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worknprog.99
05-31-2009, 11:56 PM
ok so i want to eliminate the front emblem and fill the dip it will leave behind.. my question is when i spray the bumper with paint will the paint code on the stock car really still match ? since the car is 10 years old wouldnt it be a different shade than the rest ( fading and what not)??

what should i do?

cherrington17
05-31-2009, 11:58 PM
it definitely will be a different shade. You'll have to have a professional blend it for you. (if you don't want it to look like someone got a paint enema and farted over your emblem)

worknprog.99
06-01-2009, 12:00 AM
lol thats what i thought... the whole bumper would be a different shade....
so a paint shop would be the only way to really go? to get it mixed (i have a guy that paints car)

[ion] C2
06-01-2009, 12:13 AM
yeah you just bring a sample (take off your gas door) and they have a sensor or something to get the proper mixture to match

worknprog.99
06-01-2009, 12:16 AM
C2;467156']yeah you just bring a sample (take off your gas door) and they have a sensor or something to get the proper mixture to match

ok thats good to know... how much would i be looking at for just enough to do a bumper?

cherrington17
06-01-2009, 12:20 AM
gotta wait for bdy.

worknprog.99
06-01-2009, 12:26 AM
gotta wait for bdy.

lol hope he jumps in soon, i want to get this done soon! haha

bdyman
06-01-2009, 10:04 AM
well to have the bumper shaved is no biggie, the bumper is a plastic called TPO, so that means its a offlien type plastic, which needs a adheshion promoter for any type of plastic repair material to stick

we dont fiberglass and or bondo plastic it does not stick and is the wrong way of repair plastic, when i did my front bumper i plastic welded a piece of donor plastic over the hole and kept working the plastic until all i need was a skim coat of repair material

working with plastic takes allot of experience and or knowledge to know how each material works, what sticks what doesnt, how to plastic weld is another method that needs allot of experience, when i first learned how i melted a hole right through the bumper

bdyman
06-01-2009, 10:11 AM
and from the sounds of things you have no experoence in body work/customizng either, so no offense but this is something that should be handled by a tech that does it for a living, like me ;)

now the whole paint issues if your paint is not that faded out and is in good shape we can get the color close, we can never get a color dead on matching, never! thats why when were matching a color we get it close so we blend the next panles but that gets more costly becasue then were are removing headlights dropping the rocker moldings down removing the fender liners, no tape lines right?? right!!

we have paper test panles that we use when he match and its the only way to get a color close ya dont match paint under florescent light you match in direct sun light or under sun light corective bulbs which all booths have

only on rare occasions do we ever blend up the hood and fenders, only on like tri-coats, and higher end cars and thats only if the color is so bad we have no choice but to blend to achieve color match, a good painter can blend black into white and you would never see the blend

me personlly no need to blend not at all, send me the bumper and your gas door and i`ll take care of it

worknprog.99
06-01-2009, 12:28 PM
and from the sounds of things you have no experoence in body work/customizng either, so no offense but this is something that should be handled by a tech that does it for a living, like me ;)

now the whole paint issues if your paint is not that faded out and is in good shape we can get the color close, we can never get a color dead on matching, never! thats why when were matching a color we get it close so we blend the next panles but that gets more costly becasue then were are removing headlights dropping the rocker moldings down removing the fender liners, no tape lines right?? right!!

we have paper test panles that we use when he match and its the only way to get a color close ya dont match paint under florescent light you match in direct sun light or under sun light corective bulbs which all booths have

only on rare occasions do we ever blend up the hood and fenders, only on like tri-coats, and higher end cars and thats only if the color is so bad we have no choice but to blend to achieve color match, a good painter can blend black into white and you would never see the blend

me personlly no need to blend not at all, send me the bumper and your gas door and i`ll take care of it

how much?
cause i was considering the andys kit later on , so it may be unnessesary lol
thanks for the info tho..

cherrington17
06-01-2009, 01:24 PM
for the incorrect way... there have been people who said they used bondo, and its holding up fine.

but that doesn't answer the question of paint.


..and saying that also raised Bdy's blood pressure 3 pts. :lol:

bdyman
06-01-2009, 02:03 PM
yes it did, becasue i know it will crack off, leave a ring, its the incorrect way of customizing/repairing plastic, bottom line!!!! look at my front and rear bumpers, all plastic, look at scot`s shifter bezel all plastic,
iam not called the plastic man for nothing

and it would cost you more then a different bumper would so your better off going with the body kit

worknprog.99
06-01-2009, 02:20 PM
yes it did, becasue i know it will crack off, leave a ring, its the incorrect way of customizing/repairing plastic, bottom line!!!! look at my front and rear bumpers, all plastic, look at scot`s shifter bezel all plastic,
iam not called the plastic man for nothing

and it would cost you more then a different bumper would so your better off going with the body kit

ok as far as the body kit from andys goes does it directly line up or will fab work be needed.. (as you mentioned before i know nothing about doing good body work) lol

bdyman
06-01-2009, 02:24 PM
any aftermarket kit will need work, like your saying you have no experience i wouldnt attempt it but to make it look and fit like a factory piece it will get costly
look at the osv progress thread i started thats the kit iam doing for scot (oldsman)