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99alerogirl
03-25-2009, 02:15 PM
alright, so i'm where i wanted to be with my alero originally (as soon as i get my pcm back). i always told myself i wanted intake, exhaust, pcm, tint. now i have a job and want some input on where to go next. i was thinking of doing an appearance mod since all i have is tint and cleared corners... maybe some wheels or something. but where should i go next performance-wise?

here's what i've thought of, but i don't know if there's a logical order to go in:
-headers
-ported UIM and LIM along with the bigger TB (probably the competition set from wot-tech, planning on making my first trip to the track this year)
-OR the 3500 top swap, but i understand that this is probably a bit more expensive, and i don't exactly know what it requires.
-upgrade my exhaust to 2.5" mandrel bent pipe, possibly different muffler, mine's kinda raspy.. but that's a low priority

that's it, i don't know what else there is to do... obviously ported heads i guess? don't really know... let me know if i'm missing something easy. i do plan to turbo at SOME POINT in the future, but i figured building the engine up first is a good idea? and possibly investing in a new tranny before the turbo haha. any more suggestions? or which of these i should do first? keep in mind i have an extra 3400, so i've got some extra parts woohoo!

as far as appearance goes, i want to do wheels and a kit... probably the AAS kit. also eventually i wanna do something with paint, but that's also not a priority. OH and the razzi spoiler... sex. maybe the razzi kit rather than AAS if i go that route, don't know that the spoiler would look good with the AAS kit. not looking for anything too extravagant appearance-wise, more interested in the motor. thanks!

heineck
03-25-2009, 02:19 PM
light weight pulleys

mfuller
03-25-2009, 02:26 PM
If you are seriously planning to turbo it (not casually thinking, but really planning on it), don't waste your money on headers.
In fact, you really should decide now if you are going the forced induction route, or if you are staying NA - that will dictate a lot of your upgrade path.

Edit: Seeing as how the stock brakes are so woefully inadequate, I'd suggest upgrading them first...and it isn't too terribly expensive.

99alerogirl
03-25-2009, 02:29 PM
ok so no headers for a turbo? ha, i don't know much about it yet. i am planning on the turbo... just don't know what's needed. i know i'll have to have it custom fabbed, but what should i build up in the engine for more power before the turbo?

99alerogirl
03-25-2009, 02:34 PM
and there's not a s/c for the 3400 right? cause i'd probably rather do that i guess, but oh well!

lonnie
03-25-2009, 02:40 PM
and there's not a s/c for the 3400 right? cause i'd probably rather do that i guess, but oh well!This should help
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21593

mfuller
03-25-2009, 02:46 PM
ok so no headers for a turbo? ha, i don't know much about it yet. i am planning on the turbo... just don't know what's needed. i know i'll have to have it custom fabbed, but what should i build up in the engine for more power before the turbo?
You may want to do a bit of reading on how some of this stuff works before you get hip-deep in a project that ends up costing triple what you had budgeted.....
But without getting to deep into it, turbo manifolds (or headers) are quite a bit different than other headers. This is because the turbo is driven off the exhaust gasses, so the turbo needs to bolt directly to the manifold.
There are other supporting mods you can do for a turbo......better flowing heads and intake manifolds, etc. But what's good for a turbocharged engine is not necessarily optimal for an engine without a turbo, so you may want to wait until you have some idea of what exactly you want before you start buying parts.

cliffordwoeller
03-25-2009, 02:57 PM
so your building the engine up thats in the car ? and using the spare engine for replacement parts ? I want to get an extra engine and build that up then drop it in the ho, would that not be a better way of doing things if you were open to be patient ?

Caboose73
03-25-2009, 03:45 PM
Ya you should build up the spare engine and just take your time and plan everything out and definitely decide whether you want to go N/A or boost cause that makes a big difference in the direction of your build and the parts you have to buy.

[ion] C2
03-25-2009, 03:50 PM
no reason to be N/A

boost

Caboose73
03-25-2009, 03:57 PM
C2;445551']no reason to be N/A

boost

X1,000,000 boost is the way to go

cliffordwoeller
03-25-2009, 04:10 PM
yeah I def want to boost but want to get a extra engine, now if anyone has one thats just completly trash and just want to get it off their hands I would def be interested in buying a 2.4

pawzbear
03-25-2009, 04:35 PM
You need to go s/c instead... =))))

99alerogirl
03-25-2009, 04:38 PM
thanks guys... really quick question... got my pcm back, but now my car will turn over and not start... security light's not on or anything. i need to leave soon so quick advice would help!!

99alerogirl
03-25-2009, 04:48 PM
nvm... i thought you only needed the relearn if the security light was blinking... mines on when my key is turned to on... waiting for the 10 minutes...

Bad99Olds
03-25-2009, 04:50 PM
thats ur passlock. my ignition cyclider did that before it locked up. 500 down the tubes.

99alerogirl
03-25-2009, 04:50 PM
yeah i'll probably just build the spare up for boost i suppose. i know it's gonna be hella expensive, but that's the way i wanna go, so oh well. i need to read up on it!

Bad99Olds
03-25-2009, 04:51 PM
reading is overrated.

99alerogirl
03-25-2009, 04:52 PM
yeah when you don't know how

Bad99Olds
03-25-2009, 04:53 PM
yeah when you don't know how

hey, i learnd tew reed gewd. i spellz wel alsho.

99alerogirl
03-25-2009, 04:56 PM
nice... car started yay! now i'm off to have my fun night :)

Bad99Olds
03-25-2009, 04:56 PM
starting at 5 est? nice.

cliffordwoeller
03-25-2009, 05:34 PM
drink til vision is blurry and prince charming is standing in front of you

Bad99Olds
03-25-2009, 05:49 PM
i actually got so drunk once i was looking in a mirror and dancing with myself, thoroughly convinced i was the best looking person there. narcicism and excessive alcohol intake can be fun.

Caboose73
03-25-2009, 05:59 PM
Ill sell you mine when i get my new engine from OEM mine works fine it has around 150,000 miles on it no egr valve

yeah I def want to boost but want to get a extra engine, now if anyone has one thats just completly trash and just want to get it off their hands I would def be interested in buying a 2.4

kwhauck
03-25-2009, 08:59 PM
here's what i've thought of, but i don't know if there's a logical order to go in:
-buy kyle's OSV kit
-build spare motor
-boost the hell out of it


fixed.....

99alerogirl
03-28-2009, 06:37 PM
alright, got info from a guy at work on turbos and what all is needed, and I'm gonna build my spare engine for a turbo. what all do I need to build? heads? what else?

Bad99Olds
03-28-2009, 06:45 PM
alright, got info from a guy at work on turbos and what all is needed, and I'm gonna build my spare engine for a turbo. what all do I need to build? heads? what else?

the amount of boost you plan to run dictates what your engine build needs to include. how many pounds do you plan on running?

kwhauck
03-28-2009, 10:19 PM
i would get pistons, no matter what just to be safe, besides that, it depends on boost #s......

99alerogirl
03-29-2009, 12:35 PM
i want to run at least 10psi i think... but then again i don't exactly know, still just in the thinking stage right now. but i was told that 1 psi is roughly equal to 10 hp?

Nate's Alero
03-29-2009, 12:54 PM
i want to run at least 10psi i think... but then again i don't exactly know, still just in the thinking stage right now. but i was told that 1 psi is roughly equal to 10 hp?

of course that number goes down as you increase boost, loss of power and such occur

leoalero
03-29-2009, 12:58 PM
you cannot calculate psi with horses,you can,but it depends on what turbo you have,PSI is compressed air,not the flow,a big turbo will spool more flow but could be too big for your engine,creates turbo lags!not an expert in it but i think it works like that

Nate's Alero
03-29-2009, 01:00 PM
you cannot calculate psi with horses,you can,but it depends on what turbo you have,PSI is compressed air,not the flow,a big turbo will spool more flow but could be too big for your engine,creates turbo lags!not an expert in it but i think it works like that

well, dont forget, 10 PSI through a straw and 10 PSI through a 4" pipe, there is a difference

99alerogirl
03-29-2009, 03:28 PM
is 10 psi a good place to start?

billytheman1188
03-29-2009, 04:08 PM
is 10 psi a good place to start?

for you....yea probably. until you get everything built up and it runs good.....then you will get greedy and want more PSI. happens every time;)

dhurst765
03-29-2009, 04:08 PM
is there a turbo kit for the ecotec

billytheman1188
03-29-2009, 04:09 PM
is there a turbo kit for the ecotec
:banghead::banghead::banghead:

cherrington17
03-29-2009, 04:09 PM
is there a turbo kit for the ecotec

nope...never heard of one. ever.... they don't exist.

heineck
03-29-2009, 04:18 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha: