering how to get an aleromod.com Vinyl for the front window???

i had mine made custom, think cafepress makes them though, google it

[Raziel]

i'll scan it up for you guys sometime soon

- edit -
heres the picts sorry they are a little big. you may want to download them and then use a zoom tool on windows or something. but they are huge. and i lied. it was only $6800






WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE:eek: lol jokes....Of coarse it's expensive that's Saskatoon Motor Products for ya and of coarse the dollar difference too between countries. I would just go to a wrecker and find an engine for it, it would be cheaper in the long run instead of puttin in that 3.8 but that's my opinion.

Raz

[Alerojester]

Ok new question on the whole thing i can get a 2.3 block but no head is there anyway that if i put my head off my 2.4 on it would it work??????? or should i just get over the price for the crank kit and buy it????????

[IRONDOG442]

3.5 dual cam Intrigue motor would be cool if it fit


this man speaks troof!

[spyhunter]

Ok new question on the whole thing i can get a 2.3 block but no head is there anyway that if i put my head off my 2.4 on it would it work??????? or should i just get over the price for the crank kit and buy it????????

stay 2.4L w/ 2.4L and 2.3L w/ 2.3L.....

[spyhunter]

Ok so we started tearing into the engine and its just the crank bearings, good news is that I can get the bearings and crank for about $150.00 then i am going to replace sensors as I go first one is the oil sensor that will be done when i replace the bearings and crank.


Little side note wondering how to get an aleromod.com Vinyl for the front window???


That oil light sensor in the head is a dummy light. If that light goes on and says Low Oil, you're already too late. A better rule of thumb EVERYBODY should do regardless of make/year/etc... is at every gas up, check the fluids, belts, battery connections, clean the windows, and check tire pressures.

[A57]

Ok new question on the whole thing i can get a 2.3 block but no head is there anyway that if i put my head off my 2.4 on it would it work??????? or should i just get over the price for the crank kit and buy it????????

Just some info for you,
the 2.4 is the replacement to the 2.3L the 2.3 fail in the head crack alot and head gasket would fail alot to....
So the GM engine builders re-did the 2.3 and came up with 2.4L
I agree to stick with 2.3 to 2.3 ect...
Now if you can find a w41 block now that was a racing beast ..

I remember this site had all that was mantapart....
http://www.mantapart.com/


good luck on your build.:cool:

[colonel6632]

WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE:eek: lol jokes....Of coarse it's expensive that's Saskatoon Motor Products for ya and of coarse the dollar difference too between countries. I would just go to a wrecker and find an engine for it, it would be cheaper in the long run instead of puttin in that 3.8 but that's my opinion.

Raz

thats ok, i've moved

[Nate's Alero]

thats ok, i've moved

i doubt anyone on here will come up and kill you.... i've met a lot of guys on here....no one insane.... (annoying, but not insane)

[spyhunter]

Just some info for you,
the 2.4 is the replacement to the 2.3L the 2.3 fail in the head crack alot and head gasket would fail alot to....
So the GM engine builders re-did the 2.3 and came up with 2.4L
I agree to stick with 2.3 to 2.3 ect...
Now if you can find a w41 block now that was a racing beast ..

I remember this site had all that was mantapart....
http://www.mantapart.com/


good luck on your build.:cool:

mantapart has a lot of stuff, but they're highly UNreputable in service.

The new batch of 2.3L headgaskets that are now on the market, get rid of the issue of headgasket failures.

If someone wanted to build a sweet motor they don't need a 2.3L block, even if it was a w41 block. W41 block is the same as any other 2.3L block of its year. The head isn't any different than a 2.3LHO. The goodies that a person would want from a w41 is the rare red IDI valve cover and the cams. The intake manifold is the same as a 2.3HO, blah blah blah.

[Alerojester]

ok so since i am a newbie at doing a bottom end how long should it take to do the crank and bearings???? cause once i get the parts i really want to get it running again before spring well actually it will be my winter project have some ideas on what i want to do like get power windows in it along with the factory fog lights, and possibly build a cold air intake for it so i know i am getting cold air not just engine heat!!!! Feel free to give me ideas on how i can go about all of that it would be greatly appreciated...

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

3.5 dual cam Intrigue motor would be cool if it fit
if they can put a corvette engine in a solstice, then a 3.5 can fit in the alero....just gotta get the proper mounts, tran, etc. LOTS of work

[Alerojester]

Ok so we scrapped the bottom end idea found a motor to replace the bad one with and then i guess i will have a motor to build up! So my question is how long should it take to switch the two? good one for bad one cause i might just end up doing it all by myself if i can't find someone who wants to help me do it.. just a question for all of you that have done it before me.... and i am open to suggestions on what to do with the motor i pull out..

[Caboose73]

It takes for ever if your by yourself but you should be able to do it in a weekend.Just pm if you have any questions cause sense my built motor blew up ive had to do 2 engine swaps in the past month so i can help you with anything you need to know.

Edit: I finally droped the blown motor off to Markus so i plan on doing another swap at the end of February and i promise ill have lots of pics and a nice write up of how to pull and put in an LD9.

[Alerojester]

thank you Caboose if i do have any questions i will be sure to ask. i think i found a friend with a shop to do it at and he has air tools!!!! but like i said i will make sure to pm you if i have anymore questions

[A57]

Ok so we scrapped the bottom end idea found a motor to replace the bad one with and then i guess i will have a motor to build up! So my question is how long should it take to switch the two? good one for bad one cause i might just end up doing it all by myself if i can't find someone who wants to help me do it.. just a question for all of you that have done it before me.... and i am open to suggestions on what to do with the motor i pull out..

Well alerojester,
If you have air tools now it should take you about a day to remove and day or so to install...
I would have help yea,but you little too far away...:eek:

[Alerojester]

Well alerojester,
If you have air tools now it should take you about a day to remove and day or so to install...
I would have help yea,but you little too far away...:eek:

thank you A57 your right that is a ways away i found help :yahoo: so hopefully less time

[Weazel]

Sometimes I wish my 3.4 was a 2.4 5 speed :(

[Alerojester]

yeah a 5 speed would be great in mine too but i really don't want to modify a car that i still owe $4k on till it mine not that banks

[Alerojester]

Ok so i am going back to the rebuild idea this should be fun.... hoping i can get it all done cheap and that there isn't alot of metal shavings in the oil pan:( if so then i guess i will have to tear it the rest of the way down BOTTOM END HERE I COME

[Alerojester]

just pulled out all my stock air intake tubing prepping for the engine work so i can get a cai on once the motor is in.... sorry i am kinda just tryin to find small things to do till the engine gets here.......

[Weazel]

yeah a 5 speed would be great in mine too but i really don't want to modify a car that i still owe $4k on till it mine not that banks

...But you want to put a 3.8 in it

[Caboose73]

...But you want to put a 3.8 in it

thats easy it just drops right in :lol:

[Alerojester]

i have actually gotten away from that idea i like the LD9 for the gas mileage i got in it so i am just going to keep with it.....there are just too many possibilities i can do with it so i am going to tinker with the one that's in it

[Alerojester]

ok so still trying to figure out which would be easier? taking the engine out top side or bottom (beings i won't have a hoist to use just a floor jack and jack stands). all my help has bailed on me and i have been told that the LD9 has oiling issues? and rod bearing problems?? i started thinking we had one with over 150k miles on it and it ran perfect now i have this one and its locked up on the bottom end.....

[Alerojester]

Bump

[PappaSmurf]

Taking the engine out would be easiest through the top side. Once you have everything disassembled (AND UNBOLTED) just take the motor mount by the radiaotor overflow tank off the car and pull the motor toward the passengers side of the car, disengaging it from the tranny. Then pop that monkey out and spank it like it was only your business...LOL
You HAVE TO HAVE a cherry picker!

[Alerojester]

so an update on this whole thing looking on craigslist today found a place in a town about 20 mins. from me that has like ummmmm 10 alero's and a bunch of parts. found two motors one has 103k for $350 ($400) if they pull it and another one with 130k for $300 ($350) for the same reason as above need to know what my fellow modders think before i commit to one or the other. they both run extremely well and there isn't a tick, knock or rattle in either one.. so i am happy just don't know which one to go for..... HELP PLEASE

[A57]

so an update on this whole thing looking on craigslist today found a place in a town about 20 mins. from me that has like ummmmm 10 alero's and a bunch of parts. found two motors one has 103k for $350 ($400) if they pull it and another one with 130k for $300 ($350) for the same reason as above need to know what my fellow modders think before i commit to one or the other. they both run extremely well and there isn't a tick, knock or rattle in either one.. so i am happy just don't know which one to go for..... HELP PLEASE

IMHO, get the 103k.....:scpimp:

[widbyj]

All else being equal the lower miles wins...

[Doc]

I just did this, I bought an alero with a known bad motor because I had a good motor in the one my daughter wrecked, if you have a good clean engine prepped and ready to go in it can be done in a day, I opened the hood at 0630, and was test driving it at 1800 that's alone, but probably not something to expect, I've been turning wrenches for 3 1/2 decades on everything from bikes to jet fighters... The only way to consider going is up, the down would entail the whole subframe dropping, trans & all, and you'd still need a cherry picker to get the engine off that and the new one on it, so just rent one and go up, best advice I can give is that the lower trans to engine Stud comes out of the trans(not just the nut off) with a 7 or 8 mm(sorry don't remember which) wrench

[Alerojester]

yeah now just to find about 3 people to help, and then it will be done........

[Alerojester]

ok so i found a 99 wrecked alero with the 3.4 for $600 good motor and trans. they only have 70,000 miles on them should i go for the V6 or stick to my 2.4?

[A57]

ok so i found a 99 wrecked alero with the 3.4 for $600 good motor and trans. they only have 70,000 miles on them should i go for the V6 or stick to my 2.4?

Well what can do is sell or trade is for a 2.4l if you want to keep it they way it was...
There is nothing wrong with 3400 other than the LIMG....

:scpimp:

[colonel6632]

i think the swap would be hard. you need the whole wire harness and everything i believe

[Alerojester]

i would have the whole car, so everything would be there that i would need.... its not a deffinate thing just an idea cause i miss my ho and really wanna see it running again :(

[Alerojester]

so just got a wrecked alero from a kid today that wrapped the passengers side on a telephone pole today for $150.00 and im gonna swap the 3.4 into my car......... what all do i need to get it to RUN CORRECTLY

[Ttop191]

motor, trans, mounts, harness, pcm, cant imagine too much else is different...

[AZFire316]

Post pics along the way :D

[A57]

so just got a wrecked alero from a kid today that wrapped the passengers side on a telephone pole today for $150.00 and im gonna swap the 3.4 into my car......... what all do i need to get it to RUN CORRECTLY

If the front end is in one peice, then drop the front cradel, with struts,motor,trans...
alot faster imho..

If you transmission are different then pull the motor...

Good luck.:scpimp:

[Alerojester]

i was gonna do the whole craddle and everything BUT im gonna have to do some fixing cause the right front tire is slightly bowed out due to hitting the pole, im thinking it could just be a tierod or hopefully just the rack.... but this is gonna be a fun swap cause i really miss my car......




what all of the wiring harness am i going to need to make this work?????? need to know cause its gonna go under the knife here in a bout a week or less so trying to get it all the info before i dig too far into it.................

[zzyzzx]

an engine replacement costed 7k ??

At a dealership I'd believe that.

[Cliff8928]

You don't actually have to swap the cradle. The mounts just bolt to it. The engine harness should be modular. You just remove the harness from the PCM and inline connector to the dash harness, the grommet through the firewall, and you may even be able to pull the engine without removing the harness from it. Even if it didn't work that easy, most of the wiring is right on the top.

[Alerojester]

hmmm so most of the 2.4 wiring is the same? cause its gonna be me and my business partner doing the swap in the shop so we're trying to get as much info as phyically possible so we don't run into too much of a problem while doing the swap.............

[Alerojester]

bump

[Alerojester]

bump

[Caboose73]

You need everything:Engine,Mounts,Tranny,both axles,the whole wiring harness back to the computers,both computers,fuel lines, and im sure theres a few little things in forgetting.It would of been alot easier to just drop another ld9 in or even an older 2.3 Ho which has 190hp.

[AZFire316]

Just realize this isnt a simple engine swap, its going to take alot of time as well as patience.

[Alerojester]

well i have the cradle and everything just sitting here waiting to go into it computers, axles, everything im gonna have to change the rack though cause its pretty screwed from the kid hitting the pole but other then that everything is straight and on a side note the motor has roughly 130k miles on it and doesn't knock or anything so I see it as im doing one better for myself and doing all of this or i could pay a buddy to do it for me since he's done all of our engine swaps in our work trucks and it was done in a matter of two days..... im still prolly gonna have questions so i'll continue to ask in this thread so im not making another one thanks for the patience with me ik im kinda a newb and just ask alot of questions but how else am i gonna find out with i need to know.............

[Ttop191]

might as well do a LIMG while you are at it ;)

[Alerojester]

planned on it Tom

[Alerojester]

ok so i found a motor for $400 one problem doesn't get oil to the head... need help trying to diagnose this what could it be NEED to figure this out so i can get my ho back up and running its greatly appreciated with any help i can get

[Shiwnath]

It could be caused by low oil pressure. A worn oil pump can cause the oil pressure to drop.

[Alerojester]

20k on motor, technically still in the crate

[Philbar71]

Clogged oil passage?

[Alerojester]

have no clue the guy that has it used to work for the chevy dealer here and he's stumped on it

[a.graham52]

how do you know theres no oil to the head? thats the first question. whats the PROOF?

[Alerojester]

It was in a car had no oil pressure to the head the guy that hasthat it is a trans guy that worked for chevrolet and the mechanics are stumped on it

[a.graham52]

do you know if the sensor was checked? how did he KNOW. seriously. whats the proof?

[Alerojester]

Pressure check is proof, and all sensors were replaced

[a.graham52]

well unfortunitly the only thing you can do at this point is tear the bottom end apart and measure/inspect bearings. if one of those is letting too much oil by then you wont get pressure to the head. or you could also throw an oil pump at it however i dont think that type of oil pump can really go bad lol. if the motor was in running condition that would be one thing. and be concerned the motors cooked cuz who knows how long it was run without pressure... and this is all based off of the fact that we belive said machanic. and guess work.

[MMGT1]

PART #12637040. Thats the cover, includes pump. I bet the gear is gone on it but it is not available from GM, you have to buy the cover to get the pump! Thats up here though, maybe different State side????

EDIT** Just did a quick check and we have NEVER sold one of those pumps! Looks like bottom end is comming off bud.

[A57]

20k on motor, technically still in the crate

UM, did you check the oil filter to see if there was oil in it? also first thing is oil pump.

[a.graham52]

first thing is he has an angine thats out of the car with major machanical problems. Needs to find a way to set the engine up so he can crank it over.but ur on the right track. u could remove the filter and crank it over. It should be very messy but it would tell u if u have pressure up to that point. Then get ur hands on a machan ical pressure guage that will screw onto the ffilter boss and see how much pressure u have. UNFORTUNITLY u need to have the engine running for proper pressure test

[Alerojester]

true point im gonna get my car to my shop and the engine here too and before i put it in im gonna put it on a stand and go through it and see if there's anything that isn't correct and do it process of elimination style with the advice i have been given by my fellow modders sounds like a plan to me and if i get stumped i will ask here and the mechanic across the way from my shop

[Alerojester]

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[jwc111]

my motor blew about 2 months ago, the connecting rod got thrown through the side of the block. my mechanic is saying that i ran it out of oil but there is still alot left. plus the fact that i went to the shop about a week later and it started and ran. i just dont get how it happend, i mean i did drive the car a little rough but i always kept the oil clean and maintained the car.

[Alerojester]

ok so update on my car, bought a motor with 130,771 miles out of a 1997 Grand Am for $200 the guy we got the car from said that it has a leaking head gasket but after pulling the engine and trans from the car i looked it over and there are no signs of a leak of any kind on it just poor cleaning, so what im going to do is swap my head for the one on the engine now but its gonna get checked over by the local engine shop (D&R Engines) who have built some really nice stuff then it will be reassembly and back in to my Alero:yahoo: then it will be the task of registering it again after 3 years of sitting, ik i'm going to have to drop my tank and all that cause there was a half a tank of fuel in it when it seized up but i can get another tank for about $200 to my shop so the time consuming process begins as as i can get her here to the shop and dismantled times gonna be easy but the money isn't gonna come as easy.... and if anyone has tips or tricks feel free to let me know hope this all goes smoothly and there aren't too many road blocks

[Alerojester]

Bump

[zzyzzx]

Added a quart of oil and then it blew..:eek: What kind of oil was that?

Quaker State? No name oil?

I would assume that it was a coincidence.

[Alerojester]

I only use mobile 1, going to be running full synthetic in the new engine

[Alerojester]

So since the engine i have is out of a 97 what all do i have to do to get it to work CORRECTLY in my 01?????????? because i'm running on next to nothing for a budget unfortunately i am trying to get it done without spending a lot of money cause i want to have it done and running before ASS '13 so i can make that trip and meet all of my fellow modders

[Alerojester]

so i have returned to with no engine AGAIN and now i have a honest question does my LD9 have an egr or no??? cause there's a parts car at the local dealership that we could pick up for cheap all i need is the engine the rest is all scrap weight PLEASE someone respond... and if it does have an egr where would i look to see

[guiguilandry]

NO egr on your car...
I didn't had it on my 00 and my 01
and 99 and older doesn't have the same knock sensor...

[Alerojester]

thanks, ik i sound like a dumb ass asking all these questions but im just so frustrated with having an engine then not then finding one and then it gets sold, im hoping that we can get the parts car and get my car to my shop and get it running i really miss my ho

[sleepyalero]

your here to learn, its okay. people are here to answer questions.

good luck, hope you have it running soon.

[billytheman1188]

there's no scrap yards around you with them? I had like 10 different 3500's to choose from when i was getting mine. lol


BTW....no EGR on those!? wtf? lol. Why do the 3400's have it and not the 2.4?

[sleepyalero]

my 3400 doesnt have EGR ;)

[Alerojester]

Ok so I JUST bought the engine for my baby $500 and its got like 100,000 miles on it now to wait a few more months then its going in after I do timing set and water pump then its gonna be running again and I'll get my 4th rim fixed and then it'll be 18's and running

[sleepyalero]

Does 100k mile motor really run that high?

[zzyzzx]

Does 100k mile motor really run that high?

:agree:

Seems like more money than it should be.

[happyisthealero]

probably depends on the part of country you live in, over here in michigan I would pay that for one, but then again I have never had to do that, and I really dont know lol...

[Alerojester]

i live in iowa and i bought it from the mechanic across the road he's awfully proud to take money, but he's gonna do the timing chain and water pump for me so all i need to do is drop it in i guess that's part of the $500 i paid for it

[Alerojester]

Well I'm back again with yet again no engine, the guy I bought it from sold it for $200 and well I'm stuck finding another engine!! But I can at least say I sort of have my cai planned and routed and I have 2 of my 18's on it looks damn good for having just 2 rims on it lol

[sleepyalero]

What a shame...

[Alerojester]

I will have to post a picture of it afer i get the other 2 18's on and the engine in when i find another one i will take it out and get it washed its filthy from sitting and becoming a jungle gym to my 14y/o nephew and his stupid buddies i have to repaint my car pop some dents out and fill a dent about 1/8 inch from my back glass, on a plus side i have ran my power wire which is 2ga, cleared my corners, started putting led bulbs in everywhere i can when i get the money to buy them, now just to get a new engine found and bought then new rubber on the 18's and the body work and it will be a hell of alot better

[WIALERO]

theres wrench and go in des moines i use to go to when i lived there they always had aleros and grand ams with the 2.4 i dont know where you are located at in iowa but i know just of wrench and go they charge a dollar to get in well use to when i lived there have not been there in a while its on the south side of downtown kinda im planning on coming back soon to visit and if your on my way to des moines i could stop and say hi!

[WIALERO]

and if ya have the motor i could help put it in to while i am down there

[Alerojester]

I live in Cedar Rapids right off I380, on the sw side, im seriously kicking myself in the ass for selling my engine:( because the engine I had only had like 100k or so on it

[WIALERO]

You should have kept it damit!

[Alerojester]

yeah I know BUT at that point in time I was jobless had no money and well now im still in that position, and the ex an her family pretty much ran me broke im actually out about $8k due to them and I sold my truck which I should've never done that was my other baby:( I think I had to be really:drunk: to even do half the stuff I did when I was with her, hell I was even basically the only one who took care of her 3 young daughters!!!!

[WIALERO]

dam dude that sucks...

[Alerojester]

but her girls were more important then my car or truck so I deal with the loss of the truck and my engine, even though finding another 100k engine isn't gonna be easy i'll do what I have to do to find one and get my ho up and running hopefully by spring thaw cause once my 18's go on they aren't coming off:coolio:

[WIALERO]

for changine tires then they will...but just look on cl or just find a block and such and rebuild ot

[Alerojester]

well here's an update: the crank kit is a lot cheaper then I thought it was by a long shot... so I think im going to get the crank kit, new pan gasket, and anything else im going to need to get my car going again.... here's the question I have what all am I going to need to accomplish this task ik tools, the engine out of the car and on a stand, but im meaning anything that isn't common sense stuff.... and while im in there what should I look for as to why it stopped rotating? much appreciated anyone that gives things......

[Alerojester]

going to get the crank kit this morning since I ordered it yesterday, then to pull the engine and dig into it...... this should be interesting to see how bad it looks when I tear into it.... im hoping for nothing in the way of rods being trashed or bent, and nothing else to be wrong....

[Alerojester]

ok I really need some help here.. was just told by a buddy that works on v8's and bigger that im gonna have to tear down my whole engine and take it to a machine shop due to the engine seizing that the mains are gonna be trashed but idk if they will be or not... I guess as im tearing it down im going to post pictures along the way and I want as much insight as possible

[Alerojester]

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