led guage and glowing needle troubleshooting

[AleroDrime]

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im having some issues and im not quite sure about them and i dont get why its doing it,

1.the led at the top of the tach doesn't seem to turn on and get bright for a few minutes

2. the needle for the speed isnt as bright as the rest, it starts on dim, and does get brighter but you can see a difference.

3.the temp gauge needle doesn't have the red led or what ever attached to it, when the motor gets warm it moves over it and looks OK but you can see a large glow from like the head of the led

4. the gas gauge of the cluster is way off, when full it was almost straight up, and yesterday i filled the car, it took 9 gallons and the needle was only just under half a tank

[RisenequinoX]

you have soo many issues i wish i could help... lol

[AleroDrime]

issues with me or the cluster lol

[AleroDrime]

ill see if i cant get a better pic tonight after work

[RisenequinoX]

issues with me or the cluster lol

you and your car... haha

[cherrington17]

4)the gas gauge is easy. fill the tank, pop the needle off, and put it at full... repeatedly adjust until its accurate.

3) Its a design flaw that he made when he did the mod. We learned a valuable lesson.

2) starts dim? you mean when the car is ON then brighter when the car is started, or is your frame of reference always done while the car is running? Leds aren't like halogen bulbs. The brightness varies depending on voltage. All leds will be brigher when the car is running.

1) Could be a loose contact. Either tear it apart and look/fix it, or just learn to live with it.

[Atmosphere]

Can anyone give me a quick run through on how this is done? I have four 3mm white LEDs sitting here but I haven't been able to find a good guide that explains how to install them into the needles.

[AleroDrime]

2.no when the car is running its definently not as bright as the others for about 5 minutes then it gets brighter but not quite as bright

3. did you find a way of fixing it

1. i will check

4, i just noticed my old gauges have a bar at the top too, the new one doesnt, could that have thrown it off when i filled my tank?

[AleroDrime]

Can anyone give me a quick run through on how this is done? I have four 3mm white LEDs sitting here but I haven't been able to find a good guide that explains how to install them into the needles.
nvm id didnt read your post closely

[cherrington17]

2) bad connetion on the power going TO the led, or at the lead on the led itself.
3) yes, you won't like the answer
4) no, you just need to pull the needle off and readjust it. I attempted this mod, and had to fix my gas gauge like 3 times.


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atmos, search for yaleroynot and his thread on "what to do with 100 leds" he had a partial how to within the thread.

[AleroDrime]

these are his old gauges, and ive pmed him and had no response
but please gone into depth on #3, why is it gonna be that bad wouldnt it be like the gas guage one, i figured the led to teh needle may have become unglued but i have had time to take mess apart and verify this

[RisenequinoX]

this is gonna be heartbreak... haha

[AleroDrime]

ok looking at the 100 led thread i see this isnt gonna be easy but i dont get why its just doing it on that one

[cherrington17]

i don't think he glued anything. most likely, he drilled the holes at the right size, and just seated them properly (and tightly) into place.

the problem he mounted all the gauges on a 6-9-12 oclock arrangement, instead of the speedo/tach being 9-12-3. So the color won't be an even spread on the two middle needles.

[YALEROYNOT]

when the needle is over the led it will be a little brighter, it never bothered me. sorry I have been working like crazy (75 hours in 4 days, i worked from 6 am yesterday till 6am this morning ) sorry gota pay the bills

[AleroDrime]

the large glare from the temp guage is what bothers me most, the rest i could live with

sry its so shaky looking

[cherrington17]

just gonna have to live with that. its a downside to the way the led was mounted.

[Redog]

Mine aren't perfect either, When my gas gauge is full, that needle is a bit dimmer.

When I turn the dimmer down the temp and gas dim all the way to very little lit, the tach and speed go out.

I didn't install them myself. I was a noob back then, I had mine done in 2001

[AleroDrime]

ok im just gonna focus on getting the speedometer right and the gas guage, i noticed with the aid of the gps that at 51 im actually doing 55,

this is wierd to me because i though 225/50/16 was actually minutely smaller then the old tire size

on the way to charlotte it showed me doing 75 when my gauges said 71, so it was closer but still off

[RisenequinoX]

ok im just gonna focus on getting the speedometer right and the gas guage, i noticed with the aid of the gps that at 51 im actually doing 55,

this is wierd to me because i though 225/50/16 was actually minutely smaller then the old tire size

on the way to charlotte it showed me doing 75 when my gauges said 71, so it was closer but still off

thats still a 4 mph difference????

[YALEROYNOT]

unplug the cluster take the needles off, and plug it back in the needles will be reset then put the needles back on. you might have to do it a few times to get them right, they were good in my car I dont kno why they are off

[Nate's Alero]

i like the stock cluster....., annnnnnnd i dont....

[AleroDrime]

thats still a 4 mph difference????

the older one was closer to being accurate, the difference gets greater as your speed increases

[Nate's Alero]

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ITS NOT HARD :mad2:

[cherrington17]

did you just use mspaint to try to prove your point w/ a graph?

:No:

[01OldsAleroGt]

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[heineck]

hey im in there hahaha i gave AR the facepalm

[Redog]

the difference gets greater as your speed increases

That's because speedos are off by a percentage, not MPH

[PappaSmurf]

So is manwhore, That pretty bad when you got a facepalm by him...LOL
-Smurf-

[Redog]

AR i have the perfect mod idea for you. It's called the garage mod.

It's easy even you can do it.

Park your car in a garage, and leave it there. Done

[PappaSmurf]

^^^NO he couldnt! He would want a "How-to" and a write-up on which garage.
-Smurf-

[heineck]

hahahha even with the write up he still "woulldnt get it"

[YALEROYNOT]

So is manwhore, That pretty bad when you got a facepalm by him...LOL
-Smurf-

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[AleroDrime]

um anyways we can close this one now...

i dab of black back fixed the led glare on the temp

i set the speedometer to be on point at 55 mph and ill get the gas guage done when i can cash my paycheck


i even got the miles fixed and all the leds are working right away now, i swapped the circuit boards
thanks

[RisenequinoX]

lol congrats

[AleroDrime]

This Thread - Flaming = One Page

[RisenequinoX]

you want more???

also, when you swapped the CB how did you go about doing this... i need a write-up =]

[AleroDrime]

ill take some pictures putting the one here in my room back together if you want and post them in reverse order lol, its cake but ill do it

[RisenequinoX]

also if you could pm me or whatever and "learn" me the way to mke the guage a diff color than the needle i'd smile thanks.

from, Noob.

[YALEROYNOT]

also if you could pm me or whatever and "learn" me the way to mke the guage a diff color than the needle i'd smile thanks.

from, Noob.

my glow needle how to (http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20410&highlight=led+gauge+needles)

[Redog]

This Thread + bringing shit on myself = Flaming = One Page

Fixed

[cherrington17]

ken, just close it... stop perpetuating the cycle. he got his (this) problem solved.

[YALEROYNOT]

ken, just close it... stop perpetuating the cycle. he got his (this) problem solved.

please close this I am sick of looking at it, sick of sellin (giving away) parts, some one was supose to come yesterday for stuff (no show ), the car is on its way to the scrap soon (not soon enuff), want stuff come and get it :rolleyes2: