Apparently in Missouri clearing your corners isn't legal?

[Psyfox]

Yeah...went to the license bureau today and asked about it and got shot down, apparently that orange cover is required. Also, I went to the county next to mine's police station and asked if they had an ordinance against underglow, and they told me that I couldn't even have them on the car. But good news is I think the lady was just being a bitch and it's up to the cops' discretion, because my neighbor who used to work for my county told me he called it in once and they told him not to ticket it.

Good news is I don't think the county I go to college in really cares about underglow at all, so I'll be big pimpin' over there. So I'm definitely following through with the underglow.

Any opinions on the CYC? - Should I clear them anyway and get amber bulbs?

[adam337]

Clear corners are illegal in every state. it just the fact that its such a subtle mod that NO ONE is going to notice it. as for the underglow red blue and green i think are illegal in every state. because the red and blue seem like an ambulance or police and the red and green seem like stop lights. and im pretty sure its illegal in most states to drive with any color underglow. However. you can have any color underglow and have it on as long as you are parked and not moving. a cop here tried to give one of my friends a ticket for red underglow when he was parked and she had to call in and then she ended up being wrong and seemed like a dumbass. when i had my alero i had cleared corners and silver star turn signals and i used 194 amber bulbs in the corner.. theres clear in there now. with the tiny yellow bulb you really couldnt notice it when it was off and when it was on it was bright yellow so no cop knew the corners didnt have the reflectors..

[NickAlero2000]

Clearing your corners is illegal, EVERYWHERE!!!
No ones gonna pull you over for it though, since on Alero's, its such a small piece.
Just make sure the lights behind it work and your set.

[Psyfox]

Well I feel like a dumbass now. Thanks for the reassurance, I'll go for it.

And really? Green is looked down upon? I mean I can see why, but still, I would think that red/blue/white would be there only main concerns due to the emergency vehicles. Oh well...screw it...I'm doing both. Aleromod.com FTW! I love this community, lol.

[PappaSmurf]

Psy,
Listen to the two above, they know what they are talking about. Now advice from me being that I am the criminal justice student and can advise you of your rights along with multiple laws regarding motor vehicles... As long as you have a bulb that burns amber in the corner, they CANNOT cite you for it as you have removed a plastic piece on YOUR car. As long as the bulb in its pace is the SAME color as the plastic piece you removed then you are okay. (for example) you want to remove the red plastic piece from your taillights, you HAVE TO use a red bulb.

The underglow IS ILLEGAL in all states no matter the color, its considered a distraction to other drivers on the road. If you get underglow, do like I did and get the remote kit. KEEP YOUR KEYS IN YOUR POCKET, and then show off. When the cop comes to you and wants to complain SLOWLY reach in your pocket and show him your keys. THe reason behind this is that if you keys are IN the car (no matter if they are in the seat) you are considered a potential drive-off and COULD BE charged with avaiding arrest. WHATEVER you do be polite to the officer and more than likely they will reciprocate the mannerism and leave without saying anything.

Ask anybody that was at ASS 09, I had my underglow going when the cop pulled up the night manwhore shined his brights at the cop. However I had my keys in my back pocket. The cop didnt say a word to me or anything about my lights.
-Smurf-

Oh yeah, BEFORE you clear your corners, go to autozone and look in the headlight/bulb section. Pick up the 194 amber leds. This is what I did and they are clear bulbs during the day and burn a nice amber at night. LOL

[wrestlingandrunning]

Clear corners are illegal in every state. it just the fact that its such a subtle mod that NO ONE is going to notice it. as for the underglow red blue and green i think are illegal in every state.

here in kansas its only red and flashing that's illegal

[CactusWill]

Must only be for the front corners then. Because many newer cars come with cleared taillights from the factory and are legal nationwide.

[Crazytaxi37]

The illegal part of clearing your corners is that you are removing the only reflectors on the front of your alero.

[Psyfox]

Smurf,

Good to know, and thanks for the info, clearing my corners is game on in this case.

I was planning on working the underglow off of a switch from the inside of my car, do you know if I can still apply a remote kit to that as well or is it one or the other (I'm thinking as long as I keep the circuit closed the remote should work with it as well...almost treating the switch as a breaker)? Then again, if I get the remote there's no point to having the switch.

How much do remote kits usually run (I thought I saw one on Oznium for $40)? I have a LiteGlow underbody kit if that helps to specify what will work...then again I haven't opened the package for it, it might include one (says includes control module, but I don't think that means remote).

What say you?

[PappaSmurf]

I say send that crap back. LOL
I hate lite glow as they are cheaply made and will burn out in about a couple of months. I had three sets from them and they all went within an 8 month period. I bought my LED kit from iceled.com and paid the extra to get the remote kit that came with it. I think I paid 71 dollars and some odd change total with shipping included.

Also the control module is NOT the remote. The control module is what allows you to turn it on and off and change patterns if your allows this operation. I can do all of the above said with the little remote. The cool thing about mine is it came with two remotes. I leave one in the car and one at home, just in case. LOL
-Smurf-

[Psyfox]

Damn...sad to hear that because shipping is probably gonna take forever to get to me, but good to know that LiteGlow sucks...I had a feeling. I'll look into iceled and oznium and see what goes. I'll probably lean towards iceled since you suggest it.

How should I return the LiteGlow kit?...I got it from AAS and haven't touched the box? Just take it to the post office and they should be able to tell me?

[Redog]

I was under the impression that if you had an amber blub in a clear corner you're fine.

"Neon Control Device" are what they are called in PA and yes they are illegal. However I got pulled over for it in NJ and didn't get a ticket or anything.

I got pulled over for it in Philly, which surprised me. The cop stormed up to my car and banged, I mean really banged on the window and yelled at me about it. I was told that I was getting a break, for now, and if it was on my car as of tomorrow even parked in front of my house, I'd get a ticket mailed to me for $100. This was at 10:30 PM. I took it off as soon as I got home.

That night at 12:04 AM the same cop drove by my house, stopped, got out of his cruiser, and looked at my license plate (had one of those neon plate frames) got back in his car and drove away. It was defently him. I didn't see him but my parents did. I got pulled over about a mile from my house, but in a different district (7th distrct and I lived in the 2nd) and the cars are clearly marked for which district they are in. It was a 7th district cruiser.

BTW this was with my Cougar, not my Alero. This happened in 1996

[PappaSmurf]

Ken,
The clear corners are fine AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE SAME COLOR BULB to replace where the orange plastic piece went. It is the same crap as the lense repair tape, if they want to get technical. YOu can drive with trasparent tape over your lenses as long as you want and the SAME COLOR bulb is the same principal.

The neons or LEDs are considered a distraction to other drivers, that is why they get you into trouble.
You were there standing next to the cop that showed up at ASS, did he say anything about mine, adn mine were inthe scanning pattern? And oh, I also have a blue LED backlit license plate hidden behind my personalized front plate that glows when the underbodies are on. LOL
-Smurf-

[CactusWill]

I got pulled over for it in Philly, which surprised me. The cop stormed up to my car and banged, I mean really banged on the window and yelled at me about it. I was told that I was getting a break, for now, and if it was on my car as of tomorrow even parked in front of my house, I'd get a ticket mailed to me for $100. This was at 10:30 PM. I took it off as soon as I got home.

That night at 12:04 AM the same cop drove by my house, stopped, got out of his cruiser, and looked at my license plate (had one of those neon plate frames) got back in his car and drove away. It was defently him. I didn't see him but my parents did. I got pulled over about a mile from my house, but in a different district (7th distrct and I lived in the 2nd) and the cars are clearly marked for which district they are in. It was a 7th district cruiser.

BTW this was with my Cougar, not my Alero. This happened in 1996


And to think, of all the real criminals they avoided pursuing because you would have been an easier score.

I remember like 1998ish, I was in ion's hood on telegraph road, and my oldsmobile cutlass supreme got stolen. Called police, they came and took a report, and asked which way they went. I didn't know for sure of course, but I instinctively pointed down dartmouth road towards inktown, because it was a 99% probability. So about 3 minutes later I see what looked like the same cops in the mcdonalds drive thru about 100 yards away. I walked over and it WAS them, so I asked if they found my car yet, and if they could get me out of the 5 over ticket that their department wrote me a few days back. They were so speechless, they even stopped chewing their big macs while I was talking to them about not doing their jobs.

Never saw my stolen car again. But when I went to pay the 5 over ticket, it had already been dismissed :lol:

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

The neons or LEDs are considered a distraction to other drivers, that is why they get you into trouble.


anything like that is considered stunting it kinda seems dumb but they'll give you a ticket for stunting because of your music being too loud in the car before they give a ticket for noise... up here at least.

[wrestlingandrunning]

go to www.streetglow.com im not sure the exact link but you can look up laws on underglow
by state

[Redog]

Ken,
The clear corners are fine AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE SAME COLOR BULB to replace where the orange plastic piece went. It is the same crap as the lense repair tape, if they want to get technical. YOu can drive with trasparent tape over your lenses as long as you want and the SAME COLOR bulb is the same principal.

The neons or LEDs are considered a distraction to other drivers, that is why they get you into trouble.
You were there standing next to the cop that showed up at ASS, did he say anything about mine, adn mine were inthe scanning pattern? And oh, I also have a blue LED backlit license plate hidden behind my personalized front plate that glows when the underbodies are on. LOL
-Smurf-

Point one: That's exactly what I thought. Had clears for 7 years now.

Point two: Very true, this is why they are illegal ;)

[adam337]

Ken,
The clear corners are fine AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE SAME COLOR BULB to replace where the orange plastic piece went.
-Smurf-

they can also cite you when the car is off.. because you have no reflector in the front of your car (the bulbs dont really reflect..) you need to have a reflector in the front and back.. if the cops a dick and actually pays attention to cite you for that.

[Cliff8928]

As long as you have a bulb that burns amber in the corner, they CANNOT cite you for it as you have removed a plastic piece on YOUR car. As long as the bulb in its pace is the SAME color as the plastic piece you removed then you are okay. (for example) you want to remove the red plastic piece from your taillights, you HAVE TO use a red bulb

Actually, per the FMVSS regulations, there has to be an orange reflector viewable from the side of the car in the front. The color of the bulb is irrelevant.

Also, no red bulbs are legal last I checked.

[PappaSmurf]

they can also cite you when the car is off.. because you have no reflector in the front of your car (the bulbs dont really reflect..) you need to have a reflector in the front and back.. if the cops a dink and actually pays attention to cite you for that.

Actually this is false, They CANNOT cite you when the car is off because then the car would be considered to be in a non-operational condition. That would be like getting arrested for thinking about committing the crime before it actually took place.

You could fight this in court (AND WIN) if you were cited and wanted to take it that far. I have taken less things to court and won. If the car is standing still and in a non-operational state, they CANNOT cite you for anything. NOT even expired tags, they would have to wait until you got in the car, started it and then moved the car AT LEAST 3 inches from the postion it was parked.
Most people don't know things like this, but MOST FEDERAL laws concerning motor vehicles is approached with the 3" rule. Such as if an officer observes that you are not wearing a sealtbelt, he has to PHYSICALLY observe the car move at least 3" inches before trying to cite you. I learned this one by taking this same EXACT thing to court...I started my car (from a Walmart parking lot), put it in reverse, rolled back maybe an inch or 2 and then stopped to put my seat belt on. I didnt even get the rear end of my car out of the parking space and he blocked me in and cited me for not wearing a seat belt. When he gave me the copy of the citation, I asked that he put his badge number on it. This ENSURES that you have the right officer, as it is ILLEGAL for them to provide citizens with false information...even though it happens.
-Smurf-

[lonnie]

I've had mine cleared for little over 3yrs now and I've been stopped a few times in that time frame and haven't had an issue with the corners being cleared.

[CactusWill]

Actually this is false, They CANNOT cite you when the car is off because then the car would be considered to be in a non-operational condition. That would be like getting arrested for thinking about committing the crime before it actually took place.


You can't get a moving violation if you're not driving, but you can definately get an equipment violation citation when your car is parked if it is on a public road. Although its pretty rare, only times I've seen it happen is if someone is missing taillight lenses or if your license plate is not visible.

[lil.red.alero]

i kinda feel dumb asking but i just got an alero
how do you clear the cornerlights?

[Afugy]

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10&highlight=clear+corners


Don't know why its not a sticky in the how to. But their you are.

[StoopidAlero]

Im in St.Louis too bud, I never have problems with the cleared corners. I have the UFO underglow kit too, and Ive been stopped once for it. He said just make sure I turn them off. I get my ass busted for the tint and no license plate on the front more than anything. Oh, and I got pulled over for showing off at a stop light. If you have air ride, dont lay it out at a stoplight.

[clutch1]

Don't be a puss.. some states let you run underglow. Check the laws (in the book.. not some bitch at a desk). Oznium has a discussion board about it, look at it.

In Vegas (Nevada as a whole I'd assume) I know a guy who ran blue underglow consistently without a problem (until someone stole and burned his car lol)

[lil.red.alero]

thanks thats how i thought just checkin

[DansGen1Alero]

Someone had stated that it didnt make sense when some cars come factory, and I beleive that those factory cars are most likely imports which have different rules since the cars may be built elsewhere. All domestics shoudl haev some sort of reflector on the front and rear. Take a look at the next domestic an import you see, most domestics you will see that reflector and most imports will not see, of course unless they have been modified, and I am sure there may be an exception.

[doubleN0alero]

If the car is standing still and in a non-operational state, they CANNOT cite you for anything. NOT even expired tags, they would have to wait until you got in the car, started it and then moved the car AT LEAST 3 inches from the postion it was parked.
Most people don't know things like this, but MOST FEDERAL laws concerning motor vehicles is approached with the 3" rule.

Maybe true where you are, but here we can get cited for having a car on our own property that either has no tags or expired tags. You will receive a ticket in the mail for not registering your car and also for not having it inspected. These are cars that you may not even be driving. This state keeps tabs on who has what, where and when.

[DansGen1Alero]

ditto, my HOA states that the must be registered and tagged or cant even be sitting out in the road/parking spots. They can have them towed

[Cliff8928]

Someone had stated that it didnt make sense when some cars come factory, and I beleive that those factory cars are most likely imports which have different rules since the cars may be built elsewhere. All domestics shoudl haev some sort of reflector on the front and rear. Take a look at the next domestic an import you see, most domestics you will see that reflector and most imports will not see, of course unless they have been modified, and I am sure there may be an exception.

All cars have one amber reflector per side visible from the side and one red reflector per side visible from the rear. This is regardless of if it's an import or domestic. Those are just the FMVSS rules.

[natedawg9640]

Maybe true where you are, but here we can get cited for having a car on our own property that either has no tags or expired tags. You will receive a ticket in the mail for not registering your car and also for not having it inspected. These are cars that you may not even be driving. This state keeps tabs on who has what, where and when.


what about those places with rusted out non mobile early 60's cars. you're telling me that they have to pay registration on every vehicle whether it's used or not? i have a hard time swallowing that.

[DansGen1Alero]

All cars have one amber reflector per side visible from the side and one red reflector per side visible from the rear. This is regardless of if it's an import or domestic. Those are just the FMVSS rules.


Check some of the cars. I promise you will see that most imports do not have a colored reflector in the front at least. weather in headlight or just a non lit. But every domestic does.

example 1 WRX
http://www.bevanwistar.com/images/subaru-impreza-wrx.jpg


Now that may have changed in the past couple years, as I have been seeing some imports with the reflectors, but all domestics I have seen have them, and not so much imports. And i thought that was due to becasue of the country they were built in and the requirements. Just what I have seen.

[DansGen1Alero]

what about those places with rusted out non mobile early 60's cars. you're telling me that they have to pay registration on every vehicle whether it's used or not? i have a hard time swallowing that.


I think its different if they are non operational, junked or scrapped, I know I was reffering to residential areas.

[natedawg9640]

Check some of the cars. I promise you will see that most imports do not have a colored reflector in the front at least. weather in headlight or just a non lit. But every domestic does.

example 1 WRX
http://www.bevanwistar.com/images/subaru-impreza-wrx.jpg


Now that may have changed in the past couple years, as I have been seeing some imports with the reflectors, but all domestics I have seen have them, and not so much imports. And i thought that was due to becasue of the country they were built in and the requirements. Just what I have seen.

that picture you referenced is the JDM version... see the side markers in front of the doors...

here you can see the amber in the headlights on the new one
http://www.autofans.us/images/2007%20Los%20Angeles%20Motor%20Show/2008%20Subaru%20Impreza%20WRX%20STi%203.jpg

and here is an older bugeye
http://www.jspeed.org/members/woody-wrx-02.jpg

[DansGen1Alero]

well like i said there are some exceptions, but the 08 in the headlight, to me that looks like it could just be the color of the bulb reflecting off chrome assembly, and not so much an actual reflector

[natedawg9640]

lol... nope.. she's a reflector

http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/attachments/suspension-wheels/76575d1202311888-wheel-choices-my-white-08-wrx-new-wrx1.jpg

[DansGen1Alero]

well i will take your word for it, and it seems that newer cars there may be more imports with them. when I was real big into noticing stuff like that is when i saw a lot of imports without them.....99-04/05ish

[doubleN0alero]

what about those places with rusted out non mobile early 60's cars. you're telling me that they have to pay registration on every vehicle whether it's used or not? i have a hard time swallowing that.

Once a car is junked, it is technically supposed to go to scrap. This is not just residential areas though, this is a computer automated system that prints you a ticket if you don't register or inspect your car. I got a "fix-it ticket" this year from the state because I did not have my car inspected yet. I do not have to go to court, I just had to have the inspection station sign my paper and when my case does go to court, the officer will drop it as it was fixed. This state is funky and has some of the strangest rules I've heard of.
You don't really drive down the streets here and see many cars just sitting in people's front yards or in their driveways unused.

[natedawg9640]

well that's silly.

[doubleN0alero]

Its not silly...there is a huge problem with people driving uninsured and untitled vehicles and causing accidents. Most of these residents have no paperwork on them, but I am not setting a stereotype, I'm only telling you how it is. If you are not documented, its difficult to get insurance, license, etc...therefore they just drive without it all.

[Cliff8928]

well i will take your word for it, and it seems that newer cars there may be more imports with them. when I was real big into noticing stuff like that is when i saw a lot of imports without them.....99-04/05ish

They all have them regardless... You're just not noticing them. There is no way it would be approved by FMVSS or DOT if it wasn't there.

[DansGen1Alero]

Oh no not all, trust me, maybe more newer imports, but not the older ones. Trust me, when I was a kid I hung in the parking lots and noticed them all the time. Unless MD just has a but load of JDMs, lol

[Cliff8928]

Well, most of those aftermarket lights that they were selling didn't have them... Manufacturers and distributors (like APC) definitely got the hurt on that one.