Mufflers.

[xstrong4lifex]

I thinking of getting a Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler but I want duel exhaust which one do I order?

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&y=0&N=700+115&searchinresults=false&Ntt=Dynomax+Super+Turbo+muffler&x=0

[Midgear]

search around on here.. im sure theres a link for it..

could get it off ebay for a possibly lower price too.

[Valley olds]

Go for one with single inlet and dual outlet. Super turbo is a nice muffler. I had it in my delta and it was pretty quiet. Dont know how itll sound on the eco though. Also, if you are doing this for performance, replace all the exhaust piping. Replacing just the muffler will not do much for performance, just sound.

[Misuseofyou]

Is there any point other than looks to having dual outlets/tips? Seems like the extra bends would be more restriction?

[Midgear]

Is there any point other than looks to having dual outlets/tips? Seems like the extra bends would be more restriction?

hardly.. especially on a naturally aspirated engine lol

[xstrong4lifex]

Go for one with single inlet and dual outlet. Super turbo is a nice muffler. I had it in my delta and it was pretty quiet. Dont know how itll sound on the eco though. Also, if you are doing this for performance, replace all the exhaust piping. Replacing just the muffler will not do much for performance, just sound.

I was told not to get the Pacesetter catback from Ion.

I was going to get a Pacesetter Header and this muffler I liked to do new pipping but cost a lot unless someone has suggestions.

[Midgear]

I was told not to get the Pacesetter catback from Ion.

DO NOT get the pacesetter system for the 2.2L ecotec.. it sounds fine on my car only because I have the 3400 V6.

on a 2.4L or 2.2L, it sounds like a weed eater fixin to spontaneously combust. its grotesque.

[Valley olds]

xstrong4lifex: I was told not to get the Pacesetter catback from Ion. I was going to get a Pacesetter Header and this muffler I liked to do new pipping but cost a lot unless someone has suggestions.

Maybe have it custom fabbed at an exhaust shop. Down here they charged me less than 100 for the piping-the muffler.

[xstrong4lifex]

Maybe have it custom fabbed at an exhaust shop. Down here they charged me less than 100 for the piping-the muffler.

Maybe I'll find out and go with the pace header and muffler.

[Midgear]

Maybe I'll find out and go with the pace header and muffler.

please dont! :cry:

[xstrong4lifex]

please dont! :cry:



which part?

I am just being told by Ion.

[Valley olds]

Yeah, pace muffler is a big no no on the eco. The muffler is what gives the exhaust its sound, not the piping. So Im suggesting, for piping go custom (if cheap) and for muffler go with one of your choice. I would get the super turbo.

[xstrong4lifex]

Yeah, pace muffler is a big no no on the eco. The muffler is what gives the exhaust its sound, not the piping. So Im suggesting, for piping go custom (if cheap) and for muffler go with one of your choice. I would get the super turbo.

Pace header
and Dynomax turbo muffler.

[Valley olds]

^yeah, or if you want a little louder, magnaflow is known for a nice sound as well. A couple members here also recommend borla.

[xstrong4lifex]

^yeah, or if you want a little louder, magnaflow is known for a nice sound as well. A couple members here also recommend borla.

So magnaflow turbo?

[Midgear]

Pace header
and Dynomax turbo muffler.

that is good.. stay away from the pacesetter muffler, the header is fine lol

[[ion] C2]

Don't worry guys I've been PMing this guy back and forth since before he made this thread.

The Dynomax Super Turbo will sound the best.

Extra bends being more restriction on a single inlet, dual outlet muffler? LOL.

[Valley olds]

^hadnt seen that "extra bends" post. Other than looks, there is no benefit, but there is no drawback either.

[xstrong4lifex]

C2;433209']Don't worry guys I've been PMing this guy back and forth since before he made this thread.

The Dynomax Super Turbo will sound the best.

Extra bends being more restriction on a single inlet, dual outlet muffler? LOL.

Sorry. I just want to make sure I am doing this all right and order all the right parts for the muffler shop.

[[ion] C2]

If you want the single in, dual out, it's part number 17739.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Dynomax/289/17739/10002/-1
$61.99

That's what I have. You're going to ASS right?

[darksobsession]

i have a flowmaster muffler, pacesetter header

sounds great

[xstrong4lifex]

C2;433217']If you want the single in, dual out, it's part number 17739.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Dynomax/289/17739/10002/-1
$61.99

That's what I have. You're going to ASS right?

Where is it? Yeah you can even harass me for sending you way to PMs.

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

buy a muffler like the one vinalero has for sale or buy it from him if it doesn't sell.

[Redog]

I think it's the I motor in general

When I was thinking about buying a Bravada I was checking out mufflers for it. I was just going to do a swap, not an entire exhaust, and finding videos on Youtube of Trailblazers, Evnoys, and Bravadas with the 4.2 I-6 motor, even they didn't sound that good :eek:

[Midgear]

Where is it? Yeah you can even harass me for sending you way to PMs.


I hope I didn't throw you off by sending you those links to what mine sounds like :lol:

didn't know you had the L61

[[ion] C2]

super turbo ftw on 4 cylinders....

ASS
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=38

[Misuseofyou]

C2;433209']
Extra bends being more restriction on a single inlet, dual outlet muffler? LOL.

You suck at logic; I wasn't even talking about your recommendation. The bends are in the piping going to both sides of the car. Heres a pic since you need it. BTW I'm not making any statements about it being restrictive, it was a question (since jumping down my throat for that would be your next move).

http://www.dinancars.com/assets/Image/white%20papers/e46m3exhaust2.jpg

[Misuseofyou]

So, if you have 2.25" or 2.5" and you split that out to two mufflers, are you gaining anything?

[Alerosaint]

please dont! :cry:

the pacsetter header with a custom muffler is not bad...my car dont sound like a weed eater it a got a nice deep tone albiet a lil loud even for the dynomax... oh wait you endorsed the header...my bad for speed reading

[[ion] C2]

You suck at logic; I wasn't even talking about your recommendation.Oh I'm sorry. Yes. I suck at logic, because you replied to a topic whose posts are all about single inlet dual outlet mufflers, and I'm supposed to assume you're talking about whatever-the-fuck else you're thinking inside your head.
The bends are in the piping going to both sides of the car. Heres a pic since you need it.

http://www.dinancars.com/assets/Image/white%20papers/e46m3exhaust2.jpg
By the way, inline four engines tend to only have one bank of cylinders, so that image is completely useless. It's a single header with a single pipe going back to a muffler. Whether that muffler is a single inlet, dual outlet, or single inlet, single outlet will not dramatically change overall flow.

Splitting that single pipe into two by using a Y-pipe and then going into two mufflers will also not prove to be any restriction, as, you seemingly fail to understand, by making two pipes out of one, you're increasing the overall volume of the piping, making even less of a restriction as the exhaust gases expand to fill the chambers.

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

oops I might of posted the wrong username in my last post, chances are I did. I'm too tired for this night shifts mess me up.

[Midgear]

the pacsetter header with a custom muffler is not bad...my car dont sound like a weed eater it a got a nice deep tone albiet a lil loud even for the dynomax... oh wait you endorsed the header...my bad for speed reading

no I said "please dont" because I thought he meant he was going for the pacesetter muffler :lol:

i should edit that post..

[Misuseofyou]

TLDR honestly, just a bunch of bullshit I'm sure. If you read his first post, he says he wants dual exhaust, which I replied to with a question. Yes, the ecotec has 1 downpipe, but as you can see in the pic I took 2 seconds to find, theres bends in that thar piping. Since this is in the ECOTEC folder, and ecotecs have 1 downpipe.. thats right I was asking about splitting the pipe.

[Alerosaint]

or I should read the whole thread while eating some pie might calm the eyes......lol...but yes pacsetter catback + ld9 = sound suckage squared

[[ion] C2]

TLDR honestly, just a bunch of bullshit I'm sure.
So you skip over a response and then make a response based on what you haven't read. :wtf2:
If you read his first post
If you read his PMs...
he says he wants dual exhaust, which I replied to with a question.
And the question you posed was:
Is there any point other than looks to having dual outlets/tips? Seems like the extra bends would be more restriction?
Inquiring about dual outlets and/or tips. NOT dual mufflers. Coinciding with every other response in the thread. Then I replied about the laughable thought that having dual outlets from a single in muffler would create any kind of restriction.

And then you come back and make it out to be as if you were talking about a Y-pipe setup and two mufflers and all that garbage (which no one is talking about), to try and cover your ass... it's unbelieveable. An absolute failure, and you don't even see it.

[Bad99Olds]

pwned. win goes to chris. end of story.

[[ion] C2]

You know that I know what I'm talking about. I have been around longer than you have (age-wise and Alero and car-wise), and have extensively modified my car and aided a lot of people on here, and started up Aleromod Upgrades, a massive how-to and information database on modifying this vehicle, and I have a custom exhaust setup on my own Alero. I don't claim to know everything, but I definitely know more than you in this area...

The only explanation for your actions is that you're a mere 17 year old who's just now feeling his balls after they recently dropped and is wanting to fight with anyone who dares to post something that makes your post look wrong.

[Misuseofyou]

It clearly means a lot to him, look at all that quoting and the page long responses. Tomorrow I'll see if he managed to answer that really basic question I asked in the third post of this thread.

[Bad99Olds]

It clearly means a lot to him, look at all that quoting and the page long responses. Tomorrow I'll see if he managed to answer that really basic question I asked in the third post of this thread.

ur 17, and clearly dont know what ur talking about. stop arguing, and learn something.

[[ion] C2]

So, if you have 2.25" or 2.5" and you split that out to two mufflers, are you gaining anything?
No, it's better to have the same size piping (or slightly bigger piping as it goes out) all the way into a single muffler. Two mufflers would be extra weight, would drop velocity down quite a bit as it goes through two separate pipes and mufflers.

There's no reason not to just have a single in/dual out just like the OP is asking for. Just like what we PM'd about, as the dual tips can be accomplished with mere piping coming out from a single muffler and routed to either side of the car.

V-engines tend to have individual mufflers per each bank of cylinders likely for enhanced muffling since it would be a lot of exhaust gases to cram from 8 cylinders into one muffler.

[Spilner521]

Yeah well I know more than all of you....so there.

[[ion] C2]

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[AleroDrime]

in regards to the remark about the extra bends cuasing more restriction in the dual outlet is an easy fix by splitting the pipe with a Y after the muffler to create dual exits, how my truck was done, douple the tone of the muffler too

[Misuseofyou]

I have to say you're right, and in my first post I mis spoke. Reading it now, its not what I was thinking. I thought that he wanted two mufflers as I've seen before and thought that it made no sense to split your 1 pipe into two, when you could just get 1 good muffler capable of handling w/e amount of flow you need. Pretty much what has been said, except I was unable to articulate it.

I'm not going to respond to every point you made in your last 3 or so posts, but I'm not 17 and I just wanted to discuss the point, without being laughed at. Grats on your car knowledge, I never questioned it in the first place.

[Valley olds]

Misuseofyou: Is there any point other than looks to having dual outlets/tips? Seems like the extra bends would be more restriction?

There should be no difference, even if you do use a single inlet dual outlet muffler. Basically the dual 2.5" (5" total) outlets are allowing the exhaust gases from one 2.5" inlet to evacuate. 5" should be plenty to do this, regardless of the bends.

[[ion] C2]

I have to say you're right, and in my first post I mis spoke. Reading it now, its not what I was thinking. I thought that he wanted two mufflers as I've seen before and thought that it made no sense to split your 1 pipe into two, when you could just get 1 good muffler capable of handling w/e amount of flow you need. Pretty much what has been said, except I was unable to articulate it.

I'm not going to respond to every point you made in your last 3 or so posts, but I'm not 17 and I just wanted to discuss the point, without being laughed at. Grats on your car knowledge, I never questioned it in the first place.

lol k, i was having a bad day

could've sworn your profile had your age in it yesterday

[Misuseofyou]

I'm 22, though I'm sure at 32 and 52 I'll still have my head up my ass some days.

[econewb22]

im wantin to do the duals too...anyone got pics/videos of one?

[Misuseofyou]

Fuck not this thread!

[Gr1m]

they are going to have to either split the exhaust in the back after the pipe goes over the suspension if you want dual mufflers, or you can get a single in / dual out muffler and just have them run 2 pipes out the back from the mufflers exits, photobucket is down for maintenance or id post a pic of mine