LNJ fuel system swap?

[-Alero-]

i was wondering if it were possible to swap to the LNJ fuel system? maybe if it was possibly better, the LNJ is the chinese revised version of the LA1, found in pontiac torrents and equinoxs..... i know it uses a different rail regulator and injectors and was curious if this would be an upgrade over stock in any way...

[-Alero-]

appreciate it if possibly CLiff would chime in

[cherrington17]

:lol: he might be one of the few that'd actually know what your talking about.

[Redog]

I thought the 3400 had no protential

[-Alero-]

it doesnt especially when they make shitty ass after market FPR's for them and they fuck up

[AftermathAlero]

it doesnt especially when they make shitty ass after market FPR's for them and they eff up

shiet.. i just converted my LA1 3400 fuel rail over to -AN fitting and used any aftermarket FPR.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/Aftermathalero/TURBO/DSC03936.jpg

[-Alero-]

yeah i thought about going to the AN just curious if the LNJ would be a more easy route, but what size AN did you use again?

[Redog]

it doesnt especially when they make shitty ass after market FPR's for them and they eff up

I'm sorry you didn't buy an "off-the-shelf" car :rolleyes2:

[-Alero-]

I'm sorry you didn't buy an "off-the-shelf" car :rolleyes2:

right back at you? :rolleyes2:


i honestly do not understand how to communicate with you, sorry

[AftermathAlero]

yeah i thought about going to the AN just curious if the LNJ would be a more easy route, but what size AN did you use again?

Stainless steel fitting
http://www.mpracing.org/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=328

OR

Aluminum fitting
http://www.mpracing.org/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=360

Both -6AN.

Then I got my local parker hose store to make me a stainless steel braided line w/ 6AN ends on it. But I only used the return side w/ the AN fitting bought through MPracing.


I can piece you the setup I have. SARD AFPR, w/ stainless steel braided lines and fittings.

Pic of the SARD AFPR, I get them through my work.
http://www.projectnissan.com/shopping/pc/catalog/sard/srd-fuelRegulator.jpg

Same one I used on my car. Its JDM! lol.

[Redog]

right back at you? :rolleyes2:


i honestly do not understand how to communicate with you, sorry

I'm not sorry I didn't buy an off-the-shelf car

You don't seem to communicate, you whine and cry too much IMO. You try to prove everybody wrong and only prove yourself wrong in the process. There is nothing wrong with not knowing everything, but there is everything wrong with acting like you know everything.

I really think you'd be much happier with a Civic, or a Mustang. A car that you can just go to a speed shop or go to Google and type in "X" performance parts and get over 10,000,000 pages of parts ;)

This is why I bought the Alero. I liked it, and it's hard to get performacne parts for it, but all the motors in the Alero are great motors and take to mods very well. Anybody with a modded Alero with agree with me.

The Delta, the same story. It's not impossible to get parts for it, but I can get them. It takes a little thing called "searching" It's what makes my cars unquie.

[Redog]

Stainless steel fitting
http://www.mpracing.org/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=328

OR

Aluminum fitting
http://www.mpracing.org/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=360

Both -6AN.

Then I got my local parker hose store to make me a stainless steel braided line w/ 6AN ends on it. But I only used the return side w/ the AN fitting bought through MPracing.


I can piece you the setup I have. SARD AFPR, w/ stainless steel braided lines and fittings.

Pic of the SARD AFPR, I get them through my work.
http://www.projectnissan.com/shopping/pc/catalog/sard/srd-fuelRegulator.jpg

Same one I used on my car. Its JDM! lol.

Is that adjustable ;)

[Cliff8928]

I don't know why you would want to do that setup. There is no FPR on that rail. The FPR is integrated into the fuel pump module, it is a returnless system. I'm not sure on the flow of the injectors, but the shape of the rail looks like it may interfere with the neck on the plenum where the throttle body goes on. The neck on the LNJ comes out the top of the plenum, that's why it looks so tall.

[AftermathAlero]

Is that adjustable ;)

it is! You adjust the nut on the top, then set the set screw so it dont move.

[alerored04]

Alero what kind of mods do you have planned that you want to change the fuel system? I was shocked that my cammed setup still has a little of injector efficiency left. Redog why do you put him down for asking questions? He is putting something together now and might believe in the LA1 now, why discourage that?

[-Alero-]

I don't know why you would want to do that setup. There is no FPR on that rail. The FPR is integrated into the fuel pump module, it is a returnless system. I'm not sure on the flow of the injectors, but the shape of the rail looks like it may interfere with the neck on the plenum where the throttle body goes on. The neck on the LNJ comes out the top of the plenum, that's why it looks so tall.


that was seriously all i wanted to know, the question was really for you because i knew you had axcess to seeing the shapes of things, just wanted to find this out before i made a different decision, thanks

[-Alero-]

I'm not sorry I didn't buy an off-the-shelf car

You don't seem to communicate, you whine and cry too much IMO. You try to prove everybody wrong and only prove yourself wrong in the process. There is nothing wrong with not knowing everything, but there is everything wrong with acting like you know everything.

I really think you'd be much happier with a Civic, or a Mustang. A car that you can just go to a speed shop or go to Google and type in "X" performance parts and get over 10,000,000 pages of parts ;)

This is why I bought the Alero. I liked it, and it's hard to get performacne parts for it, but all the motors in the Alero are great motors and take to mods very well. Anybody with a modded Alero with agree with me.

The Delta, the same story. It's not impossible to get parts for it, but I can get them. It takes a little thing called "searching" It's what makes my cars unquie.



dude wtf...i joined aleromod like 3 months after you and your attacking me with this 5 years later!? wtf.........


here i think you just want to hear this, MY CAR IS BONE STOCK AND IM NOT ALERO OF THE MONTH BECAUSE IM BONE STOCK, AND I DIDNT ORDER THE OSV KIT BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS ABLE TO BUY IT OFF THE SHELF OF MY LOCAL ABERTSONS

jesus tap dancing christ when have i ever came off as knowing everything? if someone asks a question and i know the answer to i asnwer it, if i dont know the asnwer to something i ask it, just like this fucking thread, god damn....

its like i should fucking appologize that i drive the alero, and dont drive it the way you would or dont buy the shit you would for it, i seriously do not know what you want from me

[JOEY GLADSTONE]

well i just think its funny that you were saying how bad the 3400 is and now you want to mod it, im not getting involved though.

[-Alero-]

well i just think its funny that you were saying how bad the 3400 is and now you want to mod it, im not getting involved though.


you just did

my 3400 has always been modded.....since 2002...... and still to this day it still isnt running right, i constanly get bank 1 too lean, lower catalyst below threshold, but i still sink money into it, i still drive it, i still entrust it with my fucking life every god damn day. just stop take a second and ask every single person who ever owned a la1 and ask them how many problems they had........everyone has a problem out of this motor......and for that some v6 aleros are worth even less money than the 4 cylinder bretherins...theres a reason they discontinued the la1 and a reason the l61 came out on top........but what the fuck ever you know, doesnt mean im getting rid of it.

[Redog]

dude wtf...i joined aleromod like 3 months after you and your attacking me with this 5 years later!? wtf.........


here i think you just want to hear this, MY CAR IS BONE STOCK AND IM NOT ALERO OF THE MONTH BECAUSE IM BONE STOCK, AND I DIDNT ORDER THE OSV KIT BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS ABLE TO BUY IT OFF THE SHELF OF MY LOCAL ABERTSONS

jesus tap dancing christ when have i ever came off as knowing everything? if someone asks a question and i know the answer to i asnwer it, if i dont know the asnwer to something i ask it, just like this effing thread, god damn....

its like i should effing appologize that i drive the alero, and dont drive it the way you would or dont buy the shit you would for it, i seriously do not know what you want from me

Remember when I gave you my phone number to help you over the phone, and you kept calling me, and I helped you, up until a certain point. That point was when you started to cry over the phone. zThis has been discussed on Aleromod a few times. I even remember what it was about. It was the gauge pod hook up. You asked where the best place to get power was and I told you behind the radio. After you got the bezel off, you couldn't get the radio out and you started to wimper like a lost puppy. Dude, it's 4 7mm bolts!!! get over it

Do you remember when I stopped answering the phone whenever you called? Pretty easy to do since you were the only TN area code calling me :lol:

Now there's no need to get your panties in a bunch. You hang yourself with your own words with just abut every singal post.

"The LA1 has no pontenal"
"What if I mod it with a Chinese 3400 fuel system" :wtf2:

Really though, I don't hate you or anything. I actually think your posts are pretty funny, well the ones that are car posts.

There are people that want to be helped and there is the helpless ;)

[Redog]

"Those that stop learning, whether they are 20 or 80, are old. Those that keep on learning stay young" -- Henry Ford

[Bmorezcmunee]

*sniff* *sniff* anyone body smell that? somebody just got shit on

[-Alero-]

"Those that stop learning, whether they are 20 or 80, are old. Those that keep on learning stay young" -- Henry Ford


wow thanks alero dad your my fuckin hero.............that whole radio wire hook up thing was the worst idea i ever heard.......i tried following a footstep you took and it turned out like shit. sorry im not a big fucking success like you

anyfucking ways, you think im wimpering and whinning, thats your perspective not mine, you post your sorry ass sob stories all the damn time about your poor poor fuel pump and your precious dash, and how you have to live life day by day racing your car


your how old 30? 40? and you act like the LA1 is a way of fucking life, its seriously pathetic you cant fucking look past that its a fucking car, its a fucking plan jane motor, and you make it out to be GM's most hailed and appraised motor.......pisses me off your making this whole life of V6 fast lane life your responsibility to rub off on anyone you feel threatened by, its like you have to argue with someone if its not done the way youve done it.......but as i recall you dont do anything to your car.....you critisize me for this off the shelf bull shit, when your fucking ass just sees something you like and your like "oh cool ill buy this" and then just hand your car to your mechanic and say "here put this on"...........yeah you must be the most respected person here

you cant fucking accept the fact that i have an opinion, my opinion that i do not prefer your favorite v6.........thats my fucking opinion not yours, and since you have a v6 as well you feel its your obligation to shit piss about it, and thats exactly why we cant keep consistant people around on this board cause its people like you that have to religiously pound someone for not having the exact opinion of yours..........god damn

[01oldsgls]

*sniff* *sniff* anyone body smell that? somebody just got shit on

nope, that was the the smell 100 miles away of the shit -alero- just took on redog lol

look we all know the la1 is not the greatest powerplant to modify, yet many of us still do. anyone on this god damn bored has every right to complain about any eff up gm makes, becuase lord knows there has been enough, as well as a lot of successes, its a mixed bag. like -alero- said, he still mods his car, still drives it, still trusts his life with it. just because he thinks that the fuel system in the la1 blows, which imo it does, doesnt mean he needs to get shit on by king of the the seventh bastard child in line to be king of the 3400.

a forum is about an open expression of ideas, which everyone on here does quite well. and i reall think the call out about "whimpering" was unnecissary and sorta tasteless, but thats just me.

[Midgear]

I thought the 3400 had no protential


I'm sorry you didnt buy an off-the-shelf car


I'm not trying to take sides here.. but did THOSE comments really need to be made? it's like you were looking forward to taking this thread and turning into a shithole of arguments like other threads have turned out to be- (not saying you were, that's just what it looks like to me, you certainly put some effort into pissing him off)

Seriously.. he doesnt flame you every time you pop up with a new question or idea.. sure mabey you were just teasing or givin' him shit because he hates the 3400.. but when he comes up with a somewhat logical idea or question, and brings it to the attention of his fellow aleromodders.. he shouldn't get jumped or attacked over it..

I say we all grab a piece of pie and get over ourselves and eachother :p

[01oldsgls]

shots of bourbon for all !

[Midgear]

shots of bourbon for all !


screw that.. roll out the cooler full of ice and beer lol

[kwhauck]

i'll pass on the bourbon, how bout some jack!!!

[Midgear]

^^ whatever tickles your pickle-

[Redog]

wow thanks alero dad your my effin hero.............that whole radio wire hook up thing was the worst idea i ever heard.......i tried following a footstep you took and it turned out like shit. sorry im not a big effing success like you

anyeffing ways, you think im wimpering and whinning, thats your perspective not mine, you post your sorry ass sob stories all the damn time about your poor poor fuel pump and your precious dash, and how you have to live life day by day racing your car


your how old 30? 40? and you act like the LA1 is a way of effing life, its seriously pathetic you cant effing look past that its a effing car, its a effing plan jane motor, and you make it out to be GM's most hailed and appraised motor.......pisses me off your making this whole life of V6 fast lane life your responsibility to rub off on anyone you feel threatened by, its like you have to argue with someone if its not done the way youve done it.......but as i recall you dont do anything to your car.....you critisize me for this off the shelf bull shit, when your effing ass just sees something you like and your like "oh cool ill buy this" and then just hand your car to your mechanic and say "here put this on"...........yeah you must be the most respected person here

you cant effing accept the fact that i have an opinion, my opinion that i do not prefer your favorite v6.........thats my effing opinion not yours, and since you have a v6 as well you feel its your obligation to shit piss about it, and thats exactly why we cant keep consistant people around on this board cause its people like you that have to religiously pound someone for not having the exact opinion of yours..........god damn


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Did mommy help you with this post??? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[alerored04]

/\ What an adult and witty comment. You are not doing yourself any favors redog. He did not pick this fight, you need to start acting your age and show a little damn respect rather than pissing on a thread just cause you don't like the guy, even though you have nothing constructive to add. Grow up.

[jayson_waltz]

^(to redog) not gonna lie, your supposed to be the guy trying to put down that kind of behavior. your acting like a buch of little kids shesh get over it seems like very thread lately has an argument. although funny, it gets annoying after a while.
you actually did provoke this fight, not -alero-. maybe ban yourself for awhile? might get u thinkin a bit.
its pretty bad when i think your acting like kids and i'm one of the youngest people on the site. think a bit b4 you post.

[Redog]

wow thanks alero dad your my effin hero.............

Thank you I already knew that

that whole radio wire hook up thing was the worst idea i ever heard.......i tried following a footstep you took and it turned out like shit. sorry im not a big effing success like you

I can't help somebody that doesn't listen. You asked how I did it. I told you, you asked me to walk you thought it. Sorry you couldn't make it work that way, but again, I can't help somebody that doesn't want to listen

any effing ways, you think im wimpering and whinning, thats your perspective not mine,

My perspective was right in this case

you post your sorry ass sob stories all the damn time about your poor poor fuel pump and your precious dash,

I posted about the dash because this is an Alero board and everybody's having the same problem. I use the other posts to get the ideas on how to fix it the right way. Not cry about it and have somebody wave a magical wand and make it all better

and how you have to live life day by day racing your car

Yes racing is a part of my life, a PART, but, we already know that your perspectives are usually wrong, this is another case


your how old 30? 40?

old enough to fix problems and not cry about it

and you act like the LA1 is a way of effing life,

ummmm no but again an -Alero- perspective

its seriously pathetic you cant effing look past that its a effing car, its a effing plan jane motor, and you make it out to be GM's most hailed and appraised motor

I've been into cars since before you where a thought in mommy's mind and no motor if perfect, but yet another -Alero- perspective

.......pisses me off

I'm having fun, why are you pissed off? o well that makes it more fun

your making this whole life of V6 fast lane life your responsibility to rub off on anyone you feel threatened by,

you really think I feel threatened by you, that's even funnier :haha:

its like you have to argue with someone if its not done the way youve done it.

no not true, it just seems that way to you

......but as i recall you dont do anything to your car.....

I'm sorry, are you stalking me now, if you were, you'd know that was an incorrect statement. I never said I knew everything and did everything myself. Why do you ask my wife about all the work I do to the Alero, and the other 2 cars for that matter. O yeah my neighbor's 71 Alfa needed a alternator belt installed, who did that? Me!! BTW Italian cars are a bitch to work on, but you already knew that one

you critisize me

you make it real easy


for this off the shelf bull shit,

when you're the one crying (my correct perspective, BTW) about not being able to get or even find parts for your car. Personally, I really think you would be much happier with a car that you can find a ton of parts for with 0% effort. Now this goes far beyond a Civic so you don't have to worry about being called a ricer. Camaros, Chargers, Mustangs, Evo's, STi, MINI, the list goes on. BTW, this is not a shot at you, although your perspective says it is


when your effing ass just sees something you like and your like "oh cool ill buy this" and then just hand your car to your mechanic and say "here put this on"...........

read response to quote 3 quotes above


yeah you must be the most respected person here

Don't have to be, IT'S AN INTERNET FORUM


you cant effing accept the fact that i have an opinion,

Opinions are cool, but you ram it down everybody's throat like everything you say about the LA1 is a fact, and you are proven worng 99% of the time, what the hell am I and everybody else supposed to do/think


my opinion that i do not prefer your favorite v6

Oh, I'm so sad now, -Alero- doesn't like the LA1, HOW WILL I GO ON WITH LIFE?!?!?


.........thats my effing opinion not yours

Keep it a fucking opinion, your opinions are not fucking facts, as much as you fucking think they fucking are. Did you fucking read fucking that fucking right. Fucking good. See I can say fuck many times and act like a tough guy too.


, and since you have a v6 as well you feel its your obligation to shit piss about it,

what, this comment makes little to no sense :blink:


and thats exactly why we cant keep consistant people around on this board cause

You could leave


its people like you that have to religiously pound someone for not having the exact opinion of yours

Your lesson of the day, direct from Wikipedia.org ;) since you didn't understand it eariler


An opinion is a person (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person)'s ideas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idea) and thoughts towards something. It is an assessment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assessment), judgment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment) or evaluation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaluation) of something. An opinion is not a fact (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact), because opinions are either not falsifiable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability), or the opinion has not been proven or verified. If it later becomes proven or verified, it is no longer an opinion, but a fact.



a fact is defined as something that is true, something that actually exists, or something that can be verified according to an established standard of evaluation.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact#cite_note-0)



..........god damn

OOOOOO I'm scared now

[01oldsgls]

i'll pass on the bourbon, how bout some jack!!!

kentucky versus tennessee... lol its all whiskey.



and im gonna have to agree, the fact that a mod is picking fights and making childish comments is sad, your older and a moderator, set an example. and if hes really so pathetic, why does he get to you so badly that he can provoke you into acting like such a douche?

[Cliff8928]

kentucky versus tennessee... lol its all whiskey.



and im gonna have to agree, the fact that a mod is picking fights and making childish comments is sad, your older and a moderator, set an example. and if hes really so pathetic, why does he get to you so badly that he can provoke you into acting like such a douche?

:stupid: Man, You totally read my mind on that one...

[01oldsgls]

mk the "im with stupid" avatar is confusing me. w/e.

[Redog]

I'm not picking a fight, I'm just having fun ;)

He's not getting to me at all, and I can be much worse, he's not really worth it

[Midgear]

either they had this entire argument planned out.. or someone needs to have a LARGE blunt object slammed up against their skull.

either way.. pie is the winner.

[-Alero-]

wow........

[Midgear]

wow........


that's what I say to pie.

[Redog]

meh...

[Midgear]

meh...


dude are you drunk? :lol:

lacking about 48 hours of sleep? dazed off a sleeping aid?

[-Alero-]

your fucking rediculas man, theres seriously something wrong with you.......you took this too far

[Redog]

dude are you drunk? :lol:

lacking about 48 hours of sleep? dazed off a sleeping aid?

Lacking the sleep. Working 12 hours a day will do that :ninja:

[Midgear]

Lacking the sleep. Working 12 hours a day will do that :ninja:

man.. go grab some shut eye. that's what im fixin to do.. I'm gonna be polishing my headlight lenses all day tomorrow :P

bastards will be crystal clear before I even think about putting them on the car