Cosmo Racing

[nhartwell]

Anyone have any input on Cosmo Racing Short Throw Shifters and WAI?

I was thinking I could return the B&M and buy these two things...

[nhartwell]

together, those two things are cheaper than the B&M lol. And I get twice the performance... Same either way with the throw % and an extra few HP with a better Ram Air than my custom WAI.

[Spilner521]

Keep the B&M. It's probably the best short shifter you can buy. No point in getting rid of a high quality part just to get another one of lower quality. Just get the new intake in addition to the B&M.

[nhartwell]

Keep the B&M. It's probably the best short shifter you can buy. No point in getting rid of a high quality part just to get another one of lower quality. Just get the new intake in addition to the B&M.

how do u figure it is higher quality?

Same milling, same material.. different name.. Size is the same..

[nhartwell]

the only thing that can be different is the box, instructions, and customer service..

[nhartwell]

oh, and maybe mounting materials

[ptrudel]

the cosmo isnt a short shifter!!!!! i bought one, looks awesome and all, but all it is is a shorter handle, not a shorter throw..that ebay thing is a POS

[nhartwell]

LAF^

The center ball join is like a fulcrum. And the shorter the handle is from the end to this ball join, the shorter the throws will be. This is a true short throw shifter. Hence all that makes a short throw is a shorter handle. There is no other type... This is the same as the B&M. There is no way if the handle is shorter, the throws are not shorter... Short throw is truly meant for ergonomics, not really performance...

[nhartwell]

hence, if u cut ur standard shifter, it makes it a short throw...

[nhartwell]

Let me show u...

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r152/nhartwell/fulcrumshortthrow.jpg

[nhartwell]

and if the handle is shorter, than that means between the top and central joint, because the joint cannot be moved for mounting reasons

So basically u are saying the B&M isn't a true short shifter... Because it works the same way and is the exact same size. Throws will not feel more than about 10% shorter, but u have to do the math with the ratio of ur own throw compared to the base. both ends. That is how they come up with their # of 30some percent.

[ptrudel]

isnt the B&M a shorter distance between the2 "balls"(sorry for the lack of grammar, i've been workin in fumes for 8hours)

[natedawg9640]

how bout if you are sold on the stupid thing... buy it... stop asking people about it so you can argue with them.

[nhartwell]

negative, they cannot be different. Otherwise u would have to modify the mounting or the cable lengths.

if u shortened the distance between the balls, it would make for larger throw distances for the human, and little distances for the bottom. Meaning that would be a increased throw shifter haha.

no worries about the grammer. fumes from what?

[nhartwell]

how bout if you are sold on the stupid thing... buy it... stop asking people about it so you can argue with them.

not arguing with them. I'm teaching...

now GTFO of the 2.4 threads...

[natedawg9640]

now GTFO of the 2.4 threads...


why can't i be on the 2.4 threads?

hey... weren't you the genious teaching everyone that the earth doesn't have any resources in it in the "moon" thread?

[nhartwell]

yes i was, why? did u learn something? :p

[nhartwell]

why can't i be on the 2.4 threads?

Because.. I said so.. :jk:

[natedawg9640]

yes i was, why? did u learn something? :p


actually it did send my looking for something to prove you wrong... and i definately found it... oh... and i have a 2.4 also

[ptrudel]

fumes from the engine swap i'm workin on on my 2.4...

[nhartwell]

actually it did send my looking for something to prove you wrong... and i definately found it... oh... and i have a 2.4 also

u have proved me wrong on what? lol...

[Cliff8928]

If you want to have an even shorter throw, you can change the bracket that the shift cables attach to on the transmission.

[natedawg9640]

u have proved me wrong on what? lol...


http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15730&page=2&highlight=moon

[nhartwell]

not proven wrong.. because the moon orbits the earth faster, so the gravitational pull from the moon would unbalance the end of the elevator.

[ptrudel]

If you want to have an even shorter throw, you can change the bracket that the shift cables attach to on the transmission.

change it how or with what? i have everything apart so it'd be easy to do right now

[nhartwell]

change it how or with what? i have everything apart so it'd be easy to do right now

Yes, do this with ur cosmo racing short throw, and u will notice an even greater shorter throw, and will be easier.

[ptrudel]

yeah but what do you modify?

[Alero_1986]

I ordered the Short Shifter and the short RAM last Saturday, they had informed me that the product would not be available until Today, and it shouldn't take long to ship.. so I'll post a review(with photos) when it arrives

[nhartwell]

Good Good.

I ordered these two items, along with a netami CF steering wheel and netami quick release steering wheel hub

[nhartwell]

ill post my reviews also

[Cliff8928]

change it how or with what? i have everything apart so it'd be easy to do right now

This one is REALLY expensive...

http://www.regal-shop.co.uk/asps/ShowDetails.asp?id=3987

This one's cheaper, but only has one part..

http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2024

Here's a page showing it being installed on a VX220.

http://www.verboom.net/projects/speedster/20041002/index.html

Here's a PDF showing it being installed on a MK4 Astra.

http://www.z22se.co.uk/guides/quick_shift_kit_how_to.pdf

[Alero_1986]

..my order arrived yesterday, and I finish installing the parts today. right away, I'm really enjoying the gains from the Cosmo WAI.
I have mixed feelings about the cosmo short shifter, and it's compatibility with the alero.. overall they're both very solid well made parts. Excellent value for the price!

[Alero_1986]

The Short Shifter makes the shifting plenty short, but with length you also lose leverage, making gearshifts slightly stiffer.. and the Getrags were not the smoothest shifting tranny's to begin with.. so the overall benefit is minimal, but overall it is a very solid clean looking part.
...Also the shifter was not compatible with the key lock-out, so I ended up just taking it off.
The plastic bushing that came with the shifter was too big, and I ended up removing the bushing from the stock shifter.. cosmo failed to include a clip with the blue aluminum pin included. The instructions said that you would re use the clip from the original part, which was not available. These parts are easy to find though, so it was not a huge deal

[nhartwell]

yea, very simple