magnuson kit

[kwhauck]

So, i was just looking at the magnuson kit that i picked up at SEMA this year, and I realized to myself, it would not be that hard to put together another magnuson supercharger kit with off the shelf parts, i could use 90% catalog parts, and only have to fab up 2 parts, not to mention it would be much more streamlined then the original kit, and if you started with blower size you could even use a new TVS blower in place of the m62......

now granted i'm not sure on prices, and now i'm not gonna do it, because i'm still focues on the whipple, but i just wanted to point out, it would not be that hard.....

[Nate's Alero]

i would buy, and im serious

[kwhauck]

if you would like to know my thinking i can explain further....

[rowdygls]

if you would like to know my thinking i can explain further....

I'm listening.

[Bad99Olds]

ditto. splain me.

[kwhauck]

k, so you are looking at one inlet, a nose drive, an m90 or m62 from a junkyard,

what is left is the outlet flow with mounting bracket, shaft mounting bracket (i am having several made as we speak) and maybe a couple little things like possible extension of tb cable, tb adapter plate.....

[Bad99Olds]

Fail. I will not buy from you.

[rowdygls]

I was hoping for information pertaining to using a TVS style blower with some exsisting M62 parts. That would be win.

[kwhauck]

let me look at the spec sheets on the tvs blowers....

[Nate's Alero]

i will, buy a setup for a COMPLETE KIT, i fail @fabbing....

[Bad99Olds]

i too would be interested in a complete kit, as i fail at ze fabbing.

[01OldsAleroGt]

my curosity is sparked.... im interested

[kwhauck]

hmm, well i'm not gonna waste my time or money with a maggie, but when the whipple is done, i may be willing to fab up a couple extra kits. We will see........

I was hoping for information pertaining to using a TVS style blower with some exsisting M62 parts. That would be win.

lookingat the spec sheets they are much bigger than the m62, like a minimum 1.5 taller, and 2 in. longer and only get bigger from there!!! Which is a lot considering that my whipple, which rapes even an m90 is actually about the same height and an inch shorter in length than the m62....

[Nate's Alero]

whatever you come up with, i already opened a bank account to take 20% out of my checks, saving already for this setup!

[jrim]

I too express interest in this setup but I'm not going to offer a 100% commitment for when it does roll around - you know how cash flow fluctuates.

[Nate's Alero]

I too express interest in this setup but I'm not going to offer a 100% commitment when it does roll around - you know how cash flow fluctuates.

i am going to offer about 90% commitment, unless the alero dies, them im all for it

[kwhauck]

so i just got off the phone, if i were piecing together a maggie kit, an m112 base supercharger is $1200 plus about $400 for a custom snout, and $70 for either inlet that both bolt right up to the m112, so that's $1700 for the parts, with custom mounts and a markup, the kit would probably run around $3000 if I were going the maggie route, but i'm not, but i wanted to throw that out there just so people know....

[Bad99Olds]

so what about the price for a whipple set up?

[jrim]

More expensive than I was imagining, I'd probably turbo instead for the cost.

[01OldsAleroGt]

hey kwhauck... what would be the expected amount of Boost that S/C would push on a stock 3400 ???

Cause if everything sounds good.. i think i def may opt for this

[kwhauck]

so what about the price for a whipple set up?

well, this thread was more of a feeler, but i would expect the whipple setup to be at or more than $3000 simply because the whipple cores are $1900 (cheapest i've found) to begin with, unless you shop around and snag a sweet deal like I did.

More expensive than I was imagining, I'd probably turbo instead for the cost.

you gotta pay to play, and if you don't have fabrication skills, try paying somebody to put together a supercharger or turbocharger kit for less than that ($3000), and i'm not talking about your buddy that knows EVERYTHING about turbos, i'm talking a legitimate shop that knows what they are doing, and stands behind their work.

hey kwhauck... what would be the expected amount of Boost that S/C would push on a stock 3400 ???

Cause if everything sounds good.. i think i def may opt for this

Until i have stuff mounted up, it's really a guessing game, with the stock motor once it is mounted up I probably won't push it really hard,

I made 281whp with the old m62 setup on a stock motor with an intercooler at about 14psi (the supercharger was really overspinning at about 12psi)

I hope to see close to 300whp at 10-12psi with the whipple

and once my built motor is in, i am hoping for 400whp at 10-12psi and who knows at high boost

That is another thing, maggies build up heat and fast, especially when you are starting to push into the upper rpms of the supercharger, on the otherhand whipple are so effecient that they run their best at high supercharger rpms and high boost, meaning that I will reach full boost of 18-22psi at 1800rpm on my motor :eek:

with the proper intercooler setup, a whipple supercharger can come within 1 or 2 percent of 100 percent effeciency at high boost and wot........a maggie usually runs in the 40-60% effeciency range under the same conditions....

[Bad99Olds]

Looks like im gonna opt for the whipple. I cant wait to start my new job, this will be fun.