Pacesetter Header help

[AtomicX]

Hey I got the armor coated pacesetter header and it looks like they welded the flange too close to the O2 sensor bung. I cann't get the screw in through the hole without it hitting it. Am I doing something wrong or did Pacesetter weld this wrong?

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k194/Avengedfuries/DSC00550.jpg?t=1232133867

[[ion] C2]

ahhh that sucks

so with the bolt inserted the other way you can't get it in because the angle's too steep to fit through the hole? (the bolt goes in the other way)

[AtomicX]

Can't fit either way =\

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k194/Avengedfuries/DSC00552.jpg?t=1232134307

[[ion] C2]

mine looks the same way actually

except i bought this new from some guy on JBO but no bolts were included, at Midas we used some other bolts. they don't need to be that long.

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

put the header in first. then you'll have to drop the bolts into those holes. for that particular one, you can hammer it in. if you have long wrenches, it would help in the hammering process, so you can ad more swing to the hammer.

[CBLOHM3400]

installed header and tighten bolt on oppositie side then run bolt just long enought to make it thur both flanges from the bottom
(bolt just long enough to make it thru both flanges with a lock nut )

[AtomicX]

C2;420929']mine looks the same way actually

except i bought this new from some guy on JBO but no bolts were included, at Midas we used some other bolts. they don't need to be that long.

How much did they charge you to put it on?

[[ion] C2]

don't remember lol, took us like 2.5 hrs though

you definitely want a lift! and welding capabilities. and air tools.

[AtomicX]

I went to two custom exhaust shops, and meineki and they all said they won't install the header because its too hard for them?? The only place that would do it for me is monro muffler or something like that, quoted 180 bucks.

[BeyondTheLimits+01Alero]

180.. They charge 90 an hour for labor most likely.. I had Street Legal Customs install my exhaust.. 160 for install.. so That sounds about right for a 2 hour job.

[[ion] C2]

The only place that would do it for me is monro muffler or something like that, quoted 180 bucks.
have them do it
180.. They charge 90 an hour for labor most likely.. I had Street Legal Customs install my exhaust.. 160 for install.. so That sounds about right for a 2 hour job.

lol i had Midas on Woodward just north of SLC do all my exhaust, those guys love my car

[BeyondTheLimits+01Alero]

haha nice! come visit me at SLC ><
and back to topic... yes. have them do it. That way you know its done right, and you will love it.

[AtomicX]

Update...

Well just went to Monro muffler to have it done, they start to do it and they come to me and say, "we can't get the bolts off and we don't want to force them off and break them, then you will be screwed". GAH! I need a damn place who will install this for me!!!

[[ion] C2]

have they ever thought of using air tools?

[AtomicX]

C2;421931']have they ever thought of using air tools?

Doubt it,

Im about to head to the nearest Midas Ion, since you had a good experience with them.

[[ion] C2]

at least the one on Woodward Avenue... lol

[Caboose73]

Its not that hard to do it yourself if no shop will do it for you it just takes time cause its a tight fit.I would just do yourself and bring it to an exhaust shop to have them weld the down pipe to the rest of the exhaust.

[AtomicX]

Its not that hard to do it yourself if no shop will do it for you it just takes time cause its a tight fit.I would just do yourself and bring it to an exhaust shop to have them weld the down pipe to the rest of the exhaust.

Yeah but what if I break a bolt like all the shops say, will I officially be screwed?

[Caboose73]

You could be unless you want to drill out the bolt and put a new one in if thats possible.I dont think your going to find a shop that will do it for cheap $ if your bolts are that bad.

[whiterider00]

AtomicX, where in MA are you? if youre in western mass i know of a couple places thatll install it. i was quoted about half of what you were too.

[AtomicX]

AtomicX, where in MA are you? if youre in western mass i know of a couple places thatll install it. i was quoted about half of what you were too.

I'm at the north shore.

[Fenderxcore]

Hey I'm new here so just sayin hi to u all

But I also got a question...I'm pickin up the pacesetter headers for my 2.2...Is there really that big of a difference between the black painted ones an the armor coated ones? Besides the $110 difference...I'm leaning more towards the black painted ones to save some money

Any recommendations?...Thank you

Fender

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

armor coated? unless you mean ceramic coated, I'm not sure what you mean. but the paint on the painted ones will burn right off.

[Fenderxcore]

armor coated? unless you mean ceramic coated, I'm not sure what you mean. but the paint on the painted ones will burn right off.

Thats what the website says ha...But I guess they double coat the paint on the painted ones...Don't know how much of a difference that makes

[Caboose73]

If you want to do it your self heres a nice how2 i found i dont know why its not sticky http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25111&highlight=s%2Fc

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

^check the How-to section. ;)

[Caboose73]

I know its in there i just figured it would be sticky in the 2.4 section cause people ask about this all the time and dont bother searching

[NickAlero2000]

lol true....
and i'd imagine the paint burns off half as fast if its double coated :lol:

[Fenderxcore]

Oh yeah one more question...Does anybody know the actual increase in horsepower I'll be getting from the headers on my 2.2 eco?

Thanks