Milzys awesomeness!

[xXManwhoreXx]

Alright well I don't work for milzy I assure you but holy crap I just got on their site for the first time in a few months and I'm really liking what I'm seeing!


http://www.milzymotorsports.com/miva/graphics/00000001/MMS3400BlockStuds_large.JPG

Discription: If you're looking to make some serious power with your 3400, but you're worried about keeping your bottom end together, this is the solution to your problem. These race blocks are built to take the abuse of high boost turbo applications as well as high compression naturally-aspirated applications. Complete with forged pistons , Eagle H-beam rods and ARP rod bolts, ARP head studs. Engines are balanced to allow for smoother operation at higher rpm's. Several different compression ratios are available to suit your application. Pistons are complete with valve reliefs to allow for safe lifts well over .600". More details are coming soon.

that comes with stage 1-3 cams of turbo or SC or NA!!!

than you have this

http://www.milzymotorsports.com/miva/graphics/00000001/3400S3Heads_large.JPG

Discription: If you're looking to build a beast of a 3400, these are the heads that will make it happen. These are quite simply the best heads available, bar none. No expense is spared with these heads. Max intake flow is over 290cfm! The valve diameter is increased so much that if they were any bigger, they would hit.

Stage 3 - Full port and polish, port-matching the intake runners, D-shaping/re-angling of exhaust ports, significant bowl work, correcting the short side radius, polished cc-matched combustion chambers

* Race Valve Job (9-angle Intake, radiused Exhaust)
* CC-matched combustion chambers
* stainless steel swirl-polished under-cut valves in oversized diameter (*see below)
* Comp Cams valve springs (160lbs at install height), Comp Cams titanium retainers, and Comp Cams keepers
* bronze valve guide liners
* new Viton valve seals
* assembled and toleranced
* clearanced for safe lifts up to .610"
* milling up to .020 free of charge

and finally

http://www.milzymotorsports.com/miva/graphics/00000001/GA%20downpipe%20_large.JPG

Like WOW! I need that if any of you have had your downpipe off before like I have you will have also noticed that it is double walled Honda Style.. this changes it from 2.0 to 2.5 while supposedly decreasing knock

anyways.. yea i need to start saving up, with buying the block with high compression pistons, and everything else I think it would be making big power, 240-250 range at least...

[cherrington17]

meh.

i think the general consensus is WOTTECH pwns.



...but maybe i'm wrong.. i can't keep up with this stuff... i'm no gearhead

[Oldsman]

WOTTECH > Milzy

[cherrington17]

can we get someone.... anyone... to produce headers for the 3.4 that DON'T cost, our first born child.... and are of good quality?

[xXManwhoreXx]

can we get someone.... anyone... to produce headers for the 3.4 that DON'T cost, our first born child.... and are of good quality?

I'm with ya man :-/ nice powercoated headers for my C-Rex cost like 200 bucks

[alerored04]

WOTTECH > Milzy

QFT! Price, service, support to the community all are in favor of WotTech. Ben rocks.

[xXManwhoreXx]

I'm not seeing forged pistons and built engines on Wot tech

[worknprog.99]

i live less than a mile from milzys store location... they are tuning my car when im done with the turbo... the owner mike is very nice

[Spilner521]

anyways.. yea i need to start saving up, with buying the block with high compression pistons, and everything else I think it would be making big power, 240-250 range at least...
Those are nice looking engine parts and all, but 240-250 is not big power...

[xXManwhoreXx]

to the ground? the Alero makes like 175 under the hood, but roughly 125.8 to the ground so thats over 100 hp N/A

not as much as boost but still something to brag about.

[jackal2000]

to the ground? the Alero makes like 175 under the hood, but roughly 125.8 to the ground so thats over 100 hp N/A

not as much as boost but still something to brag about.

since i have milzy products i guess i should comment. i had my car dynoed when it was bone stock and it made 144whp. after my motor was rebuilt with MMS stage 2 heads and cam along along with everything else that i have the car only made 187whp which is about 15whp less than the fastest gagt with the same mods. my best quarter mile time is 14.9, a full second slower than the fastest gagt with the same mods. granted, my tune needs work but i dont think i will ever completely close the gap on the numbers. with milzy it is hit and miss. i dont have the greatest fidelity in the stage 2 heads. i dont think he has ever produced a flow chart on them. i havent looked at gagt.com in a long ass time so maybe he has. then there was my fuel injector debacle. milzy kept sending me injectors that didnt work and looked like hell. i ended up getting a ful refund so his i am not knocking on his customer service, just quality/fidelity of parts. if i could do it over again i would have gone with ben because everything i have bought from his has been flawless. he even sent me 2 62mm throttle bodies for the price of one! i couldnt accept and sent one back :p

[lvemy3100]

milzy + awesomeness = oxymoron

WOT-Tech FTW!


also would like to point out that Ben is going to be adding Diamond forged pistons to his site soon and we (MP Racing) will be offering short and long blocks ranging from mild near stock builds to wild high CR or Boost builds.

[Redog]

^^ That's good to know. I will be looking for a block within 2 to 3 years.

I never bought off Milzy, but I delt with him for ASS '08 and he let us down. He just never showed up. He did e-mail me, but he e-mailed me on Friday, the day of our show (or late Thursday night) I posted on here that I will have no computer access after Monday of the week of ASS. I did manage to get on Aleromod after Monday, but no messages from Milzy. The wife and I headed to the show on Thursday afternoon and nothing from Milzy. Scot and I were waiting and he just didn't show :(

I am currently getting WOT-Tech upper and lower manifolds on my ho. I bought the upper from Fuller and the Lower from some Canadain kid on 60*V6.com. The upper was used and lower was new. I just bought the gasket kit from Ben. His service if top notch.

I will be gathering parts from my Alero soon. I will be getting a cam, rods, springs and retainers just to name a few, all from Ben. Heads are also in the works.

Milzy has a cool website, but from what I've heard, that's about it :ninja: I will agree the Mike is a nice guy however

[Beholder88]

I'm not seeing forged pistons and built engines on Wot tech

So get the Milzy engine and the WOT Tech everything else, at least until they get those diamond forged pistons and whatnot. Between both companies you could put together a pretty sick setup. Milzy has worked more with the 3800 SC engines than anything. I remember seeing a GP tearing it up in some video from their site.

[Redog]

Does anybody remember the thread of Ben and Milzy going back and forth :haha:

Ben owned Milzy ;)

[cherrington17]

too bad ben left the site....

[Redog]

Only for a little while I hope

[lvemy3100]

too bad ben left the site....

Only for a little while I hope

trust me he still "lurks"..

and I have been coming around here more and more frequently as of late. just waiting to get the word on when the banner stuff is worked out so I can give some money to this site ;)

[chevymuscle218]

For the price of the block and all, you could just buy a faster car! I was always told if you wanna go fast, buy a motorcycle,lol. Tried it though and its just not the same...

[Nate's Alero]

For the price of the block and all, you could just buy a faster car!

its not the car, its being different, i want to be different, and i like stock, speed is not everything you know, if you want speed, and can simply throw away a car for another, faster one, then you are not a true modder, look at ion.... he has but at least 3X what the car is worth, and still keeps going, because he likes being different, i think i speak for a lot of people on here, its the car and the chance to be different, not the speed and just the fact that it is fast, its the car and the love of Oldsmobile..

[Cliff8928]

So how well do milzy's parts flow on the flow-bench? :haha:

[Spilner521]

to the ground? the Alero makes like 175 under the hood, but roughly 125.8 to the ground so thats over 100 hp N/A

not as much as boost but still something to brag about.
Yes I meant to the ground too. 100whp gain isn't too shabby, but when you end up with only 250whp anyways, it's not really that much to brag about. For less money you could easily make that much power and more with boost.

[kwhauck]

wot-tech owns milzy.....

[xXManwhoreXx]

I say Milzy proves everyone wrong and builds my car as a test car and they prove to everyone by building my car for free, that Aleros can run 10s :-)


after 20k in parts that is...



Edit: that statement made no sense reading from your point of view but it makes sense to me.

[Redog]

For the price of the block and all, you could just buy a faster car! I was always told if you wanna go fast, buy a motorcycle,lol. Tried it though and its just not the same...

its not the car, its being different, i want to be different,

Exactly, why do you think I was building a Delta 88 for drag racing. Becuase I didn't want to go out and buy a "G" body Cutlass, Monte, Malibu like everybody else.

Also the same thing with an Olds motor. I was told that motor is junk and can NEVER be built to be fast. Why not? Anything you can do to a SBC can be done to a SBO. It is more money, but the look on people's faces when an Olds motor beats a Chevy. Plus you would not believe the amount of arguments that I got in at a few shows with guys telling me that I have a BBC in my car. I think I would know better than them :lol:

[Oldsman]

this is the once and only warning to everyone..........this thread is about Milzy and GM v-6 parts........not hondas or anything else so go off topic again and you will receive an infraction.

Thank you

[xXManwhoreXx]

this is the once and only warning to everyone..........this thread is about Milzy and GM v-6 parts........not hondas or anything else so go off topic again and you will receive an infraction.

Thank you


never mind, alright..

[cherrington17]

whoops. thought this was OT.

anyway...

I haven't really checked things out on both (nor would honestly know what i'm looking at) but does wottech have as much of a selection as milzy?

[WhiteV6]

No, I only deal with 60V6 Performance.

I was enjoying the honda discussion personally.

[Redog]

^^ Ben do you have or plan to have a 4T65 tranny swap kit?

[BlackJack]

^^ Ben do you have or plan to have a 4T65 tranny swap kit?
watch out ken, you're going to get a warning. that's not milzy, and a tranny isn't a GM v6. :rolleyes2:

But since a mod brought it up, I'd be interested to know too.

[Redog]

^^ Well it is realted to Milzy, becasue I'd rather buy from Ben ;)

[xXManwhoreXx]

I liked the honda talk too :(


Aleros are running out of stuff to talk about...

[WhiteV6]

The 4T65-E is a work in progress. A friend of mine has the complete setup already, but we are working on reproducing it as a kit (computer, axles, mounts, etc).

He is also working on something else that is really close to being done, and will help everyone here quite a bit. He noticed an improvement in handling, of all things...

Now what was this thread about? That race block and over ported heads? What kind of a race block uses the stock timing chain when the double roller is available? It shouldn't be an option for anyone considering that kind of money for what someone calls 'race'. That is my opinion. I will have all the parts needed to build a race block.

The stage 3 heads? Ill take stock 3500 heads over those. I spent a lot of time and money on 3400 heads, going larger valves and different seats and extreme porting. No expense may be spared for you when you buy MMS stage 3 heads, but no expense was spared by me to determine that 1.84" intake and 1.52" exhaust = junk in a 3400 head. That huge exhaust port? It doesn't flow very well.

[Redog]

Now what was this thread about? That race block and over ported heads? What kind of a race block uses the stock timing chain when the double roller is available? It shouldn't be an option for anyone considering that kind of money for what someone calls 'race'. That is my opinion. I will have all the parts needed to build a race block.



This is exactly why I'm going to buy from you. I saw that timing chain, but didn't want to say anything. 10.5 : 1 CR on a stock chain, :lol:

Basicly a n00b saw this on Milzy's site and I'll admit, if you don't know what you are looking at or know enough about it, it's cool.

After building the Delta's motor and seeing and realizing all the mistakes I made (and cost a ton of money too) You learn pretty damn quick

[xXManwhoreXx]

I don't know shit about OHV engines.. no lie there. Though I'm learning, I guess.....