turbo boost?

[2000aleroff]

im very interested in putting a turbo in my alero, but how much boost can i run based on a stock engine? and what would i have to modify to run more boost?

[worknprog.99]

im very interested in putting a turbo in my alero, but how much boost can i run based on a stock engine? and what would i have to modify to run more boost?

well first you need to make turbo headers or pre order them through the dying group buy....also will need a custom fabbed downpipe.... alot of money and knowledge

then you will ned all custom setup of intercooler piping and mounting .

then tapping into oil and vacuum lines for the turbo and wastegate / boost controller....

some members on here say 6-9 psi on stock 3400 i think i read somewhere someone pushing 12 but i believe intrnals had been done...

also your tranny may not last too long after.

and on top of all that you need a custom tuned pcm...

by your post i say you are not that educated on the turbo process or what is involved in one... but this is a great place to learn about that

[worknprog.99]

assuming you get the setup down.. more boost would probably require better gaskets, forged internals etc..

[alerored04]

Before you worry about more boost worry about the trans. The engine will take up to 12-15 that I have seen on a spot on tune, but the trans will start to go at 5psi. Engine wise higher boost will require much larger injectors, forged low comp pistons. MLS or copper head gaskets. ported everything, otherwise why waste time on a turbo unless you are going to upgrade the other stuff.

[2000aleroff]

okay so if i were to start out by buying a 3500 uim and a race/boost 3400 lim, plus the turbo headers, would that be a step in the right direction? if so what should i get after that? i dont plan on buying the turbo until the engine is modified to handle it, so i wont worry about a new tranny until then either. if this is a bad idea please tell me, i want to know the best route to making this happen.

[2000aleroff]

just tell me exactly what i would need to buy, pre-turbo. just the necessary things before the actual turbo could be installed. thats where i want to start.

[worknprog.99]

i told you .. you can install one on stock. its just a matter of how long it will last.. so bare minimum would be as follows

turbo
wastegate if not on turbo
manifolds
downpipe
charge piping
air filter
IC
oil feed and return lines
and tapped vacuum lines.
and a rough pcm tune,

will work but granit probably not for long at higher boost....

take all the above, and add,

forged internals
upgraded gaskets
premium fuel
bigger injectors
etc...
then it would start working stronger

[2000aleroff]

okay got it, so what turbo should i start off with? should i go small or get something larger and bring out more power in it as i continue to modify.

[JLw7123]

start will a small turbo and if you want up grade later to bigger turbobut i would built the engine before u put a big turbo in.

[[ion] C2]

So you're in Michigan? You and I need to talk..

[worknprog.99]

okay got it, so what turbo should i start off with? should i go small or get something larger and bring out more power in it as i continue to modify.

the question is how much money are you thinking you want to spend for a setup? what you say is fair?

[2000aleroff]

ok whats a good small turbo to start with and where should i buy one from? and yes i live in michigan.

[2000aleroff]

i see it as a project that can span from a few months to 2 years..so money can range from a thousand now to 5 thousand over the next year

[JLw7123]

buy ionC2 turbo

[2000aleroff]

where can i get one?

[worknprog.99]

ll he meant buy the turbo from ion c2 lol....

[[ion] C2]

Lol I don't think there's a manufacturer named after me. Here's my turbo for sale: http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28984

[JLw7123]

http://www.hksusa.com/categories/?id=1093
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/products/turbochargers.html
http://www.greddy.com/products/?Category=turbo
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/gtk
here are some sites and you can try E bay to.

[JLw7123]

ll he meant buy the turbo from ion c2 lol....

ya that is what I meant sorry did not explain well enough

[2000aleroff]

o haha, my bad. 75 shipped huh? that sounds legit.

[worknprog.99]

for starters i would buy ion's

[[ion] C2]

I'm pretty legit. http://ion-productions.com/awesome.gif

Makes a great looking paperweight too until you're ready to put this bad boy on.

[worknprog.99]

he has a long way to go before he puts it on...

who are you having do the work?

[2000aleroff]

haha yeah a great paper weight =) so if i get the turbo, ill need a wastegate, manifolds, all the piping...and whats an IC?

then after that i need to do all the oil feed lines and vacuum lines.

i was planning on doing the project on my own. i wouldnt try it without knowing exactly what i was doing and having expert advice though. for the piping would it would have to be done custom at a welding shop or no?

[2000aleroff]

haha intercooler. sorry didnt even think about it =/

[JLw7123]

haha yeah a great paper weight =) so if i get the turbo, ill need a wastegate, manifolds, all the piping...and whats an IC?

then after that i need to do all the oil feed lines and vacuum lines.

i was planning on doing the project on my own. i wouldnt try it without knowing exactly what i was doing and having expert advice though. for the piping would it would have to be done custom at a welding shop or no?

what about the BOV

[[ion] C2]

Don't need one with an anti-surge housing turbo. I can help you get the parts together :)

[worknprog.99]

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26911&highlight=turbo+progress

this should give you some info. its where i learned it all from

[2000aleroff]

ok sweet, thanks a lot. im doing homework right now but ill message you and we can try and get all the parts together. ill talk to you soon, thanks a lot guys. this is something to keep me busy over the winter haha =P

[worknprog.99]

busy it will keep you

[00WhiteAlero]

Haha sucks im not selling my turbo kit anymore for the 3400 :D

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt329/GAInstinkt/turbo016.jpg

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt329/GAInstinkt/turbo018.jpg

[kwhauck]

not much of a kit yet.....you don't have any of the hard stuff, i could get everything you have on ebay in the next 5 minutes.....

[2000aleroff]

haha whats the hard stuff?

[00WhiteAlero]

I have the oil pan tapped ofr the return line, i have the 42.5 injectors, im getting turbo headers im getting a custom downpipe, i got the intercooler and i got alot of the stuff to beef up the internals. Sorry for not posting all my pics ;) but i do have everything i need to turbo it right now with the exception of the turbo manifolds.

[worknprog.99]

I have the oil pan tapped ofr the return line, i have the 42.5 injectors, im getting turbo headers im getting a custom downpipe, i got the intercooler and i got alot of the stuff to beef up the internals. Sorry for not posting all my pics ;) but i do have everything i need to turbo it right now with the exception of the turbo manifolds.

where you getting the manifolds?

[00WhiteAlero]

its called a group buy that MP racing is having you should check it out

http://grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80373

[kwhauck]

the headers and downpipe would be the hard part - everything else is child's play.....

[Cashdollar2009]

C2;501065']Don't need one with an anti-surge housing turbo. I can help you get the parts together :)

Sounds like an offer you may want to jump on buddy... :Hi: :whistle:

[2000aleroff]

ok back today, i know im going to put myself on the list for the turbo headers soon. as for the down pipe what should i do?