HID's and lights

[Exit9alero]

hey guys im looking for HID's for my 99 alero

im also interested in the glow gauges
and the neon gloe around the headlight
and im wondering if angel eyes were ever fabricated for aleros?

[antichrysler]

i wouldn't put HIDs on your alero without having projectors

[cherrington17]

gauges you can do yourself w/ leds. just need to know how to do a little soldering.

neons around the head lights can/will also be better with LED. I believe there is a "how-to" for that one.

angel eyes have been done... i think its always a custom done job, no-how to yet... but people around here know how to do them.

[billytheman1188]

i wouldn't put HIDs on your alero without having projectors

Why not? i did, and they work GREAT!!

go to oznium.com and order the HIDs exit9, i have 8000k and they look good, if you go 10000k or 12000k they will be very blue. You dont need to get projectors, the hids will look/work great for ya!:coolio:

[Alon Alero]

Yeah i got 8000k and they look great and blue enough.

If u get HID's which are bluer than 8000k it might not even look good for my opinion... i only wish i could change the color of my corners lamp from that stock yellow to white or blue or something but i dont think its legal over here anyways they look great especially when i trun on the fog lights... and i aint got projectors or anything like that as well...

Oh and what exatcly is "Angel eyes" ?

[MixtapeMessiah]

i wouldn't put HIDs on your alero without having projectors

I had hids on mine and I never had a problem, I kinda liked blinding everyone with my lights lol

Ill post pics of mine soon as the photobucket website comes back up from maintenance

[MixtapeMessiah]

Yeah i got 8000k and they look great and blue enough.

Oh and what exatcly is "Angel eyes" ?

Look at a lot of bmw m3's its a bulb thats round so it kinda looks like its an eye ya know?

[Alon Alero]

Oh yeah i know those!

they also glow in a speciall way...

[antichrysler]

well you can put HIDs in without projectors, but all it does is spew random light, so you really don't gain as much as you could... the problem is that the light isn't concentrated or focussed.... all you do is blind people.

If you guys are interested I can post some pics of he 50W HIDs I just put into projectors on my MZ3

[Exit9alero]

hey billy thanks alot you guys give me good feedback
i dont exactly know what projecters are so if u say i dont need them then screw em but yea the installation easy on these and how cud i fabricate angel eyes

[adam337]

a projector is kind of like a little box with a hole in it designed to Project the light into one spot instead of all over in the ditch in the sky everywhere this projects the light exactly where you need it.

[teflone]

well you can put HIDs in without projectors, but all it does is spew random light, so you really don't gain as much as you could... the problem is that the light isn't concentrated or focussed.... all you do is blind people.

If you guys are interested I can post some pics of he 50W HIDs I just put into projectors on my MZ3


50 watt ? you better be talking about a light bulb WITH a ballast

If you not, you just lost all faith I had in you.. lmao

[teflone]

YOU DONT NEED PROJECTORS

You picky ass people..

Who cares about the drivers that get pissed, they are jelous..

I have HIDs in mine.. NO projectors..

I love them.. BEST MONEY I HAVE SPENT ON MY CAR YET..

Why must everyone be so negative.... and for all you lame asses that sold your alero and hang around here to mock the alero.. fuck off already!!!

[strtrydr]

here is the difference ... Silverstars on the left & 35w 8000*K HIDs on the right
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e214/strtrydr/AleroMod%20Hosting/DSC00296.jpg

[antichrysler]

50 watt ? you better be talking about a light bulb WITH a ballast

If you not, you just lost all faith I had in you.. lmao

I imported them from Hong Kong. Standard HIDs are 35W, these ones are 50W, so yes I have two ballasts, one for each bulb. 6000K. Seriously, if you're trying to get HIDs for better vision (which is why I got them) you need to have projectors. Think of it this way, how bright is a flash light when you turn it on and take off the cap? It doesn't do shit, so yeah you can put a brighter bulb on it and make it brighter but unless it's focussed in one area why bother? You'll just be bright without really seeing anything.

The other thing too is don't go too high on the color, it's only for show. After about 8000K you actually LOSE visibility since you end up with a very blue/purple light. Remember, maximum visibility is at 4300-5000K.

[antichrysler]

YOU DONT NEED PROJECTORS

You picky ass people..

Who cares about the drivers that get pissed, they are jelous..

I have HIDs in mine.. NO projectors..

I love them.. BEST MONEY I HAVE SPENT ON MY CAR YET..

Why must everyone be so negative.... and for all you lame asses that sold your alero and hang around here to mock the alero.. eff off already!!!

chill out lol. It's not that they're jealous, it's that it's a safety risk. There's a reason you're supposed to turn off your high beams when you go past oncoming cars on the highway. It's so that you don't blind people. Who's mocking Aleros on this thread? We're talking about projector vs. no projector.

[Cliff8928]

Go tell GM, Honda, Ford, Mercedes, etc.. that they can't put HIDs on their cars unless they use projectors then...

[antichrysler]

They don't.

[MixtapeMessiah]

u can put hids in any car,for the like "spewing out" in ur words it just depends on how the headlight housing is, and most cars now a days have hids

[billytheman1188]

hey billy thanks alot you guys give me good feedback
i dont exactly know what projecters are so if u say i dont need them then screw em but yea the installation easy on these and how cud i fabricate angel eyes

No problem dude, angel eyes are cool, but i wouldnt go through all the trouble to do em.....

and i got HIDs to help make my car look nicer at night, and they are brighter than the stock bulbs. Im sure projectors would help a lot, but honestly.....i dont like the look of projectors in our cars, they look weird as fuckkkkk.

[antichrysler]

If you're gonna go through the trouble of doing angel eyes you might as well do projectors at the same time. Or if you're not gonna do projectors you might as well just get some silverstars, they'll give you the same visibility but they won't piss off everyone else on the road.

[alerocar01]

Go tell GM, Honda, Ford, Mercedes, etc.. that they can't put HIDs on their cars unless they use projectors then...
that is what i was thinking. projectors will help you see a little better but i seem to recall that are cars have good enough housings to have HIDs w/out projectors.

[pimpalero2003]

but if u still want HIDs go on ebay 120 shipped just look up HID conversion

[billytheman1188]

If you're gonna go through the trouble of doing angel eyes you might as well do projectors at the same time. Or if you're not gonna do projectors you might as well just get some silverstars, they'll give you the same visibility but they won't piss off everyone else on the road.


LOL, silverstars WILL NOT give you the same visibility, i had them before i got my HIDs and they werent as good as HIDs. and who cares if they piss people off...... they will get light in their face for 2 seconds then they will move on with life:lol: i dont think they give a shit

[cherrington17]

^you will if one of them jerks the wheel and hits you... :lol:

[pimpalero2003]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9004-9006-9007_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ007QQite mZ170133462646QQrdZ1
grabed first one

[billytheman1188]

that guys ebay rating is 97%.....not toooooo good, did you read some of the negative feedback? its not too bad, just some missing parts, but who knows if those HIDs are any good, let us know when you install them how they work....take pics

[billytheman1188]

^you will if one of them jerks the wheel and hits you... :lol:

haha, well that would suck:lol::lol:

[antichrysler]

^you will if one of them jerks the wheel and hits you... :lol:

lol finally... someone that thinks before they post
thank you

[teflone]

Comparing un-lensed HIDS to silverstars is like comparing Apples to dog shit..


My HID's are way brighter than stock ANYTHING..

Yes I know projectors are great, and would benifit..

But for the average joe, they dont have the time to MAKE a set of projectors..

If someone out there made projectors, I would have bought them..

Since they dont, I dont.. I dont have the time, yet I have the skill..


Your just being anal..

And yes, as stated many times..

The higher up in kelvin temp. the less bright..

Stock HID's are usually 4500k

The brightest are 2500k-3000,k but they throw VERY VERY VERY bright yellow light..

4500k lights are about 20 percent brighter than 8000k

Go drive your Mazda, stop bitching at us alero owners.. Your bitter about your alero.. WE GET IT..

[MixtapeMessiah]

Comparing un-lensed HIDS to silverstars is like comparing Apples to dog shit..

hahahahahaha classic dude.

Since were on the comparing game Im gonna say HIDS compared to halogen bulbs is like the a can of budweiser to camel piss, what would u drink?

I honestly loved my hella hids, when I sold my car I was so tempted to take it off but I didnt wanna have to rewire everything so I said fuck it

[Alon Alero]

Honestly i didn't even know about those projectors when I installed my HID's... When i read about it now yeah it seems good to me and im not happy with the fact i may blind people but hell its not that bad is it... its not like im driving in many roads with 1 course for each way without a separation anyway so i dont really care that much...

[MixtapeMessiah]

to make custom projectors for the ho is gonna be a shit load of money. Anderbra used to do it, I dont know anymore I havent talked to him in likea year.

[antichrysler]

Comparing un-lensed HIDS to silverstars is like comparing Apples to dog shit..


My HID's are way brighter than stock ANYTHING..

Yes I know projectors are great, and would benifit..

But for the average joe, they dont have the time to MAKE a set of projectors..

And yes, as stated many times..

The higher up in kelvin temp. the less bright..

Stock HID's are usually 4500k

The brightest are 2500k-3000,k but they throw VERY VERY VERY bright yellow light..

4500k lights are about 20 percent brighter than 8000k

Go drive your Mazda, stop bitching at us alero owners.. Your bitter about your alero.. WE GET IT..

Simmer down, who's even talking about the Mazda? I don't get what your fetish is with bringing that up. I'm just saying if you're gonna do the job do it right, don't half ass it. Whether it be on an Alero, Mazda, BMW, Kia it doesn't matter. Just do the job right the first time.

If you're cars not suited for a mod then don't do it.

[Alon Alero]

Simmer down, who's even talking about the Mazda? I don't get what your fetish is with bringing that up. I'm just saying if you're gonna do the job do it right, don't half ass it. Whether it be on an Alero, Mazda, BMW, Kia it doesn't matter. Just do the job right the first time.

If you're cars not suited for a mod then don't do it.


Yeah but I dont think the projector is like a MUST do for a HIDs mod and i think that what the guy was refering to is more like your general "bashing aleros" posts...

[MixtapeMessiah]

here we go again with the shit talking

[antichrysler]

^it's just senseless. Only thing I said is that if you're putting HIDs in you should put projectors.

[Gr1m]

wtf why do we need projectors? i have 10000k HIDS and they look just fine, spending 300$ on HIDS isnt half assing a mod, buying the ebay HID bulbs for $20 that burn your harness' is half assing a mod, please just stop with the nonsense, you have never done anything positive for this site, you talk about things you do not know and then you get upset when we tell you to keep it to yourself, you dont own an alero, all u do is bitch about your old one, why are on still on this site? the only post i still check is Eh_Nigmas post because he's the only one that is actually MODDING HIS ALERO ON ALEROMOD

[pimpalero2003]

um im moddong my alero hell u got my old ass end

[antichrysler]

wtf why do we need projectors? i have 10000k HIDS and they look just fine, spending 300$ on HIDS isnt half assing a mod, buying the ebay HID bulbs for $20 that burn your harness' is half assing a mod, please just stop with the nonsense, you have never done anything positive for this site, you talk about things you do not know and then you get upset when we tell you to keep it to yourself, you dont own an alero, all u do is bitch about your old one, why are on still on this site? the only post i still check is Eh_Nigmas post because he's the only one that is actually MODDING HIS ALERO ON ALEROMOD

Wow... that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It doesn't matter if you spend $300 or $300,000 if the job isn't done right. If you don't understand why you need projectors to properly aim HID bulbs then that just puts you in the same category as that punk kid with more money than brains.

[Gr1m]

zach, your not modding your alero, your "nigrigging" it, theres a difference, rofl.
and anti, why would i NEED projectors for my HIDs? mine seem to work fine without them

[pimpalero2003]

how am i rigging it

[pimpalero2003]

vinny if ur talking bout paint right now get off of it it will be painted for real sometime in the next 10 yrs

[Cliff8928]

Wow... that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. It doesn't matter if you spend $300 or $300,000 if the job isn't done right. If you don't understand why you need projectors to properly aim HID bulbs then that just puts you in the same category as that punk kid with more money than brains.


Ok, first off the HIDs in the Alero work just fine with their stock headlamps. The headlamps in the Alero pass E-Code certification for the beam pattern. Those headlamps tend to be quite acceptable with the HID conversion kits versus the DOT approved garbage that some cars get (I highly doubt the Grand Am has E-Code approval). Also, projectors or not it's just as illegal to put a different light source than originally intended for that headlamp.

I have 4300°K HIDs in my Alero and I've never had anyone flash their lights at me etc.. because they were affected by any glare or stray light.

[antichrysler]

zach, your not modding your alero, your "nigrigging" it, theres a difference, rofl.
and anti, why would i NEED projectors for my HIDs? mine seem to work fine without them

Because projectors are meant to focus the light to a certain area and with a set height so it doesn't spew all over the place and blind others. You can physically fit the bulbs in there and make your headlights really bright but they're not focussed. With halogen bulbs the light is aimed down, and the amount of light that spews from it is not enough to blind others at night. Since HIDs are brighter they need to be more focussed so you only light up the road and not the drivers in the oncoming lane.

When you guys are putting HIDs in your car and you get more visibility, you're realistically only taking advantage of about 25% of the difference between HID to Halogen. Which is why I say it's a half ass mod. There have been other members that have put projectors in their car.

[Cliff8928]

At least in the HID bulbs that I have used, they are precisely aimed so that the HID capsule is in the same exact place as the halogen filament. You can still have badly focused projectors.

[Gr1m]

There have been other members that have put projectors in their car.
others, who? marc and anderbra? gratz

[adam337]

well anti hows about you hook all of aleromod.com up with some projectors. And also YOU take apart our assemblies and put them in and Aim them correctly.?

[Gr1m]

how about he just leaves the site....that sounds like a better idea to me

[Alon Alero]

Some of the stuff he is saying are true, I did notice that the light is not very focused and yeah rarely people blind me back when they see the HID's so yeah he has a point there but they work pretty much o.k...

[antichrysler]

well anti hows about you hook all of aleromod.com up with some projectors. And also YOU take apart our assemblies and put them in and Aim them correctly.?

Isn't the whole point of this site to be a DIY and for others to offer advice? Majority of you have already taken apart your assemblies to clear your corners, why not jerry rig some projectors in there? That's what I was planning on doing to my Alero.

[antichrysler]

others, who? marc and anderbra? gratz

for someone who claims to be a car genius you should take the initiative and help others with the mod and lead by example by doing it on your car. Instead of acting like a 6 year old that had their lollipop taken away.

[Silentalero]

yea but trust me, the projector makes the kit look 100x better. Go projector and snag some hids off oznium. At ASS i had the 8k kit in from him. If you dont do projectors they will work just fine. My acura has the HID's now and i dont get flashed. Just aim your headlight down a bit if its that big of a concern.

[teflone]

well anti hows about you hook all of aleromod.com up with some projectors. And also YOU take apart our assemblies and put them in and Aim them correctly.?



Now thats classic..

Im not saying projectors are crap.. it just not needed terribly..

And since it is sooo hard to put in DIY projectors.. I say why bother..

You are correct, projectors would make a big diff. and would focus it where you need it more..

But your being anal..

I would not argue with you if we all had a thousand different headlight enclosures with projectors in it.. like civics do..

But since its a bitch to make them, (and time consuming, and expensive)

I say baahhh.. the hell with it untill I have the time to make some..

The are perfectly acceptable reflecting.. and are much better than ANY halogen could be ever...

But telling everyone they are "half assing" it.. come on..

We own aleros.. we have to sacrifice a little because there is almost no aftermarket for it.. Understand ?

Dont belittle us because you have moved on to a better car..

ENCOURAGE US.. be a positive influence..

[billytheman1188]

yea but trust me, the projector makes the kit look 100x better. Go projector and snag some hids off oznium. At ASS i had the 8k kit in from him. If you dont do projectors they will work just fine. My acura has the HID's now and i dont get flashed. Just aim your headlight down a bit if its that big of a concern.

lmfao silent, you avatar STILL cracks me up:lol:

[antichrysler]

^ agreed lol

[Silentalero]

lol its an all time classic...its true

[Alon Alero]

Hey teflone:

I agree with everything u said except the fact that mazda 3 is a better car, lol.

Sorry, i might just be a hater but its not comfotable its stiff as hell and its just too popular here (about half of the country have mazda 3, its the most common car here because thats what people get from work).

Sorry i just had to say this.

[billytheman1188]

Hey teflone:

I agree with everything u said except the fact that mazda 3 is a better car, lol.

Sorry, i might just be a hater but its not comfotable its stiff as hell and its just too popular here (about half of the country have mazda 3, its the most common car here because thats what people get from work).

Sorry i just had to say this.

I agree with you, im not a big fan of the mazda3s.

and sorry? its a public forum, you can say whatever you want:lol:

[teflone]

Hey teflone:

I agree with everything u said except the fact that mazda 3 is a better car, lol.

Sorry, i might just be a hater but its not comfotable its stiff as hell and its just too popular here (about half of the country have mazda 3, its the most common car here because thats what people get from work).

Sorry i just had to say this.


actually, I was being nice.. I hate them as well... lmao.. you busted me..

[antichrysler]

lol that's why you're on an alero forum and not a mazda forum :p

i personally don't hate either car, the alero's are a great car and for what you pay for em they can't be beat... the mazdas got it's own strengths and weaknesses and that's why there's more than one model of car... it's all about what you like

in response to alon, it's the exact opposite here in north america, and mostly in canada. Here you drive down 6 blocks and you've seen atleast 6-7 aleros but maybe 1 mazda 3. It's an interesting shift... i think part of the reason we have so many aleros in SK is because as my car dealer neighbour said "they're a cash cow" you buy em for $5000-$6000 and sell em for $8000-$9000 b/c people fall in love with all the luxury features... where as you buy a cavalier for the same price and sell it for $6000-$7000 because they don't have the luxury to em

[nickbain]

hmmmm...projectors in an Alero....might look good..does anyone know where I might find a pic of a car with them (i know there is only a couple cars out there) or anyone know how one would go about making them?

Also to all the people who think that blinding an oncomeing driver is ok or whatever......eff you! When you blind someone at night it is not a very good thing and the oncoming driver can't see beyond you car. With my old Alero I hit a deer because some ahole didn't dim his highs and I couldn't see the deer on the road untill I was past him but by that time it was too late.

[Gr1m]

if you had HIDs you would have seen the deer, gg

[antichrysler]

hmmmm...projectors in an Alero....might look good..does anyone know where I might find a pic of a car with them (i know there is only a couple cars out there) or anyone know how one would go about making them?

Also to all the people who think that blinding an oncomeing driver is ok or whatever......eff you! When you blind someone at night it is not a very good thing and the oncoming driver can't see beyond you car. With my old Alero I hit a deer because some ahole didn't dim his highs and I couldn't see the deer on the road untill I was past him but by that time it was too late.

I think alot of the people on here are making custom kits. But I don't think they're that hard to do if you take apart the lamp housing yourself.

Sorry to hear bout crashing your Alero. We've lost a few vehicles in the family because of ass holes that don't dim their lights. Just ignore Gr1m he doesn't know what he's talking about, I think he missed his afternoon nap and burping.

[Gr1m]

no i think i left my car in first gear and bitched and whined about it afterwards, oh wait that wasnt me

[steve-o]

I know of one car off the top of my head that comes factory with HIDs without projecters, the Acura CSX with premium package (only available in Canada).

[antichrysler]

^Are you sure about that one? I'm pretty sure it has projectors

[Exit9alero]

guys great feeed back im deff going to look into buyin the hids im gonna go for the 6000k look

[steve-o]

^Are you sure about that one? I'm pretty sure it has projectors

yep, my buddy got one.

This is not his car, but its shows you the headlight setup.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/AcuraCSX.JPG/800px-AcuraCSX.JPG

[billytheman1188]

just to let you people know, ive NEVER had people flash their lights at me cause my headlights were too bright.

[antichrysler]

Ahh okay, perhaps I was wrong then. Unless those are just ones that immitate the HID look. I"ll look in to it a bit more on my break.

Exit9Alero did you want a picture of 6000K HIDs? That's what I just put in my car last week and they work amazing

[steve-o]

dude its a Acura, nothing imitating about them.:p But if your really don't beleive me, go to Acura.ca. But trust me, I've seen them first hand plently of times!

[antichrysler]

lol well no i'm not saying i don't believe you... i just find it weird that acura would do something so off

[billytheman1188]

lol well no i'm not saying i don't believe you... i just find it weird that acura would do something so off

so we arent the only ones putting HIDs in without projectors, i guess acura is half assing too, huh?:lol:

[antichrysler]

lol the difference is theyr'e japanese... they're alla bout making things smaller and more efficient... you're not :p

[Exit9alero]

sure bro a pic would be nice


hey guys what would recomend for the daytime runnig lights i wanna do em all at once so the high beam what would b the best brightness and would look good?

[antichrysler]

one thing i'm not sure about with the aleros is the highbeam DRLs if they use less power or it's a pulsing signal... if it's a pulsing signal HIDs will be a bitch to install

[steve-o]

here is a pic of my car with 6000K:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/steveoz24/Alero/hids6000.jpg

Here is a pic with 8000k:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/steveoz24/HID2.jpg

[teflone]

Me like !!!

I like 6000k.. mine look close to purple/red in daytime.. mine are 8's

I should go for a whiter look..

[Cliff8928]

one thing i'm not sure about with the aleros is the highbeam DRLs if they use less power or it's a pulsing signal... if it's a pulsing signal HIDs will be a bitch to install

They use a resistor.

[antichrysler]

Ahh okay, so if you HID's your highbeams you may not have enough voltage to run the ballast

[MixtapeMessiah]

my hids were brighter than my high beams ;)